But ... i can't : via iTunes i select a playlist form the iPod and i click on Delete. However, this action only removes the playlist from the menu, the files are still on it - i can see that the amount of space on the device is still the same.

I see that you're looking to remove some songs on your iPod to make room for new content to sync over. I'd like to help you remove these songs from your device. To easily manage your content, I'd recommend using the "Manually manage music and videos" setting.


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Once you've done this, select your iPod from the iTunes sidebar. If you need to enable the sidebar in iTunes, you can do this using View > Show Sidebar. Click the disclosure triangle next to the iPod, then choose "Music" from the indented list under the iPod. This will show you all of the songs that you're currently storing on your iPod. From here, you can select the songs that you no longer want on the device, then press the delete key on your keyboard to remove them.

After deleting the songs, my device is still showing the same amount of free space i.e. the songs seem to not be physically removed - only taken out of the playlists - see below. And it doesn't matter how much i delete, the remaining space is still the same.

thank you for the answer. I am afraid i cannot simply reset my iPod - i have invested endless time and efforts to build this collection of music and lessons, so i cannot simply erase all for the sake of going back to original settings. This is an old iPod (dating from 2003), so i do not know even what original settings would mean ?. Backups are not supported anymore, as you can see form my screenshots.

See Recover media from an iPod. Everything that is on your iPod ought to be in your library so that if the device is lost, stolen, damaged or becomes corrupt and needs restoring you are in a position to restore or replace it.

A playlist is an ordered list of track references. The same track can be added to multiple lists without taking up more space. Deleting a playlist from a manually managed device won't delete the songs it is comprised of. You should be able to select On My Device > Music and then delete individual items from that location. If that really isn't working to reclaim used space then that would suggest that something has gone with the file management system on the device. The usual approach would be to wipe out the device and reload the content, but that presupposes you have all of the content in your main library. If you don't the link I have provided shows how to recover all of the media into the library so that you are in a position that wiping the device and reloading it becomes a practical proposition.

See my user tip Recover media from an iPod. You have the files, but they need to be added to iTunes which will hopefully find all the metadata that is still inside the files and can then group them properly by artist and album. Once they are in iTunes you use it to copy the tracks back to the device, not Finder. Note make sure your folders and tracks are not hidden if you are going to use the Automatically Add to iTunes folder to add them to iTunes since when testing (at least with Windows) I discovered that iTunes would discard hidden files instead of adding them to the library.

I've found a lot on the web about being able to manage your iPod through Ubuntu. Is it possible to take songs off the ipod onto disk in a usable form, as my song drive has crashed1 and that's the only back up I have.

The standard Ubuntu music player, Rhythmbox, is able to do that. Just select all the songs/artists you want to copy from your iPod and drag them to the Music tab under Library (all on the left hand side). Once it's done, you can find them in the folder that's under "music library" (edit > preferences > music). Rhythmbox also syncs. I don't use that myself but that might be even easier.

I just bought a new iPod Shuffle and have transferred songs onto it for the first time. I also have an iPhone and iPod Classic so not my first time round, however I can't seem to delete any of the items I've just added. Any clues please?

Find the shuffle in the sidebar, under DEVICES. Click the small triangle to the left of the shuffle name, to drop down its content list (indented below the shuffle). On the content list, the categories of content currently on shuffle are listed. For songs, click on Music. To the right, the list of songs on the shuffle is shown. Select the song you want to remove from the iPod, and press Delete on the keyboard. You can do this with more than one song selected.

Although the literature for the iPod Classic 160 GB (last generation) talks about 40,000 songs being added, it's not clear to me that's actually possible. I have a large classical collection set up under Stan Brown's Taming Itunes for Classical Music method, and with all the large cheap classical boxes coming out, my collection has gotten pretty enormous. My iPod Classic 160GB isn't anywhere near full---probably 2/3 full since I have everything at 128kbps, but when I get close to 30,000 "songs" (actually movements in my case but the distinction shouldn't matter), it starts crapping out. It locks up more and more, and recently I had to reformat the drive to get it to work at all. The same thing happens with my secondary iPod Classic, so it's probably not a mechanical or HDD problem.

They're talking about modded rather than stock iPods, but it also sounds like a limitation of the iPod software itself. Can anyone verify this? Is anyone successfully using more than 30,000 songs on a 160GB Classic? I know Kirk also has a massive classical collection too, so I'd like to know what limits he's pushing, but anyone else's input is certainly welcome.

Apple calculated that 40,000 number based on 128 kbps 4-minute songs. Depending on the size of the artwork you've added to files, that number could be greatly reduced. 2 to the 15th power is 32,768; I don't think there's any such hard limit, and some of the people in that forum thread say that they have gone beyond that limit. It's worth noting that there is a limit with Sonos, of around 40,000 tracks, but if your music has a lot of metadata, the limit is lower. It's not a track number limit, but a database limit for metadata.

Even with all playlists limited to no more than 15,000 items, there seems to be some kind of cap of the total tracks on the ipod. If I have 26,734 tracks, it works fine on both of my iPod Classics. If the track count goes up over 29,000, they will play for a while, but touching any 'key' other than play/pause makes it starts rebooting over and over. Hard disk check confirms both are fine. Weird. I guess I just need to keep the total number of track at around 26-27,000 total. I can't explain the folks who seem to be able to beyond 30,000 but maybe it's the combination of about a dozen smart playlists, each with thousands of tracks, and the high quantity of total tracks that's making mine choke.

I did some more futzing and I realized one of my smart playlists (Beethoven and the Romantics) had crept up over 17,000 items. I changed it to eliminate opera and moved that to its own playlist, bringing Beethoven and the Romantics down to around 12,000 items. That seems to have fixed things....I've been gently nudging the total number of 'songs' up to about 31,150 without any problem for the last few weeks.

Try creating a manual playlist from your playlist C and syncing that. Once you've done that - if it works - try then syncing the smart playlist C, which should work since all the tracks will be on the iPod.

I know that this topic is more than a year old, but the limit of songs for the iPod isn't hard set. There is data about the tracks stored on the RAM on the motherboard - that's set in stone, even if you've modified the iPod for more storage. For the iPod Classic 160GB, the limit is ~50,000 songs. But that number varies depending what's stored in the tags - if you have a lot of large images in the tags, the number you can store may be much less. You can read more about it here:

Interesting. I do have a lot of large images in album covers, so that may be why I can get nowhere near the 50k limit. I'm back down to just keeping about 15,000-17,000 songs on the iPod Classic since it's just too unreliable once I get much past 20k -- crashes, malfunctions, sync issues etc. It's still a ginormous amount of music, but not what I was hoping to get it to do. It's a shame that Apple abandoned the iPod; with more modern tech it could really be something else. 0852c4b9a8

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