Just a note. My goats are on pasture. My pastures are a mix of Midland Bermuda, crabgrass, native grass and of course weeds. There are also plenty of Oak, Elm, and other trees that they trim up for me. I plant Elbon Rye in the Fall which carries them through May or June with the feeding of Crabgrass hay and a couple handfulls of Chaffhaye and a couple of cups of whole oats per day during the winter. My kids start creep at about six weeks of age. I use dual worming after performing FAMACHA and getting a Fecal exam. My soil is sandy and drains well.