You can use Hirens Boot CD. Newer versions have a free alternative to Norton Ghost, older versions have the real Norton Ghost (though it is shareware). Directions on their site how to make the "boot cd" a bootable usb stick. Very simple, only takes a few clicks with the right software (all explained in the link).

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-------------------------------------- RE: Dual boot XP Pro and Norton Ghost cjcoyle (MIS)(OP)17 Nov 06 17:32First of all, thank you all very much for taking the time to help me out. Rick I really think you have a great setup there and I will implement that as much as I can. I've built a universal ghost boot CD and I use the menuitem option in the config.sys to select the proper network card when ghosting via the network. The testbed pc's are going to be ghosted from the second partition, so I will store and execute the images from the HDD.

The only issue now is, how do I automate the reboot and force ghost to execute?


Thanks guys!

-Chris RE: Dual boot XP Pro and Norton Ghost Rick998 (IS/IT--Management)18 Nov 06 06:49Make sure the Ghost executable is stored in the same partition as the source image file then add a menuitem to the CD's boot menu to change to the partition.


Remember that if the first partition has been formatted as NTFS then any DOS boot CD won't recognise the partition. As a result the CD menuitem will have to change to C:.


If, however, both partitions have been formatted as FAT32 then the CD menuitem will need to change to D: then run the Ghost executable with the following switches:


CODEghost -clone,mode=pload,src=d:\fixdrive.gho:1,dst=1:1 -rb -sure

This will avoid you having to include this in a 'fixme.bat' file. Alternatively, include a 'fixme.bat' file in the second partition and change the CD menuitem to point to the second partition and run the batch file.


The Ghost switches mean:

-clone,mode=pload = load partition from image file

src=d:\fixdrive.gho:1 = use first partition in an image file called 'fixdrive.gho' stored in root of D: as the source image file

dst=1:1 = use partition 1 of disk 1 as the destination

-rb = reboot automatically afterwards

-sure = don't ask for confirmation, just do it.


Again, you will have to adjust the 'src=' switch for the location of the source file from D: to C: depending on whether the DOS boot CD recognises the partition.


Note that you will can eject the CD as soon as Ghost starts, otherwise when you come back the PC may be sat waiting at the CD boot menu again.


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Also, could you elaborate what is the steps after booting from a bootable CD created from Nortion Ghost? How does that apply to my situation for restore my hard drive in case of the primary drive failure?

Also, could you elaborate what is the steps after booting from a

bootable CD created from Nortion Ghost? How does that apply to my

situation for restore my hard drive in case of the primary drive

failure?

Alex_Ewrote:

Cloning a bootable HDD to anothe bootable HDD, when both are

connected to the same computer is quite safe.

If you have a backup cloned copy of your primary HDD on your

external drive and want to clone it back to the primary, simply

either replace or reformat the primary drive and then using Norton

Ghost boot disk clone the external HDD to the new or re-fomatted

primary HDD.

Ghost image backups are very handy for doing regular backups of a

smaller HDD to a large HDD, as a number of backups can be fitted on

one drive, with the oldest being deleted to allow for the newest

backup when required, to ensure a backup history is maintained.

The ideal situation, in my opinion, is to also maintain two

identical primary HDD's, with regular cloned backups, then if the

primary one in the computer fails, it can be physically replaced

with the spare, with guaranted success and minimal downtime.

In my case I use a removal drive cage (very cheap to buy) and can

slip the spare drive in and out whenever needed. I'm amazed at the

number of people who buy expensive external HDD setups instead of

using the very cheap and effective method of having as many

external HDD's as they like, as extra slip out cases can be

purchased, with a single internal cage.

The older removable drive cages required a computer re-boot but

there are models now that allow hot swapping.

There is one reason at least: when the boot CD/floppy doesn't recognize the external/USB/Firewire drive. This is exactly my case. I have the original norton ghost boot CD but unfortunately it just recognize the drive on which i have several partitions C:, D:, ... So i backup my system C: on the other partition D: but the problem is when i have a hardware problem on this drive, i'll also lose my image backup which is on D: on the SAME drive!

I use norton ghost 9.0 which do the backup of C: while the system is running. In other words, i don't need to go to DOS to backup. It does the job right since i tested it several times. When backup is finished (under running XP), i boot with the norton boot CD which takes me to a norton "OS" with basic windows and asks me what to restore. The problem is that it shows me only one disk and not any other. So i have to store my backup on the same disk e.g. on D:

Anyway, i feel confident to boot from CD rather than from floppy. The problem as i said , is that it seems this boot CD (which is the original one from norton) doesn't recognize my other hard disk drives probably because of lack of the right drivers.

There is one reason at least: when the boot CD/floppy doesn't

recognize the external/USB/Firewire drive. This is exactly my case.

I have the original norton ghost boot CD but unfortunately it just

recognize the drive on which i have several partitions C:, D:, ...

You obviously did not realize it but -- you just described your problem when you indicated you were "using the original Norton ghost boot CD". The original CD may NOT have the support for USB , Firewire' and the Hardware (and associated Drivers, etc) you have on your computer.

i'll not suggest you to upgrade to ghost 9.0 since IMHO if your version does what you want there is no reason to change anything (as i'll not upgrade to ghost 10.0 myself). However i'd like to let you know, based on some reviews about different versions of ghost (that i found on google but i'm not able to tell you where) that the version 9.0 is a huge improvment. For example it can do a warm backup while XP is running. Personally i don't think this is enough reason to upgrade but i believe there are other reasons maybe worth a look (i don't remember what).

Reading again the manual of 9.0, it says: in order to be able to restore (when under the original -and only one- ghost boot CD environment) from an external (e.g. USB HDD) device not recognized by the boot CD, when seeing the choice for booting on CD, one has to push F6 and then the system asks for other drivers and the user must provide them.

This is in theory the way ghost 9.0 takes care of devices not recognized by the original -and only- boot CD. However i have not tested it yet for the following reasons (i'll give it a try in the following days because i know there is no risk to do it):

in 2004 when ghost 9.0 was released, they should have include at least USB drivers in the CD, provided they are unique and not dependent on mother boards (if they are different on each mother board, then i can understand). I have not yet tested an external USB hard disk but in case it is not recognized, i really don't know where to get the USB drivers. In hardware management of XP, i have a long list of USB devices (i guess each corresponding to a port) that mostly point to the same two drivers in windows/system directory. Are these the ones i have to provide to ghost boot CD and how ?

i have two internal HDD: a Maxtor with C: and D: and a Western Digital with just one partition (I:). Since my WD is not recognized by ghost, as i said earlier, i backup C: on D: (in addition to DVDs). But where in the world can i find a driver for my WD disk!!! when buying HDD, there is no driver delivered, just the HDD in a plastic bag. And i can understand that because the STANDARD windows drivers dealing with IDE, SATA, etc. should take care of these HDD. And this is confirmed when i ask the XP system management to detail me the drivers for HDD. They all point to the same two drivers 0852c4b9a8

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