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The issue became so heated that the International Bible Society (now Biblica) decided that it was not in the best interest of the translation to continue and chose not to publish the revisions. In the United States, Zondervan would keep printing the 1984 edition of the NIV.

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Thanks for the comment! Agreed about the usefulness of an audio Bible! Especially considering Scripture initially would have been *heard* more than *read*. Helps us to get a feel of the flow using a different sense.

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At the time, I made my complaints known to Dr. [Earl] Radmacher who proposed a meeting with Mr. Gothard in Portland. Gothard subsequently told Radmacher that the two of them might meet together, but that he had no interest in meeting with me to discuss these issues. I am setting these issues down on paper at this time at the request of Dr. Radmacher for a meeting that he will be having with Mr. Gothard on May 31, 1984.

it is so sad that many have given up totally on believing god and the bible because of gothard's misinterpretations, etc. . I hope and pray all those who have done so can find their way back to Him -- btw, think of it like this...would anyone throw out all their plumbing, toilets, sinks, faucets, etc because one plumber who had no idea what he was doing caused a flood in your house?

Micah, two days after your question, the second article by Dr Allen was posted. Quote:

"In 1984 the issues of concern that many of us in Oregon had concerning the Seminar led to a new paper, the one cited in the article by Veinot and Henzel. This paper, and the concerns of others, led many churches in the Pacific Northwest, including my own, to withdraw all active support for the Gothard ministries.6"

"6. In our church (Gateway Baptist Church, Portland, Oregon) as in many others, the decision was made not to make a public announcement of the dropping of support. Since we knew that many in our church had come to faith through the Seminar, or had received significant spiritual direction through it, we believed we would only cause confusion by attacking the Seminar directly. Instead, we decided no longer to send buses, no longer to buy block tickets, and no longer to make any announcements whatever about the Seminars."

So, it turns out (unless I misunderstand) that 30 years ago even in Dr Allen's church it was not so clear to the members of his church of "a public announcement of the dropping of support." Of course with perfect 20/20 hindsight Dr Allen perhaps could have done things different. It would be interesting to have the total number of "issues of Concern" letters that were sent out. Evidently (unless I misunderstand) his own church members did not get a copy.

I don't know anything about 8 callings or dimensions of Bill and I don't want to know. It was been brought up here, more than once, that Bill Gothard did not like CS Lewis. Any connection between Bill and CS Lewis is only by you. The patheos article was about "men without chest" quote that has been used by many to claim Lewis supports a macho man type of masculinity as promoted by the likes of TGC crowd etc. What he was saying and you are blowing off is that the Lewis quote from "Abolition of Man" was not at all about macho man masculinity. But misquoting either Lewis or Bible seems to be part and parcel with people like Bill Gothard. Maybe you see nothing wrong with this, but it ends up making the Bible say things it really doesn't. Just look at the recent article by Bill about climate change. One doesn't defeat faulty science with faulty bible quoting and much of it painted God as using the weather to smack people down and punish them. Pretty sad timing on this considering Hurricane Ian and what just happen in your State of Florida.

"Any thoughts on Jinger's new book?"

I am very proud of her for writting this book. I watched a couple of interviews she gave about the book and in which she talked about the contents. She is very articulate and communicates very well the anxiety and damage caused by Bill Gothard's teachings.

It sounds like this was a very difficult book for her to write, but felt that it was important. She sounds like she is on firm ground now, with a solid understanding of the paralyzing damage that legalism can cause.

She speaks about how the rules that her family followed were not biblical, but the ideas of one man, Bill Gothard.

Have you read the book Rob? What are your thoughts? I am more of a audio book person and will try to get an audio copy when I can.

I was considering make a post on that other site with the Gothard fans, but they are so sick over there. As one would expect, they are already doing their best to throw her under the bus, as they did with all of the women who came forward sharing how Bill harassed them.

It seems that Recovering Grace is not very active anymore, but perhaps her book will spur some commentary once again. Perhaps everyone has gone to FB or something, but I don't do FB, so I'm not sure.

Maybe it is quieted down so much because Bill has been deposed from IBLP and is fading away. But, there are still many thousands who are trapped in the man made rules that he taught, not realizing that they are from a man and not from God.

So, I think that there is still a role that RG can play. I do hope that they at least do an article about her book with links to where people can purchase it.

It appears that from Jinger's Instagram bio there is a link to get the book, and I know that it is also on Amazon. I would post a link, but I have noticed that lately any links posted on RG comments causes the comment to never get posted for some reason, so I won't.

I did not read the book but just the synopsis about how growing up under gothard that she was always in fear of disobeying god --that is exactly what gothardism did to me

I was able to write to her on her fb site to let her know how happy i was for her getting out of legalism.

I also wrote to whoever authors this site that they should write a commentary review on Jinger's book and how the stories here are very similar to her experience.

since she is so high profile i think it is an opportunity to let the religious legalistic patriarchal believers know that gothardism and others who spread similar teachings ARE NOT GOD'S DESIGN AND WILL FOR THE CHURCH!!!!!!!!

It has been 12 years since I found this site and it has launched me into a voyage of learning God's true will for my life as I did research and study of patriarchy in the church and its effects and damage....

Someone else wrote this and I added what is in the parenthesis--- and it makes a really important point----...."Patriarchy, (like camels, deserts, sheep and shepherds, Romans in togas) is part of the backdrop of the bible, not the point of it!!!"--yet men have turned patriarhcy into an oppressive and abusive theology, with all its rules, laws, commands, all aimed at women!!!!!!!!! Men only have 2 rules--lead and breed!

David,

I have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of defending your views which are copied from an extremist like Pat Buchanan about WW II which have been condemned roundly by a lot of people as pro-Hitler and antisemitic, you go off on a tangent about movies of which I only generally mentioned. Pat Buchanan is to history like Bill Gothard is to bible study. Neither one should be doing it. Maybe it shows what kind of mind set gravitates to the likes of Pat Buchanan and Bill Gothard and that picture is not a healthy one. 17dc91bb1f