What makes Core Temp unique is the way it works. It is capable of displaying a temperature of each individual core of every processor in your system. You can see temperature fluctuations in real time with varying workloads.
Core Temp supports most modern processors from Intel, AMD and VIA. All Intel Core, Atom, Celeron, Pentium and Xeon series. AMD Ryzen, Epyc, FX, APU, Athlon, Turion, Sempron and Opteron as well. VIA Nano and C7 series.
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Intel processors starting with the "Core" series all the way up to the newest Core i7, including all the derivatives. AMD processors starting with the first Athlon64 and Opteron processor series, all Phenom and AMD's new APU are supported. VIA processors starting with the C7 generation of CPUs, including all the derivatives based on the C7 architecture. All of the Nano based processors are supported as well.
The temperature readings are very accurate as the data is collected directly from a Digital Thermal Sensor (or DTS) which is located in each individual processing core*, near the hottest part. This sensor is digital, which means it doesn't rely on an external circuit located on the motherboard to report temperature, its value is stored in a special register in the processor so that software can access and read it. This eliminates any inaccuracies that can be introduced by external motherboard circuits and sensors.
I purchased a Geekom Mini IT8 back in April. It uses an Intel Core i5-8259U that is clocked nominally at 2.3GHz, but supports Turbo-Boost under 100% load up to 3.8GHz. The system is shipped with Windows 11 with Turbo-Boost enabled (i.e.: Maximum Processor State = 100%.)
When I run a program that pushes all 4 cores (or all 8 threads) to 100% (for example HandBrake converting an H264 video, or the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool), and measure core temperature with the Core Temp (1.17.1) utility, I see that cores 0 and 2 almost instantaneously run up from 40-50 degrees Celsius (computer idle) to 95-100 degrees Celsius; cores 1 and 3 hover in the 80-90 degrees Celsius range. Since TjMax for this processor is 100 degrees Celsius, I am more than a little bit concerned.
After approximately a minute with cores 0 and 2 at that high temperature, the processor throttles down to less than 3.8GHz (with an accompanying decrease in thruput) and those core temps drop into the low to mid 90s, which is still very high according to the internet.
So my question is: Will running HandBrake for a half hour to an hour now and then and allowing those cores to run at such high temperatures be detrimental to my processor (i.e. will its lifetime be reduced or can I expect it to fail prematurely)? Of course other programs may also, from time to time, use 100% of all 8 threads, but are not as likely to run that way for long periods of time.
Regarding heat sinking in the Geekom IT8 Mini, it is to my mind a bit strange. There is a fan which sits on top of the heatsinked CPU and GPU that pushes air (at a good clip when temperatures are running high) through a finned copper heat exchanger and out the back of the case. But the heat exchanger is remote from the chips (that is, not on top of them) with copper plates on top of the chips and a strange arrangement to conduct the heat to the heat exchanger. Here is a picture of this arrangement (with the fan removed):
It is worrying that the processor is reaching those high temperatures, since as you mentioned, the Tjmax for this processor is 100 C, and it may cause the processor to shut down. We recommend the following:
We recommend following the instructions provided by the manufacturer, as they are indicating it will potentially solve the issue. From our side, we can give you recommendations on how to avoid overheating, but we cannot discard it may be related to a hardware or BIOS issue.
Today I installed the BIOS update the manufacturer sent me, following the instructions in a followup email from them. When the flash process was finished, I pressed ESC during bootup to enter the BIOS setup screen. They had said there would be a new option on the main page called "Fan Policy Select". There was no such option. Furthermore, the BIOS ID and date remained the same as before (U0TB1 12//31/2021). When I let it boot into Windows and re-enabled Turbo-Boost (by setting Windows power setting "Maximum Processor State" to 100%) and ran Handbrake converting an MP4 video, core temperatures for cores 0 and 2 again went straight to near-or-at 100 degrees Celsius and stayed there for at least a minute before the processor throttled down to 2.3GHz, and the temperatures dropped back into the 80-90 degrees Celcius range. The fan speed did not appear or sound any faster than before I flashed the BIOS.
In the meantime, I discovered something quite unusual. Although I am running with Windows power parameter "Maximum Processor State" at 99%, effectively disabling the processor from going into Turbo-Boost (i.e. running at 3.8GHz), I found that whenever I had Microsoft Edge running at the same time as Handbrake was rendering, the core temps once again went up to 100 and the processor started running well above 2.3GHz! As it turns out, to disable Turbo-Boost completely, it is ALSO necessary to go into Microsoft Edge settings and disable "Startup boost" and "Use hardware acceleration when available" under System and Performance; otherwise Edge overrides the power setting and forces the processor into Turbo-Boost mode whenever the Edge window has focus.
So now with those two disabled and the Maximum Processor State set at 99%, I believe I've made my system safe to run (without overheating) at some sacrifice in performance. Hopefully the manufacturer will come through with some other sort of solution. I'm not really missing the performance that much, but it's just a shame I paid for a processor with Turbo-Boost and I need to disable it to run safely.
I am glad to know you are able to use your processor without overheating, but I agree you should not be having overheating issues even if Turbo-Boost is enabled, unless there is an issue with the processor/hardware or a limitation set by the manufacturer. Taking this into consideration, our best recommendation is to wait for the manufacturer response about the BIOS update.
The perplexing part is that the increase in core 0 and 2 temperatures to-or-near 100 degrees celsius is instantaneous when 100% CPU load is imposed on all cores and TURBO-BOOST is enabled. It is hard to understand how a heatsink on the outside of the chip package and a gradually increasing fan speed through the heat exchanger could counter such an instantaneous temperature increase inside the package at the processing core. It seems to be more of a chip issue than a cooling issue.
So for now, I'll leave TURBO-BOOST disabled in Windows and use EC BIOS 1.45. And I'll post in another forum where Geekom IT8 users may be following that it might be wise for others to use Core Temp 1.17.1 to check if their Geekom IT8s are experiencing high core temps.
At this point, after trying several BIOS, it could definitely be an issue with the CPU. Our best recommendation is to apply for some sort of warranty if available, or keep troubleshooting with the manufacturer.
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issue: idle CPU Temperature around 30C, But while playing games the temperature around 97C
is the temperature normal ?
or do i have to buy new fan ?
i uploaded 2 screenshots idle and gaming temp in core temp 1.16 app
The maximum temperature allowed for this processor is 100C, you have high temperatures but it's not going above specifications. We need more information from your system to identify the possible cause of this problem, please share with us the following information:
I found that my fan is not setting correctly, and I think my fan missing piece
I will go back to the store, if they didn't solve the problem I will ask you againĀ
thank you for the respond and sorry or bothering you
You don't necessarily need to turn XMP off, but you need to make sure the RAM speed doesn't go above 2666MHz. If you need any additional information, please submit a new question as this thread will no longer be monitored.
I'm using 1.16 and this version never had the bug at least.
Use other probing utilities to double check if the boards sensors are at least ok.
Hardware info sensors only
OCCT and stress test
Utilities from your manufacturer, EG: ASUS Armoury Crate or MSI Afterburner (this last one works for everyone)
This is either a serious hardware failure or conflicting software. If it is the latter you may be lucky or you may have been hit with one of the old school Trojan Viruses that literally try to make your PC hardware cook itself by pegging the clock speeds on all hardware till the system fries. This latter is very unlikely but it isn't impossible.
Check your PSU take it out of the case and give it a good smell. If you smell that acrid scent of burnt electronics or the same smell you encounter around welders/metal workers also known as ozone. Burning metal gives off O3 and copper being the primary component in PSU will give a very noticeable odor.
236C is hot enough to soften gold. Gold is the primary metal used in construction of CPU's if that temperature was actually reached I'm sorry to say but both the CPU and MOBO are scrap even your storage devices ram and GPU may have taken moderate to severe damage. 152ee80cbc
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