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Meeting summary
The meeting began with discussions about video content distribution plans for an upcoming summit and encouragement for speaker participation. The main focus was on planning and organizing the Empathy Summit, including potential speakers, presentation strategies, and the philosophical underpinnings of empathy concepts. The conversation concluded with detailed discussions about empathy circles, their practical applications, and ongoing research initiatives, including plans for future training sessions and family interventions.
Speaker to reach out to Garrett about potentially speaking at Edwin's January empathy summit.
Edwin to prepare for the upcoming empathy summit on November 8th.
Edwin discussed plans to create video clips of summit presentations and post them on LinkedIn and Facebook, aiming to reach more people. He mentioned the upcoming summit on November 8th and encouraged speakers to invite others to participate. Edwin also talked about the need to plan for the next summit in January, including finding new speakers and organizing events.
The discussion focused on potential speakers for an upcoming Empathy Summit, with Edwin and the speaker discussing the possibility of inviting Garrett to share his research on empathy between autistic and neurotypical people. They also explored the idea of including someone involved in interfaith work, as this would align with the summit's goal of fostering understanding between different perspectives. The speaker shared feedback on their recent presentation on empathy, noting that they had not included a formal definition at the beginning, which Edwin suggested might be beneficial for future presentations. They discussed different approaches to presenting empathy concepts, with Edwin emphasizing the importance of starting with a clear definition before addressing related issues.
Edwin and the speaker discussed the philosophical concept of Einfühlung, or empathy, particularly in relation to art and human relationships. They explored how psychology has adapted this concept, noting its origins in aesthetic philosophy and questioning its applicability to interpersonal interactions. The speaker shared ongoing work with a philosophy-focused psychologist to deconstruct ego-centric views of empathy and reconstruct a more relationship-focused understanding, drawing on Heidegger and Levinas's ideas about subjective interpretation and recognizing the infinite nature of others.
Edwin and the speaker discussed the practical application and benefits of empathy circles, emphasizing their value in fostering real-world relationships beyond therapeutic contexts. They explored how maintaining an "I-Thou" relationship can be challenging in hierarchical settings and considered the long-term impact of regular empathy circle practices, such as in family settings. The conversation also touched on the need for ongoing engagement to achieve meaningful mindset shifts and the potential for empathy circles to improve listening and communication skills over time.
Edwin shared his experience using empathy circles with children and teenagers, including a successful intervention with his nieces and nephews. He described how he facilitated empathy circles at Stanford with high school students, despite challenges from a culture of put-downs. Edwin explained that he typically models active listening before having participants practice the technique with each other, and he demonstrated this approach through semi-simulated role-playing exercises during training sessions.
Edwin and the speaker discussed the potential of using empathy circles to address interpersonal conflicts within families and agreed to explore this further. The speaker planned to conduct a family empathy circle and report back in two weeks, while also considering analyzing existing recordings of Edwin's empathy circles with their research team, pending institutional review board approval. Edwin proposed organizing an 8-hour recorded empathy circle marathon to explore deeper awareness and conflict resolution, and the speaker expressed interest in analyzing such a session. They also briefly discussed upcoming empathy facilitator training sessions, with the speaker considering attendance.
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Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discussed the logistics and impact of the Empathy Summit. Jodie's presentation, which focused on the philosophy of empathy, took about an hour. Edwin plans to create video clips of each speaker, transcribe them using Otter AI, and post them on LinkedIn and Facebook. They discussed the importance of empathy in various contexts, including schools and interfaith work. Edwin shared his experiences with empathy circles in his family and suggested incorporating them into Jodie's research. They also explored the potential of using empathy circles in educational and family settings to improve communication and conflict resolution.
[ ] @Edwin Rutsch - Edwin to organize and record an 8-hour marathon empathy circle session with a group of participants.
[ ] Jodie to try incorporating a regular family empathy circle during dinner time and report back on the experience.
[ ] Jodie's research team to seek IRB approval to conduct qualitative analysis on the recordings of past empathy circles.
Edwin Rutsch comments on Jodie Jenson's presentation, noting it could have taken an hour with more details.
Jodie Jenson mentions she has given the presentation with more details and it took about an hour.
Edwin Rutsch appreciates the philosophy and other elements of the presentation.
Jodie Jenson asks about other speakers and mentions watching a video posted by Edwin.
Edwin Rutsch explains his plan to create video clips of each speaker, transcribe them using Otter AI, and post them on LinkedIn and Facebook.
Jodie Jenson praises Edwin's efforts in keeping things moving forward on social media.
Edwin Rutsch shares statistics about the LinkedIn sign-ups and attendance for the event.
Jodie Jenson confirms her availability for an upcoming summit on November 8.
Edwin Rutsch discusses the various presentations at the summit, including empathy in schools and empathy first responders.
Jodie Jenson inquires about benefiting each other in the process and the philosophy behind the summit.
Edwin Rutsch mentions the need for speakers for the next summit in January and plans to create an event for speakers.
Jodie Jenson suggests inviting Garrett, a neuroscientist, to speak about empathy between autistic and neurotypical people.
Jodie Jenson explains the incentive structure in academia, which discourages sharing research with the broader community.
Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discuss Garrett's nervousness about speaking to a broader audience.
Jodie Jenson mentions another speaker who does interfaith work, which could be beneficial for the summit.
Edwin Rutsch emphasizes the importance of having speakers with an empathy background and comfort with the movement.
Jodie Jenson asks for feedback on her presentation and any points of disagreement.
Edwin Rutsch notes the focus on the relationship and holistic empathy in Jodie's presentation.
Jodie Jenson mentions her paper with a psychology professor, deconstructing philosophical foundations of empathy.
Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discuss the importance of grounding empathy in practical processes and relationships.
Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discuss the philosophical trends and the relationship focus in empathy.
Jodie Jenson explains the egoistic approach in psychology and the need to deconstruct it.
Edwin Rutsch shares his use of the art person analogy and the esthetic philosophers' focus on felt experience.
Jodie Jenson and Edwin Rutsch discuss the differences between empathy in art and human interactions.
Jodie Jenson expresses interest in studying the long-term effects of empathy circles on relationships.
Edwin Rutsch shares his experiences with empathy circles in his family and the benefits of regular practice.
Jodie Jenson plans to test empathy circles with her family during dinner to see its impact.
Edwin Rutsch suggests starting with a 20-minute block and gradually increasing the duration.
Edwin Rutsch shares his experiences with empathy circles with his nieces and nephews.
Jodie Jenson plans to involve her research assistants in empathy circles to familiarize them with the process.
Edwin Rutsch discusses the use of role-playing in empathy circle training and the benefits of imaginative empathy.
Jodie Jenson expresses excitement about the potential of empathy circles in her research and family dynamics.
Jodie Jenson proposes analyzing recordings of empathy circles for qualitative research.
Edwin Rutsch agrees and mentions the availability of recordings on his channel.
Jodie Jenson plans to run the proposal by her institutional review board for approval.
Edwin Rutsch suggests involving his research team in the analysis and possibly conducting a marathon empathy circle.
Jodie Jenson mentions her attendance at a funeral and plans to update Edwin on her family empathy circle experiment.
Edwin Rutsch shares his plans for an empathy facilitator training and the schedule for the year.
Jodie Jenson expresses interest in attending future training sessions and plans to fit them into her schedule.
Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson agree to keep each other updated on their progress and future plans.