Shawn (00:00):

Hey everybody. And welcome back to English All Over the Place, a podcast for English learners at IUHW and beyond, and maybe for people that just like, think that we're funny. Uh, and as always, I am Shawn De Haven and my other host is

Barney (00:18):

You guys can just go ahead and call me Barney.

Shawn (00:20):

Okay. And today we - through through long negotiations, (Fortitude), intimidation, threats, begging, um,

Barney (00:34):

And money may have exchanged hands.

Shawn (00:36):

I believe I vandalized his car. Um, we have gotten a very special guest today. Um, would you like to introduce yourself?

Hayasaka sensei (00:46):

Yes. Sure. So, my name is Yusuke Hayasaka. Sorry. I'm not so special.

Shawn (00:56):

What?

Barney (00:56):

No, no, no, no. He deserves the biggest round of applause.

Shawn (00:56):

Yeeeeeeea! Welcome to the show!

Hayasaka sensei (00:56):

Thank you so much for inviting me.

Shawn (00:56):

Yes, yes, yes. Of course you are special.

Hayasaka sensei (00:56):

For the final episode?

Barney (00:56):

Thank you for accepting the invitation.

Shawn (01:00):

No, this is not final episode. There's two episodes after this.

Hayasaka sensei (01:03):

Great.

Shawn (01:03):

Please! Do you think you're so important to be our final episode?

Hayasaka sensei (01:08):

Thank you for inviting me.

Shawn (01:08):

The arrogance of this guest! Oh my gosh.

Barney (01:15):

Uh, well, we, we did make it, we did build it up quite a bit.

Shawn (01:18):

Well, you know, I mean, will there was some cajoling and threatening, you know, cracking knuckles around his desk, you know, um,

Hayasaka sensei (01:26):

Yes, I was scared.

Shawn (01:29):

But apparently, Inokawa-sensei (He made the right choice) was not scared enough, but, uh, <imitates chicken clucking> okay. Um,

Barney (01:37):

A lot of students will probably request saying where's the Inokawa-sensei episode?!

Shawn (01:41):

Yeah. Yeah. Well maybe someday.

Barney (01:44):

We tried.

Shawn (01:44):

Um, when we do that, uh, "Gunma location" - (On location!) on location in Gunma. Um, anyway, so we have a, um, the, the esteemed, uh, Hayasaka Yusuke not Hayakawa (Never) Yosuke. We tried to get him, but he was not available or does not exist. Probably.

Barney (02:04):

I think he blocked me on Line.

Shawn (02:07):

Good move.

Barney (02:08):

I know!

Shawn (02:08):

I would've done the same, um, "Stop bothering me." (Who cares about...) Um, so today is just going to be a nice loose chat, uh, with Hayasaka-sensei, um, uh, one of our esteemed English teachers at IUHW (Yeah.) Um,

Barney (02:25):

And, yeah, since nobody is listening to this anyway, we can feel free to say he is our favorite colleague.

Shawn (02:34):

<Feigned gasp of shock> Well, speak for yourself. (Thank you for) no, (Speak for yourself) I will not commit. I believe. Uh, um, Matthew was my favorite, but, you know, it's like lark- liking, uh, George Harrison of the Beatles, the best or something or Ringo. Um, I have a weak spot for peanut allergies. Um, anyway, that's a very inside joke. Sorry about that. (I know.) Uh, so, uh, Hayasaka-sensei, um, eh, was my team teacher, um, for three years here and, um, (I'm glad) that's good. That's nice of you to say. Um,

Barney (03:11):

Yeah. And he was my, um, still is my, um, my desk mate, you know, I'm always, uh, given a shout out to Hayasaka-sensei. Was it when, whether we were in WB or WA, you know, I had to do some, you know, behind the scenes negotiation to convince everyone that it was their idea that his desk be put next to mine, but, uh,

Shawn (03:32):

Oh, really? Okay. Well, your desk was always slowly encroaching on his space, (I know! And...my papers) like Germany, like Germany, looking for elbow room in Europe, you know, one more year, I think, Yusuke would've been gone. Um, uh, anyway, so, um, we just thought we'd ask a few questions and then just reminisce about the last three years together, um, or four years in your case. Um, so you did not start out as an English teacher. Your major was what in school, you, you have a master's in what?

Hayasaka sensei (04:10):

Uh, yeah. technically (Your first master's) aesthetics. (Aesthetics?) So I - it's about beauty (You're an esthetician). Yeah. Um, yeah, it has a long history. So, um, so what is beautiful kind of, uh, top, uh, question from Greek? So it's, uh, part of a philosophy kind of study. So we have, um, so I actually so, um, my major was in the philosophy department part of the literature department and the consists of - philosophy consists of, um, philosophy itself and ethics, and also, uh, aesthetics. And I was in the aesthetics part. (Wow.) And there are people who pursue aesthetics itself, very so kind of philosophical, uh, study, about beauty and also art history and music history

Shawn (05:04):

Fo- My question for the people who are majoring only in aesthetics, what do they do for a living?

Hayasaka sensei (05:10):

That's the - yeah, biggest problem actually,

Shawn (05:13):

it's kind of hard to live beautifully when you have no money.

Hayasaka sensei (05:15):

So just like philosophy. So it's almost a only inside academy - academia. So only university teachers, something like that,

Barney (05:25):

Or a YouTuber or someone going into YouTube.

Shawn (05:29):

Those, those YouTuber philosophers. They make so much money

Barney (05:32):

Giving their opinions about everything telling everyone else they're wrong. And this is why.

Shawn (05:36):

Is that philosophy? I don't know.

Barney (05:39):

Well, when it comes to beauty,

Shawn (05:40):

I want to go back to there. Um, so when you found out you couldn't make a million dollars a year in aesthetics, you went back to school?

Hayasaka sensei (05:50):

Uh, actually, um, uh, it's a bit tricky, but, uh, my friends, so most of my friends, uh, studied art history. Mine was music history (I see), probably they can be, um, you know, uh, gakugei-in

Shawn (06:07):

Curators - a curator in museums and such

Hayasaka sensei (06:11):

And my university - Keio University - was famous for, so, um (Name dropping), curators. So yeah, so many of my friends now are working at museums, but our case, so kind of minority, uh, department, um, music, history is more, uh, complicated in the, some senpai became a free kind of commentator, uh, writer for classical music or something (Like freelance). Yeah, freelance. And, uh, some, some are working at, uh, a music hall, (Okay, like a concert hall), but this, uh, it's a bit dif different from oh so, what we studied. Yeah. One management thing. Right. So I, it was a very difficult, so, um, yeah, the partly because I had changed my, um, so my expertise to English education, (Right.) Yes. Very realistic.

Shawn (07:09):

So you made that change because maybe there wasn't a career path in your major or...?

Hayasaka-sensei (07:15):

Right, right. Right. So I, I pursued a doct - PhD at the time. Yeah. So.

Barney (07:22):

In - in music history?

Hayasaka sensei (07:23):

Right, right. (Wow.) So I, in the, uh, in the half way, I, uh, studied abroad so, in, America only one year as an exchange student. (Yeah.) But also

Shawn (07:33):

In, in, in the, in the classical world of Wisconsin. Right?

Hayasaka sensei (07:38):

That's also a weird decision because, uh, like you imagine, uh, with classical music. So most (Europe, right?) students, uh, go to Europe to European colleges. (Right, yeah.) (Wisconsin.) Wisconsin, but America, um, developed a lot of, so new ways, of studying, you know, so even in the classical music field, so like modern, so, uh I - I was fascinated too. So American, its way of, uh, studying

Shawn (08:11):

But you switched to English. (Right, finally.) That's fine. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with that, by the way we teach it too. Um, I, uh, I wondered though, you know, because you studied English and you're Japanese, and so you have a different perspective than we do. Um, what, when you were studying English, what did you have trouble with?

Hayasaka sensei (08:37):

Um, yeah. Lots of things. Yeah. Just like, um, so English, you know, English learners in Japanese, in Japan. Yeah. Um, at first I have not that many chances to speak in English here in Japan of course, but so I, yeah, I tried various way. So first I, um, went to Nova - Nova, so, uh, the English school (Oh yeah!) conversation school. And I, yeah. a lot of money of course. But, uh, after that, um, so that was not so effective and yeah, after that, I, yeah, tried so more self-study, like, um, reading article in English newspaper, or listening to the radio

Shawn (09:28):

And your first wife was American, right? Just kidding folks. Just kidding.

Hayasaka sensei (09:35):

Well, yeah, just turn the NHK news into English,

Shawn (09:40):

Right? Yeah. It's kind of surprising sometimes when you're watching NHK news, um, they have, uh, um, when you do - change the sound - what is it? "onsei kirikae", they often have English, um, commentators translating the news. So if you guys want to study English, that's one way to do it (Not a bad way, yeah.).

Hayasaka sensei (10:01):

Yeah, at least shichiji no news and kuji no news.

Shawn (10:01):

I don't want to do that job. It seems very difficult, but

Barney (10:04):

Yeah, I think I always, imagined that they get to prepare quite a bit ahead of time, because if there's anything that is ever translated live it's done by other people. Yeah.

Shawn (10:15):

So, um, how, uh, so Barney, do you have any questions for him? Let's see. So, so how did you overcome that with trying newspapers and TV and radio and other things, right. Um, occasionally you'd go to the Filipino pub and speak English, and - I'm just kidding guys. Just kidding. Or am I?

Hayasaka sensei (10:33):

Luckily, so, at that time. So in my graduate school days,, ih, I was surrounded by, uh, international students because I was working, uh, actually I lived in a kind of dorm, big dorm; it's national, so the government, um, built that buildings in Odaiba; it's called: Tokyo Kokusai Koryukan,

Shawn (11:00):

You lived in the Gundam thing, right?

Hayasaka-sensei (11:02):

Next to Gundam.

Shawn (11:03):

Next to Gundam?! Wow, he was like peeking in your room - it's really strange.

Hayasaka sensei (11:10):

But very close to the Gundam

Shawn (11:10):

<making the sound of lights turning on> The lights are so bright at night.

Hayasaka sensei (11:13):

It's a huge to building, so, there are four big buildings next to Gundam. So one is - two are for single researchers. So graduate students from abroad, so one, one is for couples, (Wow.) and the last one is for (lonely Japanese people), 10% of those residents are Japanese graduate, graduate students, helping those non-Japanese

Shawn (11:38):

Hey, can you imagine coming to Japan for the first time and living in Odaiba? Jeez, what an unrealistic picture of what Japan is

Barney (11:46):

Not to mention the Statue of Liberty is not far away.

Shawn (11:48):

It's kind of small, but it's there.

Hayasaka sensei (11:50):

Right, right, right. Yeah. That's true. That my so, uh, actually, so my first time for living alone since then my standard of living, uh, went down.

Shawn (12:03):

Oh, it's all downhill from here, people.

Hayasaka sensei (12:07):

From the 13th floor.

Shawn (12:08):

Wait, wait, but didn't you live alone in Wisconsin?

Hayasaka sensei (12:11):

Uh, no, uh, shared others.

Shawn (12:14):

An apartment with other people. Okay. It was like the TV show Friends, right? Except a lot colder. You couldn't speak much English in, in Wisconsin because your lips that kind of froze people were always bundled up. (Yeah, right.) Um, (Yeah, it's cold.) yes. Yes. I think they got that from my jokes. Um, it's cold. Um, that's basically my impression it's cold and it's - there's cheese. That's about it.

Hayasaka sensei (12:41):

And Mil- (Lots of woods). Miller Beer?

Barney (12:44):

Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Milwaukee.

Shawn (12:47):

Yes. Yes. The, their baseball team is called the "Brewers" because they're famous for beer. Yeah.

Hayasaka sensei (12:53):

Hmm. That was a beautiful and also, so yeah, surrounded by lakes,

Shawn (12:57):

I'm sure it's a nice place. I've just never been there. It's so far away from - I'm from the West coast. Um, Barney, have you been to Wisconsin?

Barney (13:02):

Yeah. Um, one of, well, actually my first year was at Marquette; (Is that in Wisconsin?) That's in Milwaukee. Yeah. (Oh, Okay), Yeah. (Mil-wau-kay) And yeah. And, uh, one, one summer super - not to derail the show - super amazing road trip that I took with my parents. We went through Wisconsin cause my mom wanted to see one of the, uh, Laura Ingalls Wilder homes. Yeah.

Shawn (13:27):

That's the woman who wrote the Little House on the Prairie. Right?

Barney (13:30):

Little House on the Prairie, Little House in the Big Woods. Uh, that whole series. Yeah. It's um, like Hayasaka-sensei says it's very beautiful. Um, lots of, uh, lots of woods and lots of lakes.

Shawn (13:42):

I'm sure there are many places in the United States that are quite beautiful that I just probably never have a chance to see because it's such a big country.

Barney (13:49):

Yeah. You just have to take a road trip.

Shawn (13:51):

And whenever I go back, I'm always, I have only a little time. So I have to meet my parents - my parent now - um, and you know, uh, family members and such, um, so little time. So I can't road trip, you know, no time for, yeah.

Hayasaka sensei (14:06):

I - I have one, uh, simple questions? Uh, you have, uh, 50 states in the States, usually. How many states, uh, have you, um, so when (Have I been to?) yeah, most American citizens?

Shawn (14:19):

Oh, geez. I don't, I can't speak for everybody, but I'm, I've been to, let's see. Um, you've probably been a lot more states than I have.

Barney (14:26):

Yes, I wonder, I wonder, yeah.

Shawn (14:27):

Because a lot of road trips, (Right.) Uh, but I've been to most States on the West Coast, Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, Colorado, Alaska, Hawaii. And uh, yeah, that's about it. Only 10 for me. Oh. And New York. I went through New York once, but at about 10, 11. Um,

Hayasaka sensei (14:46):

Not that many...

Barney (14:47):

Yeah. Now that I think about it, I think maybe there's, um, less than 10 that I've not been to.

Hayasaka sensei (14:54):

Oh, oh really?

Barney (14:54):

Yeah.

Shawn (14:55):

Although, although the States in my, on the West coast are a lot larger sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah.

Barney (14:59):

And you can, you can, uh, you can cheat a little bit if you go to "The Four Corners."

Shawn (15:04):

The Four Corners - yeah, Oh, you're one of those people here,

Barney (15:06):

But I, my sister lives in Colorado, so I've spent plenty of time in that area too, but yeah. Um, um, four kids, you know, myself and three siblings and parents, we can't fly around. So we did lots of camping when I was little. So we drove through lots and lots of states.

Shawn (15:23):

Uh, Oh, I forgot. I sa - I, I did I say Texas? I forgot. So maybe 11 or 12. I have relatives in Texas. So we'd always do the trip from California to Texas and back, and a lot of road there with nothing.

Hayasaka sensei (15:38):

So, yeah, because, um, yeah, it's huge country.

Shawn (15:40):

Yeah. You'll hear a radio station. You'll look around, like, where is that radio station coming from? Where is the town, you know? And they're like, usually on radio stations in America, it's like "We'll take caller number seven," you know, for this contest. Now it's like "Anybody call in and you can win tickets to, uh, our production of 'Our Town'."

Hayasaka sensei (15:59):

Compared to America. So Japan is much smaller (Much smaller) - so probably you've been to more prefectures than 10?

Shawn (16:05):

I don't know. I don't think I, you know, sometimes it's more expensive to travel inside Japan than outside Japan. (Yeah. That's true.) Let's see, let's see. Chiba, Kanagawa um, Yamanashi, uh, Tokyo, um, uh, Ibaraki uh, Aizu is in Miyagi?

Hayasaka sensei (16:24):

Aizu? Uh, Fukushima.

Shawn (16:24):

Fukushima, Hokkaido. Um, of course in Kansai: Osaka, Kyoto, Nara, Hyogo, (Oh yeah.) And maybe Hiroshima. So really, about the same. Um, you, you might've been to more? Um,

Barney (16:40):

No, actually,

Shawn (16:43):

Um, Oh, no, I forgot Nagano.

Barney (16:47):

Maybe I've Well, yeah,

Shawn (16:48):

Been through Gunma too, I did drove right through it.

Barney (16:52):

I had a - a very good friend. So I've been maybe to most of those, except for Nara, and then I have a very good friend who, uh, lived in Kagoshima and then I - closer to the Miyazaki side. So I got two birds with - two prefectures with one flight.

Shawn (17:07):

Oh, right. Yeah. You killed two prefectures with one stone. (Yeah, right.) Sounds grim. Um, what states in United States have you been to besides Wisconsin?

Hayasaka sensei (17:18):

Yeah, New York. And, um, uh, where is Chicago?

Shawn (17:25):

Illinois. So three states. (Yeah, I think so.) Did you go to Canada?

Hayasaka sensei (17:30):

Uh, only the - what do you call it? Just, uh, um, transit.

Barney (17:36):

And don't forget that you've been to Hawaii.

Hayasaka sensei (17:38):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shawn (17:39):

Oh yeah. Yeah.

Hayasaka sensei (17:40):

For my honeymoon. Very typical.

Shawn (17:41):

Also - Ooo! Barney. Where did you go for your honeymoon?

Barney (17:46):

Uh, uh, so we actually got married in, uh, Portland, so that's already kind of a "destination wedding" (This is a weird couple.) Yeah. Yeah. And then we, um, we, uh, were in the, we went up to Seattle and whatnot. Um, our original plans to have like an actual, proper honeymoon. We were thinking about, uh, Fiji, but, um, my wife got a job, uh, soon after we got married. So it just didn't work out.

Shawn (18:13):

Um, I believe my honeymoon was in, uh, uh, Kokobunji. (Okay.) Yes. I know a lot of people dream about it. You know, (It doesn't matter where it is...) Nishi Tokyo (... it's the person.) Yes, yes. Uh, we didn't have the money or the, we didn't even have wedding either. So, um, uh, we kind of, we snuck out at night one time - no just kidding - and just drove to Vegas.

Barney (18:37):

Did you need to sneak out?

Shawn (18:37):

It was really hard to drive to Vegas from Japan too, I wish we would have thought that through.

Hayasaka sensei (18:42):

So anyway, do you have anywhere that you wish you could have gone?

Shawn (18:44):

For a honeymoon? (Yeah.) For a honeymoon? Oh, geez. I don't know. Maybe New Zealand would be fun.

Hayasaka sensei (18:53):

Oh, very beautiful!

Shawn (18:53):

I'm not sure. But, um, I think with three kids now, we're way beyond the honeymoon stage.

Barney (19:01):

You could have the "retirement honeymoon." (Yeah. Yeah.) My one friend in the States he's like, "So did you guys do the 'baby moon' thing?" And I was like -

Shawn (19:10):

"Baby moon"? What's that?

Barney (19:12):

What is that? But I had to be like, Oh no,

Shawn (19:16):

I'm going to ask, "What is that?"

Barney (19:17):

Yeah. Yeah. I thought it's one of those. I think I'll just look it up later. Um, you know, before you have your first kid, you know,

Shawn (19:25):

One last trip?

Barney (19:25):

...while things - yeah. One last trip.

Shawn (19:27):

We did do one last trip before we had our first kid, we went to Kyoto. So that was nice. Um, international travel was expensive and you know, it takes time and it's kind of risky, you know?

Barney (19:40):

Yeah, exactly. Right. Um, you know what, there's already, uh, an increased risk of a clot being pregnant alone. And then when you add flying at altitude to that, then the risk is even higher. So, you know, only Americans would be like, "I've got to take a flight to Hawai'i before we have this kid?"

Shawn (19:57):

Well, that's how all those, uh, "Is there a doctor on the airplane?"

Barney (20:01):

Yeah I know! That's how that goes,

Shawn (20:02):

Yeah, and the baby is named Delta, you know, it's really strange, you know?

Hayasaka sensei (20:07):

So one question, so during your honeymoon, so did you, uh, have a fight? Uh, between (No. No.) - trouble?

Shawn (20:14):

Um, did oh! oh! oh! Did you have a fight?

Hayasaka sensei (20:17):

Yeah. Uh, yeah. My question, usually so sometimes - So a couple - a new couple; as a new couple have a, um, serious fight. (Yeah. Really?) During the honeymoon. Yeah. So they decided to part (Oh dear!) at the airport. We call that "Narita Rikon".

Shawn (20:34):

Really? There's no, "Haneda Rikon"

Barney (20:40):

That's - that's very sad.

Hayasaka sensei (20:40):

You know, international flights.

Shawn (20:40):

Ibaraki Airport Rikon. For the cheap couples.

Barney (20:42):

Yeah, I think - you know, we had dated for like 10 years, by the time we decided to get - So we got, we got the fights all out of the way. And, uh, we were so busy (Not what I heard!), So busy, so busy shepherding, um, her side of the family around the area that there was no tension.

Shawn (20:57):

That's a good way to distract yourself, you know, keep grandma from falling off the bridge or something. Or, um, did you have any, uh, fights when you were on the honeymoon?

Hayasaka sensei (21:08):

Maybe small ones, but yeah, I don't remember any serious ones.

Shawn (21:12):

Cause you kept on turning up the classical music too loud or something? "Must we listen to Beethoven at this time?" you know, "It's Mozart!" you know?

Hayasaka sensei (21:23):

Oh, that was fun and you know - no big problems. (Yeah, good.)

Shawn (21:27):

I have since been to Hawai'i. Yeah. And I did enjoy it, but, uh, it's certainly a honeymoon place. Yes.

Barney (21:32):

Yeah, boy, I mean -

Hayasaka sensei (21:33):

I remember one problem, but that was only my own problem. I, uh, when I, um, swum there - do you say "swum?" (Swam, yes) Um, I forgot - yeah, I left my smartphone. (Uh!), In the pocket of my swimsuit. (Oh my Gosh!) Yeah, so completely.

Shawn (21:54):

Smart phone; dumb user

Hayasaka sensei (21:57):

That was the second day or something.

Barney (21:57):

Well, it's jet lag!

Shawn (22:00):

No, but I, I thought you were going to say that you'd left it on the beach and somebody stole it, because you'd hear that a lot about Japanese tourists being too trusting.

Barney (22:06):

I see.

Hayasaka sensei (22:08):

Luckily that was covered by insurance.

Barney (22:10):

Great. Yeah.

Shawn (22:10):

So you had insurance on that - wow.

Hayasaka sensei (22:12):

Yeah.

Barney (22:13):

Ah! your travel insurance.

Hayasaka sensei (22:13):

Yeah, but during the trip, I couldn't use it. Yeah.

Shawn (22:16):

Covers all idiotic things. Um, it wasn't, I, I had a trouble though, because I was, when I went to Hawaii, I was alone. And so I had to buy like a special plastic case for like my rental car key. I couldn't just leave it on the beach or something like that. So when I was swimming... And I didn't really feel like swimming, but when I went there, the water was so nice. It's so different than the California - the Pacific, which is cold and sharks and other things. (Right.) Um, yes, but I was visiting with some friends at the beach and I liked it so much actually after we were done. And we went back to, uh, the city, I came back alone on the last day to spend some time there it's like room temperature. It's amazing.

Barney (23:03):

Yeah. It just goes to show the power of, um, what nice weather can have on our mood. Yeah.

Shawn (23:13):

Are you saying I was in a bad mood?

Barney (23:15):

It seemed that even someone who hates to go swimming

Shawn (23:19):

Well, it's just - I hate it because it's cold. That's all. That's all (Right.)

Shawn (23:25):

But it is quite a shock when you, when you, when you're used to swimming in a pool, when you get in the ocean and you know, the is moving around you and stuff like that is quite, um, (Yeah, really, yeah.) So, um, back to our guest, Hayasaka-sensei. Um, we got into a honeymoon talk for some reason here, way to derail our show.

Barney (23:44):

It's about reminiscing and whatnot - having a chat.

Shawn (23:45):

Yes. I didn't - reminiscing about a woman that I haven't met before. Um, you know, we have... Combined: we have seven kids now. Yes. And, um, uh, you had two, since you came to IUHW, right? How many of you, have you had,

Barney (24:06):

Uh, um, yeah, one - just one

Shawn (24:07):

One? Okay. And I've had one since I came to IUHW here. Maybe it's the Narita air or something. I don't know. But, um, we still haven't gotten that daycare center for our kids. I wanted to get all of our kids together one time for a picture. Oh, that would have been fun. (That would have been nice.) Yes. But damn this pandemic and everything. Although I think they would probably be probably okay.

Barney (24:31):

I, yeah, I think maybe Hayasaka-sensei's uh youngest is maybe just a - still a little bit on the young side. Maybe not yet one

Shawn (24:40):

How old is he? (10 months.) 10 months. Okay. Well, my one-year-old will love to meet him someday. Um, yes. Yes. Um, so Hayasaka-sensei what was the most difficult thing about working with me? Um, the - something that you had to get used to

Barney (25:00):

We're going to put Shawn in the soundproof booth right now and

Hayasaka sensei (25:04):

I think, generally, uh, yeah, it was - has been really comfortable working with you (Oh, that's nice to say.) Yeah. Because, um, I - partially, because I I'm basically very lazy - last minute -

Shawn (25:21):

You're lazy?!

Barney (25:21):

No way!

Hayasaka sensei (25:21):

I mean, so I, uh, yeah actually, I'm doing, um, things, right - but correct, but, um, so, um, might get very last minute, the things so that I usually use don't move (Ah, that's true.) Yes.

Shawn (25:38):

Yeah. So sometimes I was like, ah, it's class time, let's go.

Barney (25:42):

He's at the computer click click.

Shawn (25:43):

Are you still working on your lesson?

Hayasaka sensei (25:45):

Yeah. And, uh, in that point - in that sense, so are you so kind, or you accepted um, my bad - bad, my bad habit.

Shawn (25:56):

Well, you accepted my bad habits, you know, the smoking in class, the swearing and stuff like that, but putting a cigarette out on the kids that I didn't like, but,

Hayasaka sensei (26:09):

You know, uh, some other teachers, you know, are always, really planned in advance and, you know, are - they're really kind of perfectionists (You can't be talking about me! Nor me!) I was, uh, I had, uh, I could have had more trouble.

Shawn (26:26):

I think our side was the fun side of the office (Oh yeah, I know!) It certainly is the kids' side, but, uh, yeah,

Barney (26:32):

Yeah. Kind of as an outside observer who was very close by, um, yeah, I saw you guys had a lot of, um, what? You complemented each other very well, really two - two - two sides that were different enough in a number of ways that that actually ended up matching together very well.

Shawn (26:53):

Yes, usually in the classes, I was the one that made the jokes and he was the one that believed my jokes at first.

Hayasaka sensei (26:58):

Yeah. Yeah. I was always too - a bit too majime (serious). And you always tried to be funny.

Shawn (27:03):

A little bit too silly, you know, but, uh, I think it worked. (Yeah.) Um, (It was perfect - yeah), I think I remember you commenting, like on the days that I was absent, like all the class was so quiet or something, you know, but, uh, I had never done teaching - team teaching before, and I was kind of wary about it, but, uh, I think I lucked out with my partner. Um, he also has good taste when it comes to designing PowerPoint slides and stuff, and I hate ugly design. Um, sometimes we see designs that just make us laugh. Some of you guys, um, but, uh, um, (Model UN Projects!). Yes, yes, yes. So yes.

Hayasaka sensei (27:47):

I really - I always admired your taste in design. So of course, you're - (Right) used to be a professional designer.

Shawn (27:50):

Well, you know, since you have - a professional graphic designer - since you have a degree in aesthetics, I'm very happy to hear that - approved! Officially approved! Yeah. The Hayasaka Stamp of Approval. Yes. Um, yes. Yes. I try to make attractive slideshows and stuff like that too. Um, let's see here. Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't think you ever worked with, uh, Barney in team teaching. Did you?

Hayasaka sensei (28:15):

Oh, once, Oh, no. Oh, right (No.) I paired with Takasuka-sensei once, but not with you...

Barney (28:20):

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah.

Hayasaka sensei (28:23):

Yeah. That was a pity.

Shawn (28:24):

Yeah, I did it once or twice with him, but it was a lot of fun. Like the Dear Abby, Class.

Barney (28:30):

That was a fun one. Yeah. But yeah, I was always nearby. And you guys never seemed to directly show that you didn't mind me interjecting the occasional ... idea.

Shawn (28:44):

You should have seen my face...

Barney (28:47):

I kind of felt like - sometimes we're we were working together a little bit.

Shawn (28:49):

No, no. Um, and, and, um, Hayasaka-sensei was very, um, accepting of my corrections sometimes that were maybe a little bit harsh. Like, "No, no, that's wrong." No, you know, but, uh, (No, no, I really - I I always appreciate your corrections.) I think I wasn't, as, as harsh as maybe some other teachers that worked with him in the past, perhaps with the corrections,

Hayasaka sensei (29:09):

Uh, no, uh, I mean, you were direct, (Yes, "direct") But some teacher are, uh, too nice and they hesitate to correct. Right.

Shawn (29:18):

No, I have, I've never been accused of being too nice. Yes.

Hayasaka sensei (29:21):

But of the other teachers probably your. Yeah. Your way was the best yeah. To yeah. Even improve other teachers, so English skills. So I really appreciate it. I really like that way.

Shawn (29:33):

Thank you so much. Um, I tried to temper it and maybe sometimes I was a little bit too direct. I shouldn't have slapped you that one time; I'm sorry. But you kept on saying, was it, what was it? You had a couple interesting ticks, like with, like, with the word "genre." (All: Ah) Well, he really pronounced it in the French way or something like that. <imitating French pronunciation of "genre"> I'm like, it's "genre!!" It's not French in this class.

Hayasaka sensei (30:02):

Yeah, I learned a little bit of French. So probably that's part of it.

Shawn (30:05):

Yes. Yeah. So, so this is the real Hayasaka - by - by the way, you're from Saitama, right? (Right, right.) Okay. So what part of Saitama?

Hayasaka sensei (30:15):

Uh, Kasukabe city - the eastern part (Shin-chan) Yes.

Shawn (30:20):

The hometown of Shin-chan, yes - do you ever see him when you go back or in the station or something?

Hayasaka sensei (30:24):

In the station, yeah, we have some posters.

Shawn (30:26):

Oh, okay. Yeah,

Hayasaka sensei (30:27):

A little decoration.

Shawn (30:27):

No statues?!

Hayasaka sensei (30:29):

Uh, no,

Shawn (30:30):

You're missing a chance. I, you know, they could have a statue of him putting his butt out there, you know, you could meet in front of the statue and like, "I'll meet you in front of the Shin-chan statue," you know,

Hayasaka sensei (30:40):

I think they should make use of his popularity.

Shawn (30:44):

Why not? What else is there? (I don't know.) (Not much. Yeah.)

Shawn (30:47):

What else is Kasukabe famous for?

Hayasaka sensei (30:49):

Ah, very traditional, mugiwaraboshi, giri dansu.

Shawn (30:54):

Okay. And then there's that the, uh it was the odori. The, the, uh, uh, one of (Yeah, yeah! Kasuga!) I'm just joking it's the name - it's the name? "Kasuga" "Kasukabe" - It's close enough. It was a stretch. I know. Um, well, you know, um, are there any other, do you have any other questions? Um,

Barney (31:14):

Oh boy, from what we prepared beforehand, I I've, um, can't think of anything exactly to ask. Just,

Shawn (31:22):

I, I it's been, it's been fun, uh, working with you, um, uh, I hope that you guys, the students, enjoyed this episode to see a different side of Hayasaka-sensei. Um, Hayasaka-sensei, uh, here's a question: Do you ever yell, do you ever yell when you get angry or something like that? I don't think I've ever seen you lose your temper.

Hayasaka sensei (31:43):

I think I never... (Yeah.)

Shawn (31:46):

Maybe your vocal chords would break or something,

Hayasaka sensei (31:49):

But I, I think I I'm really easy to get angry (Wow.) (Really?!) On the inside, but, um, I just, don't express it.

Shawn (31:58):

A smoldering furnace; someday, you will go crazy.

Barney (32:02):

Now. I'm worried that I've pissed him off about 10 times and he just never showed it. And I kept doing the same thing over and over again.

Shawn (32:08):

Whenever he makes - whenever he gets angry, he eats peanuts at his desk. I'm joking because you eat peanuts and other loud things at your desk often (I'm sorry, that must be annoying.) So whenever, whenever he's angry at Barney or me (Oh dear!) he's like, I can't hit him. So I'm going to eat peanuts to control my temper

Barney (32:30):

Only now, do I know what I've been doing!

Shawn (32:34):

Oh my gosh, so many times we've made him angry.

Hayasaka sensei (32:38):

Basically yeah, all kinds of Japanese people are kind of that type, so I'm not so kind of passive-aggressive so.

Shawn and Barney (32:47):

Maybe "passive-aggressive!"

Barney (32:49):

Hiding their feelings.

Shawn (32:50):

Instead of just aggressive-aggressive.

Barney (32:52):

I don't know if that question will make it onto next year's English One test or not. (Oh, which one?) The, Oh, my dad is so... He never shows his emotions. Oh yeah, your dad too. You know, I guess they're just...

Hayasaka sensei (33:06):

What do you call this?

Shawn (33:07):

Yeah. As long as the Roomba questions make it on there. Yes. I guarantee whoever's making the test next year will not be writing material like that.

Barney (33:19):

Won' be the same... We'll have to come up with some archive of that.

Shawn (33:23):

Yeah. And boy, if you students could have heard the stuff that we deleted when we were making the test. And Hayasaka-sensei too was participating sometimes and the swearing, and I just couldn't save all those files on my hard drive.

Barney (33:41):

We really wanted to have a blooper reel.

Shawn (33:44):

It'd be a great link, you know, ringtone or something, Katrina, Katrina-sensei saying the F word or something, you know?

Hayasaka sensei (33:52):

So like that, uh, Roomba question so that what I liked about you - having you in our class, I mean, you, in our class is you try to, uh, do always try to do something new in our classes, like, uh, drawing manga. (Oh yes! That was a fun lesson. Yes.) Yeah. So, um, yeah, I thought that's unusual in schools usually. So teachers tend to be very, I don't know, "conservative" probably because they, um, repeat the same thing all the years - every year. Partly because

Shawn (34:27):

I tend to think if I'm bored, then the student is probably bored. So maybe I'm just trying to entertain myself

Barney (34:35):

And the magic of learning happens.

Shawn (34:37):

Hopefully, hopefully. Yeah. Usually. All right.

Hayasaka sensei (34:42):

If that's the case, Barney, Barney, also, um, you try to entertain all the time, so yeah. That was the best part of having you. (Thank you.) Working with you.

Shawn (34:54):

Yes. Yes. Uh, the wacky two are, are leaving IUHW but, uh, I'm sure Cosmin will bring the laughs.

Barney (35:02):

Yeah. We'll see. Who knows the - the new teachers might be (Sure!) just really wonderful as well.

Shawn (35:08):

I'm sure that'll be great. I'm sure they'll be different, but good in their own way. Um, so, eh, I, I, I guess it's time to wrap up this episode. It's gone a little bit long, but it's been a lot of fun with our guest Hayasaka - See, it wasn't so scary. It was fun, wasn't it?

Barney (35:24):

Yeah.

Hayasaka sensei (35:25):

Yeah. Very fun!

Shawn (35:26):

Yeah. Everybody is like, Oh, no, I don't want to go on the show. It's it's so scary. And you know, like, um, another teacher, I don't want to say her name, but it rhymes with, uh, "Beano Kawa," was maybe a little bit too chicken to go on the show, but it's fun.

Barney (35:44):

Yeah. Right. Hassan, since he too, he was nervous when he sat down, but he - just like you, he loosened up right away. Had a great time.

Shawn (35:52):

We didn't even have to give him alcohol. We couldn't actually, because of his religion. (Yeah, right, he refused.) Yes, we tried. Um, but it was a lot of fun having you on here. Um, uh, I, I wish we could continue, but, um, we gotta transcribe this stuff and it'll take a lot of time. Um, but, uh, for those of you listening, thank you for listening and, uh, um, I, I'm glad that you could enjoy the show and, uh, please, um, fill out your, um, survey or give us some feedback we'd love to hear from you. And, um, wherever we are, um, we're thinking of you guys. So, uh, from the staff at, uh, the hosts at English All Over the Place, um, uh, I'm Shawn, (I'm Barney.) All right. And, uh, see you next time. Two more episodes, guys. Keep listening.