Double Buzz Surven Results Round 3
As of March 4, 2019
These results are manually posted by me every so often. They are not updated automatically when someone fills out the survey.
Comments from Participants
> The old mouthpiece wasn't dirty or damaged, so I'm still not sure what was going on. The mouthpiece switch solved it immediately.
> For me the double buzz was in the staff, specifically for the notes C# up to E. I realized I wasn't using my tongue level correctly and started to use more of the sylable change of "ah" to "eeh" (tongue level change really) when going higher than middle C. This solved the problem.
> Lucinda Lewis rehab program is described on her website, http://www.embouchures.com and in the books she sells there.
> It usually happens when I'm okay forte +
> I get a double buzz when A) I am out of shape and B) When I am very fatigued. When I'm in shape and not too far over-extended, it doesn't happen.
> For me it was setting too low. I was playing in the low register way too relaxed. I needed to find a balance between 3 things for the solution: Firmer corners, tongue position a bit higher, and abdominal support. Essentially, pretending that I was going to play a middle C got the double buzz on my low C to go away.
> My double buzz experience has happened in 2 different periods over the last 4 years, about 6 months into my comeback after a 14 year hiatus, and about 8 months ago. The first time occurred during a period in which I was trying different horns, mouthpiece cups, throats and backbores for my new performing experiences. The double buzz seemed to happen mostly when playing Bb trumpet, never while playing C trumpet (same mouthpiece setup). Once I settled into a regular routine of horn and mouthpiece setup, the double buzz just seemed to disappear. The second time was during a period of breaking in a (new to me) Flugelhorn and mouthpiece setup. I used the same rim that I always used but a much deeper cup. The double buzz, once again, seemed to disappear once I got the new piece into my regular routine. I also added sections of the Bai Lin Lip Flexibilities into my daily warm-up and practice routine during the same period and have not experienced the double buzz since.
> Thanks for doing this!
> "Killing the feel" of the double buzz was huge. Stopping just short of the place where it usually happened and taking a brief rest before continuing played a large part in erasing this annoyance. My trouble area was (and is if I get careless) F# and G right at the top of the staff. Lots of buzzing (no mouthpiece or horn) between practice and playing sessions also improved my sound by leaps and bounds. I also do the pencil exercise regularly.
> This was totally cured by doing daily slow legato (dahgahdahgah) multiple tonguing out of Arban at a volume of mf or higher with a rich resonant tone. With frequent rests. No other changes were required. It took about 5 days to fix things forever. Endurance also increased dramatically.
> I am a come back player. Over time, as my emboucher got stronger the buzz improved (less buzz).
> For me, the more I worried and tried to dissect it, the worse it became. I used a combination of properly resting while practicing on top of quiet playing
> Excellent topic for a survey. Double buzzing initially occurred when I came-back in 2015 after 20 or so years not playing. With the soft playing the double buzz started to disappear little by little and after a few months it completely went away. Coincidentally, soft playing routines have always been a part of my daily exercises but more so in recent years since a teacher introduced me to, and helped me with, the BE method. Yes, at first the double buzzing was very frustrating. I did some mouthpiece variations but that had no effect. So in retrospect I am glad I stuck with the soft playing. In the process, the soft playing helped my range and tonality. Hope this helps.
> I experience double buzzing problems very rarely. The notes that double buzz tend to be low C, middle G and especially middle G#. The double buzz only happens when I am playing a very large mouthpiece (Bach 1X, Schilke 19 or Bach Mt Vernon 1), and only when I have been playing a performing a lot every day (3 or more hours a day).
> Usually is associated with fatigue and/or overblowing
> It comes and goes. When I play strong it goes away, but soft and lyrically there it is. Showed up after invisiline straightening.
> I am currently experiencing a buzz while doing self-directed practice out of the Claude Gordon Systematic Approach book. I made it to lesson 8 before stopping to tackle this buzz. I experience no buzz below or above the high C partial. It only happened on A above the staff to High C. In addition to changing the mouthpiece rim, I focused on rollling my bottom lip in more in the affected register. Seems like the different mouthpiece rim broke my muscle memory enough to make a difference. The double buzz is dimishing with practice, and i actually experienced a further increase in my high range to above Double High C with a more rolled in setting.
> It happened to me after a lot of high and loud playing. A gentle warm up the next day or two alleviated the problem. Still happens occasionally, but soft and gentle playing resolves the issue.
> My issue with double buzz seems to occur when I am not focused on hearing the pitch and "singing" in the horn. In other words, if I'm guessing at where the note is I'm more likely to have problems. Slow lyrical warm ups and singing helped me greatly.
> It still lingers, but when I play strong and fill up the horn it goes away. I played lead on a production Annie outdoors. Played strong-not problem. Played a couple of big band gigs-no problem. Played a church gig and it was a problem. Played softer to blend. I haven't played for a while because of surgery. It will be interesting to see what happens when I get going again.
> A combination of gentle playing, mouthpiece work, and not reinforcing the behavior (stop playing and reset when experiencing double buzz) helped resolve the problem