2024 and at least please, did someone from the Applepark team open and find out about this massive request from users in some email inbox? Tim !! we deeply need to listen to this incredible music on professional audio equipment connected to a macOS ???

Apple have acknowledged the need for this - hence acquiring Primephonic and creating an entirely standalone app - for this exact purpose. So yes, you can "enjoy the tracks, albums and playlists they saved in Apple Music Classical, thanks to the shared music library," but it isn't fit for purpose.


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I agree, I listen to Classical music the most when at home or getting work done on my Mac. Even if it is one of those iOS compatible apps that are shaped like an iPhone or iPad. I would love the organization of Apple Music Classical on a Mac.

the lack of Apple music app and Classical features being able to transfer over devices, including Macbooks within my same Apple ID account is a serious flaw. I am reconsidering my Apple Music subsciption presently based upon this and my Amazon Echo's selective bad hearing relating to any Apple related commands.

I have the same setup. Macs with iTunes either via direct amp connection or via wired Ethernet to Airport Express base stations using the optical connector to Amps/speakers. The direct connection combined with the large screen on the Mac for browsing classical albums, playlists, etc, combined with several other reasons result in everyone in our household having zero interest in using an iPhone to play classical music at home.

I really don't understand Apple having the insight needed to buy a classical streaming service to incorporate a properly laid out classical music service into Apple Music, and then not having the insight to realise a large portion of the customer base will want this on computer with a large screen, wired directly to DACs, amps, etc.

I did not pay much attention at the time but I thought this was more for dealing with the enhanced meta data/tag information needed for the Classical music genre. For example the same music title composed by the same original composer may have multiple recordings from many different orchestras over time and with sometimes different conductors, soloists or singers any of which might be specifically looked for by classical music enthusiasts.

Well Apple are this month finally launching their new Apple Music Classical app which is the dedicated app for classical music and will be backed up by the current Apple Music streaming service. It will be free to existing Apple Music subscribers.

One aspect to consider is that unlike Apple Music as a whole Apple Music Classical is available in a lossless form. Once more kudos to Apple for recognising that classical music enthusiasts particularly would be concerned about audio quality.

All Apple music is lossless and has been for some time as well as providing higher bit rate quality or spatial audio on many selections including classical. I have used Airplay to get my Apple Classical playing through my Sonos system which works but a bit of a pain!

@orzel and anyone else. Not sure about what you describe. But it is interesting that the minute I installed the app, all of my classical playlists from Primephonic (my goodness that seems like a long time ago. Been on IDAGIO since then) were moved into the app, after sitting in the Apple Music app since Primephonic went away.

You can use the classical music app on the IPad. Working ok on my IPad. New app may still not be perfect but still much better suited to classical music than the old general app. I hope they can continue to improve the app in time. But a definite step forward. Unfortunately cannot see much hope of it being integrated with Roon.

Thank you for sharing first impressions. Mine are roughly similar but I should had one: Apple Classical is very very poor compared to Primephonic. It is a nice upgrade to Apple Music and made this service better for Classical compared to Quobuz and Tidal (hence it is also superior to the Roon experience with Classical). However, Primephonic (bought and closed by Apple) was way better than this new App, with lots of info on the artists and the music, as well as a much nicer graphic interface. Maybe Presto Music will be the new Primephonic, who knows? Last but not the least, Primephonic prouded itself for paying the artists by time of listening (not by track), so does Presto Music. What about Apple?

Apple Music Classical is a dedicated app thats designed specifically for classical music. And if you have an individual, student, or family subscription to Apple Music, Apple Music Classical is included with your subscription. Learn more about Apple Music Classical.

Classical music is different. It has longer and more detailed titles, multiple artists for each work, and hundreds of recordings of well-known pieces. The Apple Music Classical app is designed to support the complex data structure of classical music.

Yes. Your classical collection is synced between the two apps because they share the same music library. So any classical tracks, albums, and playlists saved in Apple Music will also be available in Apple Music Classical - and vice versa.

Apple Music Classical is available on iPhone, iPad, and Android phones.


Classical fans who want to listen on their MacBook or in their car can open Apple Music to enjoy the tracks, albums, and playlists they saved in Apple Music Classical, thanks to the shared music library.

Classical music generally refers to the art music of the Western world, considered to be distinct from Western folk music or popular music traditions. It is sometimes distinguished as Western classical music, as the term "classical music" can also be applied to non-Western art musics. Classical music is often characterized by formality and complexity in its musical form and harmonic organization,[1] particularly with the use of polyphony.[2] Since at least the ninth century it has been primarily a written tradition,[2] spawning a sophisticated notational system, as well as accompanying literature in analytical, critical, historiographical, musicological and philosophical practices. A foundational component of Western culture, classical music is frequently seen from the perspective of individual or groups of composers, whose compositions, personalities and beliefs have fundamentally shaped its history.

Many European commentators of the early 19th century found new unification in their definition of classical music: to juxtapose the older composers Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joseph Haydn, and (excluding some of his later works) Ludwig van Beethoven as "classical" against the emerging style of Romantic music.[22][23][24] These three composers in particular were grouped into the First Viennese School, sometimes called the "Viennese classics",[n 7] a coupling that remains problematic by reason of none of the three being born in Vienna and the minimal time Haydn and Mozart spent in the city.[25] While this was an often expressed characterization, it was not a strict one. In 1879 the composer Charles Kensington Salaman defined the following composers as classical: Bach, Handel, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Weber, Spohr and Mendelssohn.[26] More broadly, some writers used the term "classical" to generally praise well-regarded outputs from various composers, particularly those who produced many works in an established genre.[11][n 8]

The contemporary understanding of the term "classical music" remains vague and multifaceted.[31][32] Other terms such as "art music", "canonic music", "cultivated music" and "serious music" are largely synonymous.[33] The term "classical music" is often indicated or implied to concern solely the Western world,[34] and conversely, in many academic histories the term "Western music" excludes non-classical Western music.[35][n 9] Another complication lies in that "classical music" is sometimes used to describe non-Western art music exhibiting similar long-lasting and complex characteristics; examples include Indian classical music (i.e. Carnatic Music Hindustani music and Odissi Music), Gamelan music, and various styles of the court of Imperial China (see yayue for instance).[1] Thus in the later 20th century terms such as "Western classical music" and "Western art music" came in use to address this.[34] The musicologist Ralph P. Locke notes that neither term is ideal, as they create an "intriguing complication" when considering "certain practitioners of Western-art music genres who come from non-Western cultures".[37][n 10]

Complexity in musical form and harmonic organization are typical traits of classical music.[1] The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) offers three definitions for the word "classical" in relation to music:[27]

However, there are some indisputable musical continuations from the ancient world.[49] Basic aspects such as monophony, improvisation and the dominance of text in musical settings are prominent in both early medieval and music of nearly all ancient civilizations.[50] Greek influences in particular include the church modes (which were descendants of developments by Aristoxenus and Pythagoras),[51] basic acoustical theory from pythagorean tuning,[40] as well as the central function of tetrachords.[52] Ancient Greek instruments such as the aulos (a reed instrument) and the lyre (a stringed instrument similar to a small harp) eventually led to several modern-day instruments of a symphonic orchestra.[53] However, Donald Jay Grout notes that attempting to create a direct evolutionary connection from the ancient music to early medieval is baseless, as it was almost solely influenced by Greco-Roman music theory, not performance or practice.[54] 0852c4b9a8

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