March 2024
The influences are too numerous to list here, but those most directly related to this men’s group are the writings of Mark Manson and Dr. Robert Glover. These authors and their writings serve this group as introductory text, foundation, and as a framework for personal development.
This *Men’s Group supports and empowers men with a space to be real about their current experiences, their long term vision for their best selves, and their road map for getting there.
We keep individual shares in the group (confidential).
We don’t push advice, we offer specific feedback (no gurus).
We rotate facilitation** of the group (if one man can do it so can another man).
We value the collective space over any individual (including the facilitator).
We balance individual responsibility with leaving no man behind (supporting not enabling).
We ask for what we are looking for while not being attached to specific outcomes (not attached to outcomes).
To grow, connect, and aim up we encourage:
Authenticity
Vulnerability
Accountability
Courage
Bias towards action
A focus on agency and personal responsibility
We discourage:
Habitual pornography usage
Habitual strip club patronage
Engagement in prostitution
Misogyny
Regular and excessive alcohol and/or street drug consumption
A focus on external or disempowering factors
Appendix:
In practice we focus on MVPS or:
Male friendships
Vigorous Exercise
Passion
Scary Shit
As well as GLIFE:
Grateful
Looking forward to
Interested in
Funny moments
Enjoying
$ Transparency regarding the monetary considerations and compensation:
I, Mean Joe, have a commitment to keep the groups free or extremely low cost as well as a goal to “break even” financially or even produce a profit through this group and by the awareness that the Men’s Group brings to my mentoring practice, services, and products.
*"Men’s group” while not our official name is one description. The Tuesday Night Group, Men’s Group, Men’s group & community inspired by Mark Manson, Mean Men Group, and Meaningful Mentorship group are all names that I’ve used for this group at different points. One day there may be a single official name for the group, but until then “Men’s group” will do for this document.
**In part to keep keep the group the higher priority over any individual, the Men’s Group has built in the idea of rotating facilitation into the foundation. When we have a regularly attended meeting with a consistent core, members who have been consistently attending will be invited to facilitate the group, share a related topic of shared or related interest, and offer feedback to shares before the other group members.
Update March 2024
I, Mean Joe, and the group expects you to have:
An openness and curiosity about the values, books, & approach this group takes to personal development
This may include
Reading one or more books the group is based on
Asking guys in group or individually about what they have gotten out of the group
Focusing on listening to other members shares without offering feedback in the first number of weeks (two ears & one mouth)
New members may be removed from the WhatsApp after 4-8 weeks if they do not demonstrate the above
Continuing membership is not a guarantee and non-active members and members running counter to the groups mission statement or values will be removed on a regular basis
Note as of December 2025: This group is a promotion-free space. Please do not share or advertise coaching, programs, retreats, or other services. Our goal is to keep the focus on the group and its framework & shared values
Update March 2024
I’d encourage you to:
Read 1 or 2 max 3 and then spend your energy putting the elements into practice
Do not to feel like you have to read all these - rather be biased towards action
Core:
"No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover
“Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck” by Mark Manson
Core related to dating:
“Dating Essentials for Men” by Dr. Robert Glover
Note that the great cake of a life comes out of this book - although I changed some words to make an acronym
“Models: Attract Women Through Honesty” by Mark Mason
Extended:
“Love is not Enough” by Mark Manson only through Audible (super good)
“Everything Is Fucked: A Book About Hope” by Mark Manson
“Dating Essentials for Men FAQ” by Dr. Robert Glover
I’ve read all these book multiple times but you may resonate with some more than others. Take what is useful and leave the rest.
You can see more authors that have inspired this group at meanmentoring.com
Update March 2024
A note to new members who may be familiar with Red Pill and PUA ideologies:
First this group is not solely focused on dating and romantic relationships. We do talk about relationships of all kinds: professional, familial, friendships, and yes those related to dating and romance as all these relationships are important to nearly all the men in the group at one time or another. See the mission statement and "In practice" section above.
The POV of this group is that Redpill and PUA ideologies are the “dark arts” or “black magic” for men
Specifically, the adoption of the world view and related practices of these ideologies may indeed get “results,” but the results are only a subset of what men actually want and need to be a healthy member of society
Additionally, we see the world view Redpill and PUA communities offer is actually damaging, disempowering, ultimately counter productive to individuals and relations between men and women
Exposure to these ideologies doesn’t mean you can’t attend, but promotion of the these ideologies or ideologies akin to them will result in removal of the group
Specific aspects that run at odds with this group
Flattening men and women’s experiences (over generalizing)
Focuses on elements individuals can’t control (height, looks, etc)
Victim mindset
Note that does not mean that certain things from these communities are not “true”
Not everything that is true is helpful and knowing some truth does not mean knowing all truth
In short, if you are looking to aim up from these ideologies or out grow them this group may be a good fit and if you are unwilling to engage with the source material that this group is based upon then.. as shocking as it may be you won’t be a good fit for the group
Better yet, see us in person!
https://www.meetup.com/mens-group/ has the most up to date information
Meaningful Mentorship
Meaningfulmentorshipllc@gmail.com
669 223 8550 (Text only - abuse it and I'll block you; my boundaries are on point 😉)