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I'm hoping to run new phone, ethernet and coax cables. As it turns out, I'll also be running 3 conduit runs from the distribution point to the attic. Is there a significant benefit to running the cables in their own conduit? One conduit all data, one all phone the other all rg6?


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6 wall plates are getting wired through the conduit and they're sort of paired by location. My thinking was to pull two bundles through each conduit that I can then separate and lead to their respective wall plates. I'm even planning on building this cable reel (link to my article) so that I can pull each conduit in one shot.

no, there is nothing wrong with running all three in the same conduit as long as the conduit is large enough to accommodate. None of these type of cables have any significant voltage. Just do not run power lines with data or phone lines.

Core datatype of the conduit package. This type represents a general component which can consume a stream of input values i, produce a stream of output values o, perform actions in the m monad, and produce a final result r. The type synonyms provided here are simply wrappers around this type.

Output from the upstream (left) conduit will be fed into the downstream (right) conduit. Processing will terminate when downstream (right) returns. Leftover data returned from the right Conduit will be discarded.

However, sourceToList is able to produce its results lazily, which cannot be done when running a conduit pipeline in general. Unlike the Data.Conduit.Lazy module (in conduit-extra), this function performs no unsafe I/O operations, and therefore can only be as lazy as the underlying monad.

Implemented on top of ZipSource and as such, it exhibits the same short-circuiting behavior as ZipSource. See that data type for more details. If you want to create a source that yields *all* values from multiple sources, use sequence_.

You can define a depth of sediment in the invert of the conduit. This sediment reduces the capacity of the conduit by obstructing the flow. The maximum value for the Sediment Depth is 80% of conduit height.

The ratio of voids volume to total volume of permeable media. The porosity will directly affect the water levels in the structure. Depth will vay in inverse proportion to porosity, e.g. if porosity is 30%, then the depth will be twice that of a conduit with porosity 60%.

Unique ID associated with the corresponding object in an InfoAsset Manager database. When importing from InfoAsset Manager, the InfoAsset ID can be copied from the InfoAsset database in order to maintain links between the two networks.

This field defines the geometry of the link. The underlying data consists of a series of (x,y) pairs defining the vertices of the link. Each link is made up of a series of straight lines between the defined (x,y) points.

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daron at wilson dot org RE: running fire alarm cables in the same conduit with Data skip555 (TechnicalUser)(OP)12 Nov 04 07:30I wont actually be installing any cabling


I was going to be doing the voice/data but it looks like that part of the job is now going to the electrcions


I wiil terminate and install and maintain phone system and network 


customer was asking me what I thought about running data and fire in same conduit as that was what the electrcian was proposing (since he hadnt allowed enough conduit to run seprate) she says the alarm peaple had no problem doing it that way 


I am going to call her back this morning and suggest she make the electrcion run a seprate conduit 


 RE: running fire alarm cables in the same conduit with Data DTSMAN (TechnicalUser)12 Nov 04 09:18OK, I am thourghly confused. A while back I asked about sharing a conduit with coax wire with the power leads sistered to it for a camera system and was reccomended not to. No one is reccomending sharing with the low voltage lines of the fire system. 

 Then how is Power over Ethernet(PoE) Ok. I started a thread on this about 12 threads back. And in that thread it is OK to rob the brown pair for this which is in the twist, not just laying in another cable beside the ethernet? RE: running fire alarm cables in the same conduit with Data jimbopalmer (Programmer)12 Nov 04 09:35So far as I know Power over Ethernet, is a IEEE standard designed to not interfere with ANY previous ethernet standard (IEEE802.3af) That gives us some hope it really doesn't. 


That is NOT mixing video and data or alarms and data; which no standards body is designing specifically to co-exist. Few of us have the ime to test all the possible failure modes personally, so we tend to only accept standards. Note in this thread, no one has ANY hope the network will work while the alarms are on.


This would be vital in my network as we use VoIP 2500 feet underground and cutting off all the phones in an emergency might be viewed as a bad plan. (actually my data is over fiber optics so it is not a worry) I tried to remain child-like, all I acheived was childish. RE: running fire alarm cables in the same conduit with Data jeffbouldin (TechnicalUser)15 Nov 04 00:56Bospruell,


Running 24 volt ac or 12 volt dc in a seperate wire bundled with a high quality 95% copper braided coax rated for cctv will not cause a problem. Running conventional fire alarm and security system wires with each other and cctv will not cause a problem. 


Running data carrying wires (addressable loops, RS-485, keypads, network, etc.) with these and other powered wires(hore/stobes, speaker/strobes, analog phone, etc.) can cause problems. You won't always see these problems immediately, usually it gives problems when the occupents are in the building. Now on warrenty time you have to troubleshot problems that come and go. It will take awhile and fixxing it could involve rerunnig wire that is not easy to get to.


Keep each system by itself as much as possible. Save yourself time and money in the long run. RE: running fire alarm cables in the same conduit with Data Jd925 (TechnicalUser)25 Nov 04 14:39Aside from code in your area, if they allow it with a conventional or basic zoned panel it should not be a problem BUT dont do this if the fire system is addresable. Addresable FACPS send out a tone that overpowers any toner I have used. 


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I made quite many tools in c# dot net with display conduit and it always work perfect with moving simulation. I have some moving polygons.

Unfortunately this time it is not redrawing viewport. It is showing all previous positions of the polygon objects. The viewport redraw is not working.

Dear Dale, it is a big code I wrote for my client under NDA. In smaller examples it is working perfectly. I am not allowed to send out the big code. I am assuming I did some mistake while feeding data into the conduit.

Yes it is hitting the breakpoint and working perfectly fine. I know now exact problem. I have point cloud, which should change position. The PointCloud is storing all point data from past positions.

When I say PointCloud.dispose() , it wipe out completely.

If I say cloud=new PointCloud(); before adding new position, it wipe out all point cloud again.

I have to find where I am feeding all past positions of the point cloud and stacking them all together. The code has a complex data structure and somewhere I did the mistake, trying to find.

Dale, you are correct. After some modification, when I thought the code is correct now, it is not hitting the breakpoint in conduit drawing code, when I am going through

doc.views.Redraw(); with a loop, which is changing point cloud positions.

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