ADDING MORE INFORMATION Roon has developed a lot in recent years so most albums link to more info but there is the chance to add more if desired, particularly to those unidentified. I concoct items (reviews, more pictures etc) using copy and paste in WORD, convert to PDF then add the item into the Windows Explorer folder. It then appears in Roon to be opened up from there.

Alternate cover graphic display. I design things using Publisher, convert to a jpg format, so it can then be inserted into the album when editing. At one stage I altered album display in sets so each one had a unique number or something else obvious in the graphics but am not doing this as much now because the Roon structure for the header allows more to be displayed there to identify particular albums in a set. But the option is there if you have the time and inspiration.


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I follow similar rules and always amend the metadata to conform to these rules whether on my own digital downloads (or less strictly) for any streaming content that I save (of course this is one thing that Roon facilitates).

I, too, go back all the way to Meridian Sooloos and now have about 700,000 tracks in my library and one of the things I love about Roon is that its data base and search are so good that I have no need to do all this work!

as is apparent from my moniker, I work for a company that has been involved with music metadata for nearly 30 years. around 2004, the music critic and composer Greg Sandow wrote an article for the WSJ bemoaning the state of classical music metadata, and the effect this would have on the visibility of classical music in the digital domain.

The centerpiece of the Classical Standard is the Three-Line Solution (TLS). The single most vexing problem in providing classical music data has been the equivalent of making a square set of data components fit into an existing triangular set of data fields (the pop paradigm mentioned above). To provide an informed listening experience for classical fans, a media player must list four basic data components: Composer, Recording Artist, Album Title and Track Title. At the moment, the vast majority of media players provide only three fields. The problem is complicated by the need to devise a system in which existing data is not corrupted and one that will be elastic enough in its design to accommodate future innovations in the form of tools, forms, programs and end products. TLS addresses all these and resolves them.

The concept of putting the composers name in the Album Name and Track Name fields, delineated by a colon, was part of the TLS standard. Gracenote provided these standards to the labels (and in many cases worked directly with the labels to define the standards), who in turn used them when they submitted recordings to digital services.

Roon already parses track tiltes for instrumentation information. I think the current implementation is just too short-sighted and the ability to have and add to performance instrumentation is currently missing. Instrumental, acapella and unplugged special performances often carry that information in the track tile. Sadly though Roon ignored that information completely in the past and additionally also often decided to not display such and other track/performance related data (given in parenthesis mostly).

By default, room seems to order soloist / orchestra / conductor alphabetically, so that creates a navigation jumble from my perspective. So unless I am lucky and the alphabetic ordering follows convention out of the box, this is a grooming step I take pretty much every time I upload an album or add to library from qobuz.

This is a very good example of the solution hiding in plain sight but because the logic is very much from an IT developers way of thinking rather than a (Classical) listeners perspective the feature may as well not be there for someone like myself. I have no idea why roon would assume this is intuitive or obvious? Maybe some have discovered this trick. It never occurred to me, not for a moment as I simply do not think that way.

These tags are extremely patchy and unsystematic in the roon meta-data. So even in the existing Composition view, this feature never full-filled its promise. There were lengthy posts on this topic years ago and feature requests (maybe as much as 5 years a go). Nothing ever happened and roon never revisited the topic, so I am surprised to see it coming up now. Personally I never use this feature in the composition view because of the manual grooming effort involved to make it useful and just evolved the system of tags above to do the same thing.

DG still insist on putting Artist = Composer often not even putting the actual Artist anywhere. Until that stops and ALL record labels use tags for Conductors, Orchestras, Choirs etc , heaven forbid Composition/Movement . Pigs May Fly

I was certainly not a fan of the move by roon to default to native language artist forms over the last year or so. That triggered a several man-months grooming exercise for me, otherwise my library had been rendered unnavigable by this change.

I am thinking of upgrading to a paid Pandora subscription, but I have real problems with your programming. I like to mostly listen to Classical Music, but your programming really is very poor! In several instances I have heard the same composition three times in a row. Sometimes I have heard the same composition by the same composer and artist 2 times in one hour. And I don't know how many times I have heard 4 or 5 selections by the same composer, in a row. Ask any radio station's Music Director, and they will tell you that is BAD PROGRAMMING! I was a music director for many years. It is very frustrating to hear such poor programming parctices!

Also, it is very disturbing to be listening to a gentle rendition of a classical selection, and then be shook awake by a commercial blasting away at 2 to 3 times the decibel level of the music! That is just unforgiveable Enginering and Production practice.

Hearing what our listeners have to say is extremely valuable to us, and it means a lot that you care enough to speak up. In the meantime, I moved your post over to the My Collection board to keep the community organized.

We know ads can be disruptive to the listening experience. One thing to keep in mind is that music has a much wider dynamic range (the difference in volume between the softest and loudest parts) in comparison to ads. As a result, only the loudest parts of songs may sound as loud as commercials (which by design have little dynamic range).Dynamic differences between music and ads can also vary based on the genre of music or when the track was recorded. Unfortunately, we do not have the ability to change the volume of ads dependent upon the station on which they play.

We are continually working on ways to present classical music on Pandora radio stations in a more appropriate manner.On that note, we now have a station dedicated to full classical works that you can check out here.Also, you may be interested in this article from our blog discussing some interesting things about the evolution of Pandora's classical selection.

Quit Pandora. There are options out there. This is a poor excuse for a music channel....far too repetitive and selections are not 'on type' for what is requested. classical selected and i get rock or pop...just unacceptable.

I like Pandora a lot and listen to it daily. For me, the $5/mth for no ads is worth it. However, the issue of variety in classical music is still an issue. I enjoy "Bach to rock" and will shuffle at random 5 stations from my collection. When a general classical station (such as an orchestra) is selected, you can count on the same 3 or 4 tracks from 19th/20th century Russian composers not only making an appearance but will repeat in the course of a couple of hours (they are not 'thumbed" and they won't even be performed by the orchestra of the station selected). The genre is way too great, rich, and varied to have to hear principal theme from Swan Lake more than one time in a session, not to mention the recorded output from orchestras like the Berlin Phil or the San Francisco Symphony.

I have the same problem with classical music..............because it's organized by the title and performer or orchestra, not by the composer as it should be. Yesterday I heard Jupiter from the Planets 4 times within one hour.

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