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From: Joel Smith <joel-aa@antelope.net> To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange   “Articles of Understanding" Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:10:24 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3)  On May 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:  >> Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange ╲Articles of Understanding"  This is offensive on many levels.  It also reaks of trying to build "common ground" to expand membership.  Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe this really will change curebies minds and   such, but I tend to doubt that.

From: Joel Smith <joel-aa@antelope.net>

To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange “Articles of Understanding"

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:10:24 -0600

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On May 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:


>> Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange ╲Articles of Understanding"


This is offensive on many levels.


It also reaks of trying to build "common ground" to expand membership.


Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe this really will change curebies minds and

such, but I tend to doubt that.

From: "Larry Arnold" <laurentius@rexx.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange   â?oArticles of Understanding" Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:25:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)  I am all for dialogue, but whatever common ground lies between those two, it is more likely to be dividing the turf between two rival gangs.  Larry  > -----Original Message----- > From: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf  Of Joel Smith > Sent: 17 May 2006 16:10  To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange Articles of Understanding" On May 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote: This is offensive on many levels. It also reaks of trying to build "common ground" to expand membership.  Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe this really will change curebies minds and  such, but I tend to doubt that.  Yahoo! Groups Links

From: "Larry Arnold" <laurentius@rexx.fsbusiness.co.uk>

To: <AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: RE: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange â?oArticles of Understanding"

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:25:29 +0100

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I am all for dialogue, but whatever common ground lies between those two, it

is more likely to be dividing the turf between two rival gangs.


Larry


From: "Joe Mele" <joemele@gmail.com> To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com Subject:Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange “Articles of Understanding" Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:11:41 -0400  [EDITED BY MODERATOR: Please remember to clean up your posts.]  First off GRASP is not the largest organization. It has more professional and parents on its lists than anything else.  It is funny how autism speaks feels comfortable with him

From: "Joe Mele" <joemele@gmail.com>

To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com

Subject:Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: Autism Speaks and GRASP to Exchange “Articles of Understanding"

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:11:41 -0400


[EDITED BY MODERATOR: Please remember to clean up your posts.]


First off GRASP is not the largest organization. It has more professional

and parents on its lists than anything else.


It is funny how autism speaks feels comfortable with him


We got it done. Happy reading. Remember that > >Alison's article is the one meant for you, and > >that mine is meant for their audience. But of course you can read both. > > :-)  Is there any way of contacting Alison?  I mean, not that I expect genuinely to change the mind of someone who's said  for a national audience that she's thought about killing her kid and only  didn't do it because she had a non-autistic kid, but I have a website I want  to show her.  <grumble>  A M Baggs ambaggs@verizon.net

We got it done. Happy reading. Remember that

> >Alison's article is the one meant for you, and

> >that mine is meant for their audience. But of course you can read both.

> > :-)


Is there any way of contacting Alison?


I mean, not that I expect genuinely to change the mind of someone who's said

for a national audience that she's thought about killing her kid and only

didn't do it because she had a non-autistic kid, but I have a website I want

to show her.


<grumble>


--

A M Baggs

ambaggs@verizon.net


From: A M Baggs <ambaggs@verizon.net> To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of  Understanding" Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:13:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3  (Never mind, I found it.)  The following was my message to her (did not want to complicate the whole  thing by explaining my position on the matter):  Re: Cure is not a dirty word From: A M Baggs <ambaggs@verizon.net> To: asinger@autismspeaks.org Date: Today 08:11:42     Please read the following website all the way through:  http://www.gettingthetruthout.org/  --  A M Baggs ambaggs@verizon.net

From: A M Baggs <ambaggs@verizon.net>

To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of Understanding"

Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:13:16 -0400

User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3


(Never mind, I found it.)


The following was my message to her (did not want to complicate the whole

thing by explaining my position on the matter):


Re: Cure is not a dirty word

From: A M Baggs <ambaggs@verizon.net>

To: asinger@autismspeaks.org

Date: Today 08:11:42

Please read the following website all the way through:


http://www.gettingthetruthout.org/


--

A M Baggs

ambaggs@verizon.net


From: Joel Smith <joel-aa@antelope.net> To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of Understanding" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:49:40 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2)  Anyone else notice that Alison has nothing positive to say about her   kid?  Maybe that's what the difference between LFA and HFA is.  Whether or   not the parent likes stuff about their kid.

From: Joel Smith <joel-aa@antelope.net>

To: AutAdvo@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [AutAdvo] Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of Understanding"

Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:49:40 -0600

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Anyone else notice that Alison has nothing positive to say about her

kid?


Maybe that's what the difference between LFA and HFA is. Whether or

not the parent likes stuff about their kid.


From: "Ari N." <Aneeman@gmail.com> To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OFFLIST: Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of Understanding" Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:56:55 -0400  Sorry about that - sent this to the wrong address.  On 10/6/06, Ari N. <aneeman@gmail.com> wrote:   Dear Jypsy,  I saw this too - I find it concerning. I'm in the process of starting a different non-profit group to better represent the views of the autistic  community. I would be deeply honored if you could be involved. Please let me know if you'd like to learn more.   Regards,  Ari

From: "Ari N." <Aneeman@gmail.com>

To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: OFFLIST: Fwd: GRASP and Autism Speaks Release "Articles of Understanding"

Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:56:55 -0400


Sorry about that - sent this to the wrong address.


On 10/6/06, Ari N. <aneeman@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Jypsy,


I saw this too - I find it concerning. I'm in the process of starting a

different non-profit group to better represent the views of the autistic

community. I would be deeply honored if you could be involved. Please let me

know if you'd like to learn more.


Regards,

Ari