this was ,without a doubt ,one of the best years for female actresses . kate was amazing but i think bette's peformance is more well -known nowadays . kate should have won her oscars for "alice adams " ," the philadelphia story " and the lion in the winter .

anne: Nominatably hammy, sure, but I doubt that winning would have been a choice most could have gotten behind, especially with more than 50 years of hindsight. I'd probably say on a symbolic level, it becomes a heat between Hepburn and Bancroft, with a "hindsight" weighted lean toward Hepburn, so Bancroft can more easily win for The Graduate.

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That said, I still think this should have been Kate's Oscar. Bancroft's performance was as complex but not as daring. Davis's was as daring but not as complex. Page and Remick were touching but not as tragic.

This is an amazing performance in a thoroughly downbeat but worthwhile film and the one of her losing performances that I felt should have been a winner. As you said Anne Marie it is so unlike her other work that the challenge she met deserved the prize.

As strong as she is her performance is bolstered by being surrounded by award worthy co-stars none of whom incredibly were Oscar nominated especially considering all won a collective best actor prize at the Cannes Film Festival that year. Perhaps that's what held them back each could have been considered a lead so each siphoned votes from the other. Nowadays there would be category fraud for at least one if not both the sons being placed in supporting.

If we're rewriting history I'll play! This was a rich year in the Best Actress race with all the woman actually deserving of the win. I think Kate should have won here enabling Anne Bancroft to pick up her deserved award for The Graduate in '67. An even swap! Though as great as Anne was as Mrs. Robinson I think her performance in The Pumpkin Eater is even better.

I have just recently watched this movie and nothing could have prepared me for what Hepburn accomplishes. It is without a doubt one of the best performances ever committed to film. I saw myself going back so many times just so I could see again the changes (as you mentioned) and the moments that caught me off-guard (one of the most shocking being the scene you mentioned when she rolls onto the floor). Truly heartbreaking and real.

Okay, I am a mega-Bette Davis fan, but to me she was the weak link in this category. The nomination should have gone to Patty Duke in The Miracle Worker or Jeanne Moreau in Jules et Jim. And of the five nominees, as great as Hepburn was in this film, I would have given the Oscar to Lee Remick for her heartbreaking performance in Days of Wine and Roses. What an underrated, almost forgotten talent.

Kate by a mile, I think it's her best performance (this or "The Lion in Winter"). The film should have also hogged the Best Supporting Actor category, though I can't pick a favorite of them (but by-golly Dean Stockwell was beautiful back then)

Anne then could justly take away Kate's make-up Oscar five years later; and Bette is out of the running because nobody - ABSOLUTELY NOBODY - out-camps Joan Crawford.

I agree with Paul that Lee Remick's performance in Days was perhaps the best of her short career and Oscar deserving. And Joel, while I agree that Pumpkin Eater has been ignored in Bancroft's filmography, for me, there was never an actress so identified as Bancroft as Annie Sullivan. Her speech about growing up with her brother Jimmie, and the rats and the accurate Irish accent without pity and more self reliance than anger in her voice, the perfect pitch of emotions, deserved the Oscar in a year where each nomination was perhaps the best role each actress ever had on film.

I remember watching this when I was around 15 years old, and being totally gobsmacked by the master class of acting that is " A Long Days Journey Into Night". I include all the actors in this exceptional film. It was my introduction to Ralph Richardson and Jason Robards.

Hepburn's performance rocked me, precisely because of it's vulnerability. She was magnificently revealing physically and emotionally. Unfortunately the darkness of the script means this film isn't as widely seen by viewers.

As to who should have won the Oscar? I am ok with Anne Bancroft taking this one.

I admire all the nominees that year, it was a truly outstanding crop.

Hepburn went on to win twice more, and I happen to like the fact that Bancroft won her Oscar for a lead role instead of a supporting turn in "The Graduate".

Things evened out nicely.

Lee Remick indeed gave the most memorable performance of her career, and although it was touching and poignant, the revelation o Wine & Roses is actually Jack Lemmon; cast agst type here. (The best actor race was also one of the tightest in 1962!!)

& much as I admire Kate & the cast, LDJiN is a very long & painful film to watch. Its like watchin yo mother or someone dear slowly descending into madness and there's notink u can do to help her & u can only stand helplessly aside and take in all the madness. Kate was mighty proud o her performance (as Anne Marie mentioned, she really pulled off something u never know she could) and for the 1st time, she actually campaigned for a best actress nom. But when she did get nom, she disappeared and became the reclusive Kate again. Had she kept up the momentum, she might just had won

The tight race in 1962 was actually between Anne & Geraldine. both reprising their tony nom performances (Bancroft had already beaten Page at the TONY 2 years earlier). Page was wonderful as the aging movie queen, grasping the last chance at love, but IMO, Bancroft DESERVE the oscar!! no one could prepared me for that raw, real and at times unsympathetic performance. She never played Anne Sullivan as a victim and try to milk our sympathy, rather she played it like a strong, independent woman (hmmm, sounds like sumone here, lol) who just happened to be visually impaired..She totally DESERVES her win & if she had won for The Graduate, that in itself would have been a consolation win (But I agreed giving it to Kate for GWCtD? is LAME!)

joel6, I always look for your comments. They are so entertaining and you seem to like movies from all time periods, as I do. I also love Bancroft in The Pumpkin Eater. It's a shame it isn't better known; after all, it's Pinter and it is the third brilliant film in a row for the underrated Jack Clayton (after Room at the Top and The Innocents).

I'm standing up for Geraldine Page. Making a list of my favourite slate of nominees for any category of the Oscars this best Actress line-up was my #1. Each performance for me is a true and terrific gem. I adore Katharine Hepburn more than is healthy and yet it is Geraldine's performance which is my favourite (and probably tops my list of all Best Actress losing nomination). Just sublime work.

But what a lineup of not just great performances and great actresses but FANTASTIC roles for women (and three of them from good plays). Interesting that Geraldine won the Globe and Anne won the BAFTA but those weren't a time of many precursors. I always rationalise that Anne has the edge of the most sympathetic of the five characters. She's going up against addicts and sociopaths. But even though she's my least favourite of the five it's hard to argue too hard against any of the performances. (Also, this loss for Geraldine always makes her eventual win against Anne in 85 so much more random and amusing. Especially when F. Murray Abraham calls Geraldine "the greatest actress in the English Language" or something and Anne scoffs.)

But, back to Kate, I've always seen this as the essential antithesis to Violet. Both women that are somewhat deluded but in starkly different ways. Like Jane Hudson in SUMMERTIME or Alice Adams, Mary Tyrone is proof that Kate is not quite the Cary Grant type she's remembered - using her same (winning) personality in all her turns. None of these ladies is quintessential Kate but she sells them even though it seems impossible that she will. (Also, Dean Stockwell for MVP of the male cast. What an ensemble!)

Its interesting to note the "battle" between Bancroft & Page (Bancroft won the TONY, BAFTA & Oscar over Page for The Miracle Worker, while Page beat Bancroft to the Golden Globe for Sweet Bird), it's bittersweet & ironic to note that not only Page "avenged" her loss when she won in 1985, but also that Bancroft's nominated part as the Mother Superior in Agnes of God, was originated on broadway by Page, but she was passed on for this role when the movie was cast.

Back to Kate, LDJiN was definitely one o the highlights of her long career. Undeniably one of her top 5 performances! Its a shame she only won at the Cannes (& it was a tie). Her Mary Tyrone was a model template for many future actresses when they took on this role. I alws wondered if Vanessa Redgrave's TONY winning performance was in parts inspired by Kate's, as I did not have the good fortune to watch it on Broadway

The Miracle Worker Anne Bancroft

What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? Bette Davis

Long Day's Journey Into Night Katharine Hepburn

Sweet Bird of Youth Geraldine Page

Days of Wine and Roses Lee Remick

It's easy to luxuriate in this heavenly lineup, probably the tops ever for Best Actress. I still haven't seen LDJIN, and that must be rectified. But I have to go with Anne for the win, who takes a dusty old archetype and daringly and completely reworks it inside out. Bette would be a close second, as she pulls off a miracle. And I have such a soft spot for Lee Remick's performance, which is heartbreaking and completely real--"The world looks so dirty to me when I'm not drinking." Damn.

Gosh. How can you choose? So many great performances. FWIW, I think Kate's best performance was in Love Among the Ruins with Olivier. Yeah, it was just a TV movie, but it is so amazing. And she's amazing in it.

Also, CharlieG: I LOVE you making a shout for LOVE AMONG THE RUINS which is a forgotten TV movie that I adore. Look at that talent, Olivier, Hepburn and Cukor all taking Emmy awards for their work, too. I'm so curious to see what Anne Marie says of it when we reach it. 152ee80cbc

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