I am considering an aops prealgebra online class (have not decided on prealgebra 1 or 2) for my 4th grade son, who enjoys math and likes to participate in math competitions such as math counts, amc 8, etc. Since this class costs over $300 and requires regular time commitment, I am wondering if a student can learn the material by just studying the aops prealgebra book.

We just used the books for AoPS. My DD disliked Alumcus with a passion, so a class where that was the main delivery method and independent work would be a miss. The books are written to the student and are very self-teaching (I learned a lot). DD needed me there to talk through the math with more than to teach, and I doubt the online class would have changed that at 4th grade.


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Trabug, appreciate reading the benefits of the AoPS classes. I was just wondering how much of these benefits can be realized at a "beginner" class like prealgebra 1 or 2. My thinking was my son would finish a couple of books on his own for a while, and as he gets more advanced, he might start taking online classes, at which point he might be better positioned to take full advantage of what the aops online community offers. Do you think the benefits of the aops online community are still significant even for a class like prealgebra 1 or 2?

Appreciate reading the benefits of the AoPS classes. I was just wondering how much of these benefits can be realized at a "beginner" class like prealgebra 1 or 2. My thinking was my son would finish a couple of books on his own for a while, and as he gets more advanced, he might start taking online classes, at which point he might be better positioned to take full advantage of what the aops online community offers. Do you think the benefits of the aops online community are still significant even for a class like prealgebra 1 or 2?

I was just wondering how much of these benefits can be realized at a "beginner" class like prealgebra 1 or 2. My thinking was my son would finish a couple of books on his own for a while, and as he gets more advanced, he might start taking online classes, at which point he might be better positioned to take full advantage of what the aops online community offers. Do you think the benefits of the aops online community are still significant even for a class like prealgebra 1 or 2?

We only used AoPS online for the fun test prep classes like AMC and MathCounts. We otherwise only used the textbooks because at the time the only online option was super-fast paced, and I wanted to make sure my dd's didn't skip or speed through any material.

My son did the prealgebra and the Intro to Algebra content on his own. It is more flexible to do it that way because a structured class has weekly homework and my son had other commitments to sports and music and did not want to drop one thing for the other. He could easily keep up with the text in the books and rarely needed parental input. He became very independent and did not want a hovering parent for most of it. He finished Beast Academy and the Singapore Math sequence before starting the AOPS sequence which was adequate prep for him. I also bought the solutions manual for the books but we rarely used them.

We covered all the AoPS courses via textbooks only. The online classes move extremely fast; we preferred our kids to be able to learn at their own pace. They can acquire equal depth by studying from the books, which are written to the students and designed to be used without a teacher.

Our online books offer the same content as our print books. The online books work directly in your web browser: there is no additional software to download. (Students must be signed onto the AoPS website to access an online book.) Students will have immediate access to the online book upon purchase: no waiting for a print book to be shipped.

Our online books include all the material from our print books, along with new interactive features. There's no additional software to download: our online books work directly in your web browser, and students will have immediate access to all of their purchased online books when they sign on to the AoPS website. (If your student doesn't yet have a free AoPS account, get one here.)

The core material is the same; the chapters, sections, and problems are the same in the printed and online versions of the books. So, for example, a teacher could safely assign readings and homework to a class in which some students have the online book and others have the printed book. However, there are some wording and format differences to optimize the presentation on various devices.

One key difference between the online and printed versions is direct access from the books to supplementary material such as the AoPS Community, AoPS Videos, and Alcumus. (Videos and Alcumus are not available in all online books.)

Yes, full solutions are available to all problems in every online book. While the solutions manuals are sold separately in printed book sales, the solutions are included with every online book sale. Teachers who are using the online books in a school setting will have the ability turn off access to the solutions.

Alcumus is available for all of our Introduction-level books: Prealgebra, Introduction to Algebra, Introduction to Counting & Probability, Introduction to Geometry, and Introduction to Number Theory.

The Community feature of the online books is provided for students to interact with each other, not with AoPS staff. Students wishing to work with AoPS instructors should enroll in one of our online classes.

I don't plan to go into olympiad-style competitions, but I would like to be able to attack problems easier. However, when I look through these books, they just look like ordinary textbooks, only a bit more conversational.

I would like to ask, how does one use the AOPS books, are they meant to be supplementary to a full textbook? Or are they used for introducing new concepts that you would have leant in a textbook etc. I would like advice on how to get the most out of the Art of problem solving books, as a self learner that is.

The AoPS subject books (Prealgebra, Introduction to Algebra, etc) are meant to be stand-alone textbooks which you can learn from without using another textbook. That said, they are intended for dedicated students who will work hard and learn relatively quickly. They do not have many routine practice problems, and instead have mainly more challenging problems which force students to think hard and explore the concepts more deeply. A weaker student may prefer a more traditional textbook, to use either instead of or in conjunction with an AoPS book. AoPS books also tend to be less useful as definitive references than traditional textbooks: you will find fewer well-organized statements of important facts and identities and theorems in them (though I think this is more relevant to the more advanced books than it is to Prealgebra).

Art of Problem Solving was founded by Richard Rusczyk in 2003 to createinteractive educational opportunities for avid math students. Richardis the author or a co-author of 7 AoPS textbooks and a past Director ofthe USA Mathematical Talent Search. He was a participant in NationalMATHCOUNTS, a three-time participant in the Math Olympiad SummerProgram, and a USA Mathematical Olympiad winner (1989). He received theWorld Federation of National Mathematics Competitions Paul Erds Awardin 2014. He graduated from Princeton University in 1993, and worked asa bond trader for D.E. Shaw & Company for four years. AoPS marksRichard's return to his vocation - educating motivated students.

Dave joined AoPS in 2004. He is the author or a co-author of 4 AoPStextbooks. Dave earned the sole perfect score on the American HighSchool Mathematics Examination (AHSME) in 1988 and was a USAMathematical Olympiad winner that year. He attended the ResearchScience Institute (RSI) in 1987, and the Math Olympiad Summer Programin 1988, where he first met fellow student Richard Rusczyk. He alsofinished in the top 10 on the Putnam exam in 1991. Dave graduated fromCarnegie Mellon in 1992 with a BS in Mathematics/Computer Science andan MS in Mathematics. He went on to earn his Ph.D. in mathematics fromMIT in 1997. He was an acting Assistant Professor at the University ofWashington from 1997 to 2001. Dave is originally from Western New Yorkand is an alumnus of the SUNY Buffalo Gifted Math Program.

Robert is a Senior Instructor for AoPS Academy Bellevue. He has been teaching for over fifteen years and has taught in four different countries outside of the United States. He has enjoyed being exposed to the many cultures and ways that foreign students learn math. He was educated at both the University of Washington and Washington State University and holds a master's degree in education as well as two undergraduate degrees in mathematics and statistics. His love of math was inspired by his early reading of books on astronomy, the artwork of M.C. Escher, and the many road atlases that his grandparents would gift to him at Christmas. Problem solving and puzzles are big interests of his and he enjoys seeing all the the ways our students approach the subject. He hopes to share his experience and learn from his fellow teachers in his new Senior Instructor role.

Rosemary's interest in mathematics began in high school, when she bought textbooks from Art of Problem Solving and learned that math could be more challenging, creative, and rewarding than what she was taught in school. She pursued her passion through math contests, including the USA Mathematical Olympiad, and at Canada/USA Mathcamp. She then enrolled at the University of Chicago, where she earned a bachelor's degree in mathematics with honors and a master's degree in computer science, with an interest in theoretical computer science. During that time, she shared her passion for math by teaching, TAing, and tutoring math and computer science subjects from middle school to graduate level. Rosemary is excited to come back to where it all began for her and share her passion with a new generation of students. In her free time, she enjoys reading history and watching movies. ff782bc1db

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