This bumper 8CD box set is available at the bargain price of 25is. It is also on eBay too. The trouble is that nobody knows anything about it. No concert details or track listing. I have tried writing messages to both companies and the replies have been poor. Any searches on the internet uncovers nothing.
As for Ebay: They stock nothing, they are agents for sellers, some of whom are honest, some of whom are scammers. Hardly a reliable source. The only seller I've found on ebay uk is in perth, and they say 15/9/23, which may be right, or they may have to update that.
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Still can't figure the last two discs. Unless In The Cage and Misunderstanding are swapped. But still, odd thing to throw one track in. Looks like a bit of KBFH broadcasts and Lyceum tapes mixed together.
Version#10: November 22, 2004Copyright1996 through 2004 David Dunnington (david_dunnington@hotmail.com)
CONTENTS Introduction LIVE RADIO SHOWS Summary APPENDIX: BBC sessions Acknowledgements History and credits (version 10 updates) Copyright INTRODUCTION What is a radio show? My quest for good quality Genesis bootlegs has lead me into the world of"radio shows". Radio show transcriptions consist of material prepared forbroadcaston LP, CD, DAT or reel-to-reel tape. These radio masters, being of broadcastquality, have sound reproduction and mixing comparable with officially releasedmaterial. In terms of sound quality a live radio show master is the ultimatebootleg, christened "pre-FM" and much sought after by tape and CDR traders.Not all live radio broadcasts yield radio show transcriptions: shows forbroadcast on local radio do not require distribution, so the recordings resultin a single master source, usually reel-to-reel format for older recordings withmore recent masters held on DAT. Obviously tracking down the original reels of alocal radio broadcast is much more difficult than locating LPs or CDsdistributed to participating stations of a radio network, yet recordings areoccasionally leaked from archive vaults in this way.Initially, the legitimacy of dealing in radio show transcriptions was a legalgrey area: the media which reproduces the show is the property of thebroadcasting company, but transcriptions are not illegally manufactured.These daysregulation is tighter, for example "Record Collector" can no longer acceptadverts offering to sell radio shows and they are officially out of boundson Ebay (though a steady stream of radio shows continue to be auctioned there).Who manufactures radio shows? The king of the radio show is King Biscuit, a transcription service owned bythe US broadcasting company DIR. King Biscuit have put out various series oflive shows, including "The King Biscuit Flower Hour" (60 minutes),"Superbiscuit" (80 mintues) and "Supergroups In Concert" (100 minutes)which are distributed to the variousradio stations in the DIR network for broadcast. King Biscuit's first live showwent out on 18th February 1973 and they have recorded Genesis on most of theirmajor tours. Participating radio stations specify their preferred medium toreceive King Biscuit shows when they subscribe to the network: reel-to-reeltape, LP or more recently CD.King Biscuit made 2 inch multitrack recordings of full shows which theystored in their vaults, with live-to-radio mix additionally caught on 1/4inch tape. For selected rebroadcasts King Biscuit retrieve the 2 inch mastersand put substantial effort into recreating an authentic live experience of theband performing in that particular period. Newer shows often sound noticablybetter than the original broadcasts due toadvances in remastering technology.Latterly King Biscuit have started to release some of their archive materialcommercially, though no Genesis shows. These official CDs listed atwww.kingbiscuit.comshould not beconfused with discs distributed for broadcast, private ownership of which is notofficially sanctioned.It is worth noting that occasionally unbroadcast tracksappear on their official releases, so for any given show there's always a chanceadditional material will be made available. For example the song Prizefightersis present on the official release of GTR in concert at Los Angeles 1986, butwas absent on the radio shows. Now that King Biscuit have issuednumerous official releases from their archives, the non-appearance of a GenesisCD stands out as a significant omission. It is unlikely that King Biscuit havenot attempted to capitalize on their abundance of Genesis live material, so theinevitable conclusion is that Genesis have not consented to release. If so theband may well be reserving the right to exploit the shows themselves - as withthe Lamb show on the "Genesis Archive" box set; indeed a steady trickle ofisolated tracks have in the past contributed to official products.Other companies exist which operate on the same basis, leasing their radioshows to US local and independent stations. Another noteworthy name among theseis Westwood One whose most famous series are "In Concert" and "SuperstarConcert" (both about 80 minutes). Over time the Westwood One network hasgrown and absorbed several others including Transtar, Unistar, NBC, Mutual.A word of caution: Westwood One CDs are relatively easyto fake, their labels are black printing direct onto silver CDRs. Somesuspicious copies have been selling on Ebay at reduced prices withlower quality back print, photocopied cue sheets and the odd occurrence ofdiginoise.An honourable mention goes to the BBC Transcription Services. The BBC havebeen manufacturing LPs (now CDs) since the 1950s which constitute self-containedprograms for broadcast on foreign BBC subsidiary stations. Many of these discscontain speech programmes on a wide variety of topics, but some are musicoriented and the most pertinent to our current concern is the "In Concert"series of live shows. The hour long "In Concert" slot ran on BBC Radio One sincethe late 1960s and has more recently been continued on Radio Two. InterestinglyBBC "In Concert" LPs sometimes differ by one or two tracks from the Britishbroadcasts. When bootleggers became wise to the fact that the LPscould fetch up to 150 pounds (sterling) they began to manufacture inferiorcopies which can be identified as having black labels rather than the authenticBBC green label.London Wavelength was a commercial company set up in the mid1970s to syndicate BBC recordings for airplay on commercialnon-BBC related radio stations.As such they can be considered as an arm of BBC TranscriptionServices, having access to the treasures within the BBC archivesand including the BBC Transcription Services logo on their cue sheets.As with BBC transcription LPs their programs carry an introductionby a British DJ (often Brian Matthew, Richard Skinner or Andy Peebles),but unlike the BBC LPs their programs contain adverts and aresyndicated for airplay under contract.They are famous among music collectors for the "BBC Rock Hour"programs, sometimes featuring album cuts, sometimes interviews,sometimes live concerts; other programs with live shows includethe "London Wavelength Concert Hour" and "BBC College Concert".Due to the adverts, the majority of live shows are subsets oftheir counterparts on standard BBC transcription LPs: the BBCRock Hour usually has about 50 minutes of material whereasBBC "In Concert" programs carry nearly a full hour of music.Yet there are examples of additional material being made availableby London Wavelength, for example there was a special double issueof Rick Wakeman at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1976 comprising 100minutes of a concert formerly limited to one hour on both theBBC broadcast and corresponding transcription LP. Another uniquefeature is that early shows were produced on reel-to-reel tapewhich if well preserved and properly treated can often producesuperior quality sound to BBC vinyl.Scope In the sections which follow, I will concentrate on live material (many radioshows consist of interview and studio recordings) and will focus on bandmaterial: there are also numerous radio shows involving individual band members.To provide context, I will attempt a complete catalogue of all Genesis livebroadcast, describing radio show LPs, CDs and reels where they exist.Bootlegs will be mentioned mainly whenthey relate to one particular radio show or broadcast; a complete list ofbootlegs for each show would clutter the text.Now that digital trading has become the norm it is usually possible to findCDR versions which are sourced closer to the master recordings than are the oldbootlegs. With this explosion of sources it has become correspondingly difficultto obtain information on the lineage of circulating material. The difficulty iscompounded by the ready availability of remastering capabilities which canproduce multiple variant versions of any source. Wherever I have certainknowledge of a version whose provenance from master is know I have mentioned it,but if you intend to hunt for these items bear in mind that nowadays there willinevitably be false imitations and competing or misleading claims.For completeness I have added an appendix on BBC sessions which firstappeared in Jeff Kaa's excellent "9/8" fanzine. Although BBC sessions are notlive in the sense of being performed before an audience they often have a "live"quality due to the limiting influence of the strict time schedules applied atBBC studios. Non-BBC sessions and demos are not addressed because that body ofmaterial could easily fill an article of its own. TV broadcasts will bementioned only incidentally when relevant to radio broadcasts as this subjecttoo deserves separate treatment.LIVE BROADCASTS AND RADIO SHOWS Early tours
1. The Roundhouse, London, 11th March 1970 Speculation about prehistory is an inexact science! Nevertheless I will tryto arrange the incomplete jigsaw pieces so as to present a plausible account ofthis mysterious recording. Apparently Genesis' PA system was not capable ofmaking soundboard recordings until 1973. However this gig dubbed the "AtomicSunrise Festival" at the London Roundhouse was headlined by David Bowie,increasing the likelihood of sound equipment with recording facilities.Verification that Bowie and Genesis played on this date comes in the form of aconcert poster which advertised the festival program as follows:Monday March 9th: Quintessence, Gypsy, Black Sabbath.Tuesday March 10th: Marsha Hunt, Audience, Alexis Korner.Wednesday March 11th: David Bowie (with 'The Hype'), GenesisThursday March 12th: Graham Bond, Clark Hutchinson Band, Juicy Lucy.Friday March 13th: Brian Auger, Formerly Fat Harry, Hawkwind.Saturday March 14th: Third Ear Band, Liverpool Scene, KevinAyers & The Whole World.Sunday March 15th: Arthur Brown, Mighty Baby,Jackie Lomax & Heavy Jelly, Peter Straker & Hair Band,Principal Edwards Magic Theater.Amazingly Genesis were actually captured on film at this concert! Thefilm is silent, though a separate soundtrack is rumoured to exist, the workto sync sound and vision together not having been done. There appearto be quite a few independent reports of footage of various bands filmed at theLondon Roundhouse around 1970, including 35mm film of Hawkwind from April 1970for which the soundtrack is said to be missing. VH1 have shown a clip of DavidBowie live at the London Roundhouse, said to be recorded on 22nd February 1970,the day that Genesis were in London recording their first BBC session forthe Night Ride program. As rumour has it, Yoko Ono was in the habbit of havingsome of the bands filmed at the Roundhouse around this era. Yoko Ono actuallyorganized the "Atomic Sunrise Festival" opening the possibility that the masterfootage and soundtrack resides in the vaults of Apple Corporation.However it is claimed that a search of these archives during July and Augustof 2004 failed to uncover early Genesis material.Glen Colson (formerly at Charisma) was shown black and white 8mm footage atthe time he was putting together the first Archive box set. He remembers itbeing silent, about 20 minutes long, very good quality and says that PeterGabriel was behaving like a young Mick Jagger! Anthony Phillips can be seenquite clearly in the footage, confirming the year as 1970. The dealer(known as Adrian Everett) wanted 20,000 pounds for the film and was "gently"persuaded (on threat of a law suit from Tony Smith) to abandon his ambitions.It is not certain whether Genesis were signed with Charisma at the time, butin any case an offical release is highly unlikely. Another account says thatAnt can be seen playing the accordion on one song.Turning to the subject of the missing soundtrack: Ant, Mike and Tonyreportedly all remember the festival being pro recorded on 8 track equipment.A 20 second snippet introduced as live from the Roundhouse was aired by EarthNews Radio, who's illustrious presenter Lew Irwin has kindly explained in anemail:- "My source for out-of-print and bootlegged recordings was a companyin Glendale, CA called Discontinued Records. They are no longer in business (theowner died), and I have no idea who acquired their collection (it was enormous).They did not actually sell the recordings, but made cassette copies for clients.I did not retain any of mine". Following up on this lead proved interestingas the somewhat chequered saga of DISContinued Records began to unfold.Owner Les held one of the largest vinyl collections in the world, a massive2.5 million used records at his outlet on South Victory Blvd, Burbank.For a fee Les would record a selection or an entire album for a customerand the scale of his activities attracted the attention of the RecordingIndustry Association of America (RIAA) who then purchased tapes fromDISContinued Records to use as incriminating evidence.On 14.Sep.81 Les was arrested and stock was seized in an RIAA raidon a charge of copyright infringement and a further more serious chargeof grand theft on the basis that he had appropriated funds and propertyexceeding $25,000.A weak defense, mounted on the basis that Les thought he had theimplied consent of the record companies, quickly collapsed.But the grand theft charge did not stick and he was instead foundguilty of copyright infringement and petty theft, placed on probation,fined $7,500 and ordered to refrain from transferring recorded soundswithout a license or consent.DISContinued Records is mentioned in another court case relatingto the manufacture and distribution of Elvis Presley records in 1980.California was known to be one of the major producers of bootlegrecords through the 1970s and 1980s and based on this evidence itlooks as though this operation in Burbank played a large part inestablishing this reputation.When Les died his son tried to continue the business, moving tonearby Glendale but eventually closed it down.Les's brother auctioned the stock and the proceeds were used tofund a Memorial Music Scholarship at California State University,Stanislaus which operates to this day; a fitting end to the storyof an incredible music collection.Sadly all this brings us no closer to uncovering the truth about theearly Genesis recording, indeed the trail seems convincingly cold.A final word about the Roundhouse: it is fair to point out thatconsiderable suspicion must attach to the date given since AntPhilips firmly believes Genesis were not professionallyrecorded live during his tenure with the band (though he does recall someonewith a hand-held camera at one of the Roundhouse gigs).Although it would be neat to tie this radio show snippet with the filmthere is certainly room for doubt. The details of this recordingremain a tantalizing mystery which I would love to solve!1.1 "Earth News Radio" [1978 - LP]
Evidence of the LondonRoundhouse recording is in the form of a fascinating 5 minute and 45 secondsegment on a rare radio show LP called "Earth News Radio". It consists mainly ofLew Irwin interviewing Peter Gabriel soon after the release of his second album(June 1978). The really interesting part occurs in the first minute. After abrief introduction, Lew announces that we are "about to hear a rare recording ofGenesis recorded at the Roundhouse in London nearly ten years ago". Then thereis a live snippet of Twilight Alehouse which plays for 20 seconds before theinterview begins and there is talking over the music which continues for afurther 20 seconds - Gabriel is saying how there were more people on stage thanin the audience. During this first part Lew Irwin dates the recording as "circa1967" - which must be a rather wild estimate! The remainder of the interviewconsists of questions and answers which present a cursory history of Gabriel'scareer up to his second album.The all-too-brief excerpt from Twilight Alehouse is certainly professionallyrecorded and is different from other such recordings (the B-side version, theBBC session version, the version recorded for Belgian TV). 2. BBC Paris Studios, London, 2nd March 1972 This 30 minute broadcast, part of the BBC "In Concert" series, contained aconcert performance of three songs before an audience in BBC's Paris Studio.Andy Dunkley introduced the hour long program which consisted of a set by a bandcalled Max Merritt And The Meteors followed by Genesis' set. The producer wasJeff Griffin and the engineer Chris Lycett. It was first broadcast on 11th March1972 and the Genesis portion was repeated (minus Peter Gabriel's briefintroduction to the first song) on 20th May 1989 during Alan Freeman's"Saturday/Sunday Rock Show". The Fountain Of Salmacis [story of The Musical Box] The Musical Box The Return Of The Giant Hogweed It is entirely possible that theBBC made a transcription LP to accompany the original broadcast but I have notactually found any concrete evidence of an original LP. There is an unconfirmedrumour of an LP to accompany the 1989 rebroadcast, said to couple this show withGenesis' Night Ride sessions unearthed on the "Saturday/Sunday Rock Show" forrebroadcast in 1990. In the past this underrated performance has been poorlyrepresented on bootleg but is now more common on CDR and has been released byHighland on "Live Rarities 1970-1973" [HL 287/288 - 2CD]. A good version can befound on "The Complete BBC sessions" CDR described in the sessions appendix. 3. Jahrhunderthalle, Frankfurt, 17th January 1973 The next live set to be broadcast is reputed to be part of an event called"The Sound Of Britain Festival" recorded at the Jahrhunderthalle (Century Hall)in Frankfurt and aired by Frankfurt's AFN radio. Watcher Of The Skies The Musical Box The German introduction to the performancetranslates to English as follows: "The last piece of music I'd like to introducenow is something that we might call 'Elektrolore'. It's folklore and everythingmixed into it, and it's electronic; how else could it be called? Anyway, it's avery interesting group, which I've already met a couple of times before. So,this is Genesis!"Doubt exists over both the venue and date attribution. It may be thatthe songs were performed in a TV studio, a possibility given credence by theannouncer's introduction and the resemblance of the crowd noise to a studioaudience. As for the date, the official Genesis timeline has them on tour inGermany on 17th January, but not in Frankfurt, and no mention of this broadcastbeing recorded. Whilst the official timeline is not infallible it seems theexact date and location of this performance are in question.Some tape copies of this material are accompanied by a recording of Supper'sReady which is sometimes mistakenly assumed to be part of the Frankfurtrecording. In fact it was performed live in the studio for the French TV program"Melody". I Know What I Like was also performed for the Melody program, andvideo copies have over the last few years been leaked and traded quite widely.I do not know if AFN Frankfurt retained their master tape of this broadcastbut I guess it is unlikely to see the light of day now. You can find a rathermuffled version on the bootleg "Tango" [Chapter One CO 25112 - CD]together with the soundtrack of a live TV studio appearance in Brussels on20th and 21st March 1972. Copies with better definition can be found on CDR. 4. De Montfort Hall, Leicester, 25th February 1973 The official LP "Live" was re-mixed from tapes originally recorded by KingBiscuit. Charisma initially intended to release a double album, but instead cutthe recording down to produce a single budget LP aiming to reach a wideraudience. Nevertheless plans for the double album were sufficiently far advancedfor Charisma to have commissioned test pressings from Philips in Hollandentitled "Live at Leicester & Manchester" [Philips 6830.140/1, 13.Apr.73 -2LP]; the numbers stamped into the vinyl are AA 6830 140 1Y 1 670 1 series. Eachlabel was written out by hand so they all look slightly different. A few ofthese Philips test pressings were distributed by Phonogram Int. B.V and havesurvived but are very hard to find. They contain the additional track Supper'sReady, complete with Peter Gabriel's introductory story, and some of the othersong introductions are a little longer than on "Live". Besides the vinyl testpressings there also exists a set of two acetates which must take the honour of"ultimate live Genesis rarity".Record I:
Side 1
Watcher Of The Skies The Musical Box Side 2
Get 'Em Out By Friday Record II:
Side 1
["Old Michael" story] Supper's Ready Side 2
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed [Manchester 24th February 1973] The Knife So well hidden were the surviving test pressings thatthey acquired lengendary status and many knowledgable fans doubted theirexistence. Luckily a good tape of one of the double LPs has been used to master "Some Of You Are Going To Die" [Alternative Recording Company ARC 004- CD] giving more fans a chance to hear the album in its original form.The test pressings themselves are not "radio shows": they were notmanufactured for the purpose of radio broadcast; the opportunity to describethem here is due to independently mastered shows broadcast by King Biscuit andthe BBC. Radio recordings of the show can be distinguished from the Philips LPsdue to minor differences in sound production - King Biscuit's recording seemsmore "polished". On that basis I believe "Genuine Genesis Live" [GGL 2/73 - CD]to be derived from the King Biscuit broadcast. Also, the old bootleg "CarnegieHall" [TAKRL 933 - LP] is undoubtedly the same material and was probably tapedfrom a King Biscuit show. The Leicester gig will have been one of King Biscuit'svery first recordings; it has not contributed to any of their more recentretrospective compilations and as far as I know the show has not survived on anymedium distributed by King Biscuit.Supper's Ready from this recording was aired by the BBC on the "Sounds of the70s" show, hosted by Bob Harris and transmitted on Monday 23rd July 1973. Thesource was a "private tape" supplied, in all probability, by Charisma and assuch is unlikely to have been retained in the BBC archives. A tape containingthe BBC broadcast has long been circulating amongst tape traders, coupled withthe "In Concert" broadcast (section 2)under the name "UK Tours 1971-1973".None of the tapes or bootlegs derived from the King Biscuit broadcast includeHogweed, and according to the test pressing cue sheet this was the only trackrecorded at Manchester's Free Trade Hall (24th February 1973), therefore it ispossible King Biscuit recorded the Leicester show and Charisma added Hogweedindependently to complete the LP. All versions of this material sound heavilysupplemented with studio overdubs. 5. Olympia Theatre, Paris, 7th May 1973 French AM station Europe 1 broadcast part of a gig from the Foxtrot tour ontheir "Musicorama" show with a reporter describing the on-stage action betweensongs. Introducing the Knife, the announcer said that "the audience were verywarm that Monday night" which helps to verify the performance date as Monday 7thMay.There are no bootlegs from the broadcast; tapes are pretty hard to find andthose I've heard are of a poor standard with Knife being clipped just before itfinishes. Musicorama was a popular AM broadcast in the early 70s and Europe 1sometimes rebroadcasts in stereo bits and pieces from these early shows - forexample a Pink Floyd 1970 show was partially rebroadcast in 1995. So there is apossibility that Europe 1 still have their recording from the Olympia and mayair it again one day. Watcher Of The Skies The Musical Box Get 'Em Out By Friday The Return Of The Giant Hogweed The Knife 6. Rainbow Theatre, London, 20th October 1973 It has long been supposed that this was a BBC recording, but in truth the BBCarchives have no record of the show. The recording was made by Charisma and someof the material has been included in the Genesis Archives box set [Virgin 72438422221 2 3 - 4CD] (missing are Watcher Of The Skies,Epping Forrest, Cinema Show). Watcher Of The Skies Dancing With The Moonlit Knight I Know What I Like Firth Of Fifth More Fool Me The Battle Of Epping Forrest The Cinema Show Supper's Ready London's Capital Radio came on air on 16th October 1973 making it the secondcommercial radio station in the UK, LBC having made their first broadcastonly a week or so earlier.Genesis at the Rainbow received its debut broadcast on Capital Radio soon afterthe station was launched. Later there were several local US broadcastsprobably supplied by Charisma to promote the US leg of the "Selling EnglandBy The Pound" tour. Absent from these hour long US broadcasts were Cinema Showand Epping Forrest, so related bootlegs (such as "Watchers Of TheSkies" [Great Dane Records GDR CD 9018 - CD]) are similarly incomplete.Two verified US broadcasts are WXRT Chicago (1976) and WNEW New York (1986).WXRT are in the habbit of airing their version every few years, the mostrecent of which was on 13th February 2000 - Peter Gabriel's 50th birthday.A DAT recording of this latter 60 min broadcast is the best I have heard,leaving aside the doctored version on Archive #1.Tapes of the show and other bootlegs include the extra tracks broadcast byCapital. One to look for is the classic two part bootleg LP "The Great Lost LiveAlbum" [G48,G50 - 2LP], a very good recording which includes Epping Forrest butnot Cinema Show: this is rumoured to have descended from the Charisma masterrather than a broadcast. "Welcome to Epping Forrest" [RFCD8 - CD] is probablythe definitive commercial CD release: an expertly remastered version of "TheGreat Lost Live Album", but again minus Cinema Show. The best bootlegversion of Cinema Show, though still a little hissy, is on "Live Supper"[Chapter One CO 25111 - CD].Hundreds of Capital Radio masters have beendonated as a collection to theNational Sound Archiveintroducing a glimmer of hope that the original broadcastreels may have survived; however most of the Capital tapesare as yet poorly catalogued and those which are documentedappear all to be dated from the 1980s onwards. 7. Roxy Theatre, Los Angeles, 18th December 1973 (early show)Reputed to be among the finest Genesis performances are the six gigs theyplayed at the Roxy Theatre, LA in late 1973. For each of the 17th, 18th and 19thDecember Genesis gave both matinee and evening performances. A broadcast whichis often overlooked is of the early performance on the 18th. The show camecourtesy of a small local Los Angeles AM radio station, KDAY - long sincedefunct. Watcher Of The Skies Dancing with the Moonlit Knight The Cinema Show I Know What I Like [story - woman in tube train] Firth Of Fifth More Fool Me The Musical Box Supper's Ready Existing tapes sound poor partly because ofthe compressed nature of AM sound and partly because the show may have reachedonly a handful of tapers increasing the likelihood of degradation duringthe process distribution. Consequently it has not been deemed worthy of bootlegrelease.Happily there are decent bootleg releases of the morning show on the 19th!"Skywatchers" [TMQ 72115 - 2LP] and "Fantasia" [Exposure EX-002-1GE -CD] both have reasonable balance and pretty good stereo sound. Althoughcertainly taken from the soundboard and with the aid of an audience micropone,There are lower generation copies available in trading circles which have aminute or so more of Supper's Ready than do the boots, finishing towards theend of the Apocalypse section rather than near the beginning. Watcher Of The Skies Dancing with the Moonlit Knight The Cinema Show I Know What I Like Firth Of Fifth The Musical Box Horizons Supper's Ready [fades during Apocalypse] I have not so far found evidence of a broadcast of the matinee show on 19th.A plausible theory is that both the 18th and 19th were recorded proffessionallyand the 18th was selected for broadcast. If correct this would require someonewith access to the later recording to leak the show in order that it eventuallyfall into the hands of the bootleggers. 8. Centre Sportif, University of Montreal, 21th April 1974An entire "Selling England By The Pound" set was broadcast live on the air byMontreal radio station CHOM-FM (not to be confused with Toronto's local stationCHUM-FM). Genesis were supported that night by Peter Hammill though his songs,introduced by Peter Gabriel, were not broadcast. To round things off CHOM-FMalso broadcast a 20 minute post-concert interview and phone-in with Gabriel. Watcher Of The Skies Dancing With The Moonlit Knight The Cinema Show I Know What I Like Firth Of Fifth [with piano intro] The Musical Box Horizons The Battle Of Epping Forrest [story] Supper's Ready Apparently the live broadcast was sent by telephonefrom the hall to the radio station, so the original sound is slightlycompressed. Nevertheless the broadcast spawned many bootlegs, the more recent CDversions having good sound - for example, "Live In Montreal"[Swingin' Pig Records TSP-CD 040-1/2 - 2CD]. A superior version is circulatingon CDR whose provenance is a reel-to-reel tape recorded off air; it includes theSupper's Ready story which is absent from all previous bootlegs. Some listingsclaim this version stems from pre-FM reels but the cross line telephoneconversation during Horizons indicates it must be recorded from broadcast. Adefinitive remastering of this version is now available as the fourth releasedof the FAde programThis particular show is a good one to own, not just because it is the onlycomplete professional recording of this set but also because it sports a finelyhoned performance. Genesis had been on the road with this material for sevenmonths and had already delighted the Montreal crowd at an earlier visit inOctober 1973. Watch out especially for some great upbeat backing vocals fromPhil - during Willow Farm for example. 9. Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, 24th January 1975 This concert was professionally recorded by Genesis' sound engineer, JohnBurns, and Genesis management hold the master. The Lamb section of the show isavailable on the "Genesis Archives" box set, though with much overdubbingincluding doctoring of about one third of the vocals.An early official release of TheWaiting Room from this performance was B-side to the single version of CarpetCrawlers [Charisma CB251] where it was nicknamed "Evil Jam". Performancewise this show is incredible with great musical virtuosity and an atmosphereof intimacy and menace: played loud it feels as though you are right therein the auditorium, especially on the unofficial (undoctored) short recording.Missing from the box set are the last song of the standard set (It) and thetwo encores (Watcher Of The Skies and Musical Box). Tony Banks's accompanyingnotes claim that the intention was to make two overlapping recordings but thatthe second recording was not started due to an "engineer asleep on the job".Nevertheless a portion of the show broadcast on Dutch Radio included thethree final songs. All of the 35 minute broadcast was taken from the secondhalf of the show lending weight to the theory that the overlapping recording wasindeed completed. There can be little doubt that the source of the broadcast wasthe John Burns recording because the crowd noises audible on the Archive #1version match those of the broadcast indicating at the very least use of thesame audience microphones. I conclude that Tony Banks owes John Burns anapology!Loss of the second reel would certainly explain the omission of thefinal three songs on the official release, but another possibilityis disatisfaction with some aspect of the performance. For examplethere's a noticable drum error during It, just after the line"It is hope for the dope ..." as though Phil has dropped a stickand had to fumble for a new one. I have it on good authority thatdrum mistakes are very tricky to fix when doctoring a live performancefor release.For quite a while I subscribed to the generally held belief that thismaterial was broadcast by King Biscuit, but the only evidence I have found onthis matter is negative. There are no tapes with Shrine Audititorium materialcontaining King Biscuit announcements, adverts or a radio ID. A recent KingBiscuit compilation containing live Lamb material attributed to ShrineAuditorium (section 10.27)turned out to be a segment of their old Wembley 1975 recording. Theone lead I had claiming original King Biscuit reels from Shrine Auditoriumturned out, after negotiations lasting five years, to be mistakenly attributedKing Biscuit reels from Rainbow 1977. Though I have emailed King Biscuit for anydetails their archives might hold on the Shrine recording they have been eitherunable or unwilling to clarify the situation.The Dutch broadcast was carried by "Hilversum 3" since renamed "Radio 3", aspokesman recalled that the tape they received for broadcast from "a recordcompany" was about 90 mins long but that the tape had gone missing, possiblytaken home by an employee. Dutch Radio 3 have no record of the originalbroadcast date and say that there have been no rebroadcasts; the concludingannouncement on the tape is "that was Genesis recorded in 1975" which suggeststhe broadcast probably took place sometime in 1976.Watcher Of The SkiesLilywhite LilithThe Waiting RoomAnywayItThe Musical BoxLow generation recordings from the Dutch broadcast are rare, thematerial is better known as the worthy old bootleg "As Though Emerald City"[TAKRL 1945 - LP] and it's CD equivalent "Twilight Alehouse" [Flashback10.89.0109-33 - CD]. Beware of the bootleg LP "Revelation Without A Cause"[Wizardo Wrmb 313 - LP] as it was recorded from the audience at the same gig.There is also a fairly rare 90 minute version held by a few collectors(beginning with In The Cage) which was rumoured to originate from FisherFarm Lane studios, but once heard it was fairly obviously just an audiencerecording.A better recording can now be found as a CDR bootleg said to besourced directly from broadcast reels.The quality of the sound certainly seems consistent with this assertion;moreover comparing this version with the Dutch broadcast revealssome differences which suggest it may well be a different source: Longer applause before Musical Box including Peter thankingthe crowd a few times Longer applause at the end where the announcer cutsin on the Dutch broadcast Somewhat abrupt transition to clapping after Watcherand longer applause before Lilywhite LillithHopefully one day some some supporting information will emergeregarding the history of this "reels" version to lend extraauthenticity to the claim. 10. Empire Pool, Wembley, London, 15th April 1975 One of the most bootlegged radio broadcasts in Genesis' history was recordedat the Empire Pool, Wembley. Genesis played two nights at Wembley and the BBCwere contracted to record both nights. Some sources quote the recording date as14th, but comparison with an audience tape from 15th shows the recording is fromthe second night. The proliferation of this show on bootleg is partly due to thelarge number of broadcasts it has received: at least three by the BBC; severalworld-wide broadcasts of a BBC transcription LP; some King Biscuit broadcastsand numerous Westwood One airings.In total, just under 70 minutes of the concert have been aired. The firstbroadcast on BBC's "In Concert" program, 12th July 1975 at 6:30pm, wasbootlegged by the classic "Awed Man Out" [TAKRL 1975 - LP], minus Watcher Of TheSkies. Tracks on the original BBC broadcast were as follows: Watcher Of The Skies Cuckoo Cocoon [part of the story of Rael] Back In NYC Hairless Heart Counting Out Time The Carpet Crawlers Lilywhite Lilith The Waiting Room Anyway Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats / Colony Of Slippermen [Arrival section] / Ravine The Light Dies Down On Broadway Riding The Scree Two additional tracks can be found amongst therebroadcasts: In The Cage The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging Although an encore, WatcherOf The Skies whenever broadcast is always the first track played. Curiouslythe final verse of In The Cage, present on the audience recording, is edited outof the broadcasts giving the impression Peter forgot the lyrics.Only the original broadcast contained Lilywhite Lilith, the story precedingBack In NYC and the complete performance of The Waiting Room, subsequentversions of The Waiting Room being edited to approximately half the lengthof the original. These particular segments are not to be found on transcriptionsbecause a different selection of tracks was used on the LP which correspondsto the debut broadcast. In fact the songs on the first BBC LP match exactlythose used for the BBC rebroadcast.Among the many bootlegs, none compiled from the full set of broadcasts untilrecently: "The Light Goes Down on Empire" [Highland HL-271 - CD] has everythingincluding Grand Parade and those parts exclusive to the original BBC broadcast.This Highland CD is easily the best being of excellent sound quality and wellmastered. A version which originates from the BBC masters is the best interms of completeness, while the Westwood One CDs are a little more refineddue to remastering. Traded under the label AV01 is a CDR which compilesthe best pre broadcast sources to create the ultimate version.10.1 BBC "Pop Spectacular" [show 98, CN2302/SQ, 29thweek 1975 - LP]
The BBC pressed a quadraphonic LP to accompany theoriginal broadcast, hosted by Brian Matthew and named "POP SPECTACULAR featuringGenesis In Concert". As often happens with BBC LPs this transcription differsfromthe corresponding UK broadcast: In The Cage was added at the expense ofLilywhite Lilith and splicing out a couple of chunks of The Waiting Room. Watcher Of The Skies Cuckoo Cocoon In The Cage Back In NYC Hairless Heart Counting Out Time The Carpet Crawlers The Waiting Room [abridged] Anyway Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats / Colony Of Slippermen (Arrival only) / Ravine The Light Dies Down on Broadway Riding The Scree 152ee80cbc