28 inch f4 alt-az photo and design page

-updated February 2021 -

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Please note that the 2016 drive update supersedes some of the items posted below. I've marked where this is applicable, but you might want to visit this page first to see the changes: 2016 drive update for the 28-inch scope

Two end-to-end crossflow fans (also called squirrel cage fans) blow a flat stream of air (illustrated by the blue arrows) across the front surface of the mirror, which exits out the exhaust door to minimize turbulence. This has proven to be much more effective at quickly cooling the mirror, and doing so evenly, than the two traditional muffin fans attached to the back of the mirror cell. By the way, the primary mirror was figured by Steve Kennedy of Kennedy Optics and is the best optic I've ever had. It's from the first batch of 28 inch f/4 mirrors he produced in 2004, and he was a delight to deal with.

Complete Ventilation System update

The front surface crossflow fans were replaced in 2020. I updated the entire back end of the scope by following Ed Allen's Complete Air Ventilation System which pulls in air through a HEPA filer attached to the back plate of the scope and circulates it around the back, sides and front surface of the mirror with three small radial fans installed inside the HEPA filter.

My primary reason for this upgrade is to see if this back-to-front air circulation system will keep the spray silver coating on the 28-inch mirror from developing spots from atmospheric contamination. Stay tuned, time will tell...

These photos shows the general layout of the complete ventilation system. The three radial fans pull outside air through through the HEPA filter and circulate the filtered air around the primary mirror, back to front, with the key feature of the deflection ring that directs the airflow evenly over the front surface of the mirror. This airflow meets in the center of the mirror and is pushed out from the mirror toward the diagonal mirror.

The deflection ring was the most time consuming piece to make. I used an 8-foot long piece of flexible cove molding that I sanded to the correct profile, then attached to backside of the front plate of the mirror box using super glue.

The edge of the deflection ring is about 6mm from the top edge of the mirror, which seems to give the best airflow across the mirror.

The two black, rectangular boxes in the photo directly below are lithium-ion batteries - one to run the radial fans and the other for the diagonal mirror dew heater.

The back plate of the mirror box has three holes - one for each radial fan - to blow the HEPA filtered air into the mirror box.


Please note the big azimuth drive belt and the huge slip clutches have been replaced by the 2016 drive update for the 28-inch scope .

The closeup photo below shows the previous configuration of the azimuth drive. It's essentially a big timing belt - the belt is wrapped around the circular edge of the azimuth ground board with the teeth facing inward while also engaged by the sprocket on the end of the azimuth drive shaft. This arrangement essentially eliminates backlash and is silky smooth.

The large disc at the top of the drive shaft is part of the slip clutch - look closely and you'll see a smaller disc underneath it. Ebony star and Teflon are between the two discs, and tension is supplies by the spring at the top of the drive shaft.

The edge of the azimuth ground board is edged with non-slip tape (essentially sandpaper) to make sure the belt doesn't slip. There's about 100 pounds of tension in the belt so this might seem like overkill, but depending on how tight the clutch is set, it can actually slip. On windy nights it's helpful to tighten the clutches so the wind can't move the scope off target, so this turns out to be important.

I've found the azimuth drive belt and configuration to be the most difficult part of the scope to perfect. The key turns out to be a non-stretch belt. I used a Gates Polychain belt (which is reinforced with carbon fiber) and matching sprocket, which turns out to be one of the more expensive options. At this point the azimuth drive is not only smooth and reliable, but it's also quite robust. The only detectable backlash in the system now is in the servo motors themselves and is quite small.

By the way, it might appear from the photo that the drive sprocket is also in contact with the perimeter of the azimuth ground board. There's actually about .125 inch clearance.

The next photo shows my first attempt to use the azimuth belt wrapped around the azimuth ground board with the teeth facing outward like a huge gear. It's the same belt as above - the teeth side of the belt is blue.

This worked ok but had the drawback of not being precise enough so the teeth would engage the drive shaft pulley with EXACTLY the same tension all the way around. It only took a thousandth or two (of an inch) make a difference! I tried floating the drive shaft on springs so it would engage the teeth more uniformly and although an improvement it wasn't as good as I hoped.

A close up view of the mirror cell collimation bolts design. The important point about the mirror cell - a design I copied from Dan Gray - is that the collimation bolts move the mirror cell and mirror together, not just the mirror. This eliminates the build up of edge stress that moving only the mirror can cause. The photo shows that the collimation bolt is fixed between two brackets and the mirror cell frame moves between them. A rounded "nut" made of Delrin plastic has a threaded hole through it that the collimation bolts are threaded through and provide the small bit of compliance needed so the cell can be easily adjusted. You can see the edge of the Delrin nut as the small bit of white sticking out from the end of the mirror cell.

This view shows one of the triangle support arms and the main reason the mirror cell is low profile - the arm pivots on the bolt that goes through its center. The support triangles end up about .125 inch above the mirror cell frame.

The Sidereal Technology (SiTech) controller box, once aligned, allows the scope to be moved manually like a Dob and still know where it's pointing. This lets the scope be pushed around like a Dob and yet track all night. It can also be used with an Argo Navis or Sky Commander for goto's, or for extremely accurate goto with a laptop. SiTech also sells compact clutch boxes allowing them to be neatly tucked away, not the big homemade discs seen on my scope. I'm a huge fan not only of the SiTech system but of Dan Gray too!

I had originally designed my scope to ride on an equatorial platform but the SiTech "DragNtrack" mode allows me to use the scope as if it were on an equatorial platform that never needs to be reset. As a visual observer I'm not bothered by field rotation so SiTech was the ideal solution for this scope. Plus, it's nice not to have a huge equatorial platform to deal with.

Underneath the focuser is a filter wheel from Aurora Precision that has room for four 2 inch filters along an empty space for non-filtered viewing. This is a great way to use filters because they're always right there - just turn the wheel to the filter of choice. However, it's not good for blinking because each filter changes focus a little. I have a cover (made from ABS plastic) over the wheel so the filters aren't exposed to the night air to prevent them from dewing over. In 15 years of use they have yet to fog over.

This upside down view of the cage shows the tennis racket grips I installed on the cage tubes. They make a comfortable, secure grip on even the coldest night.


The view of the 28-inch from the top of my eight foot orchard ladder. The only functional thing to note is that this is how the scope is situated during the day at a star party so any strong wind will only turn it in azimuth rather than blow it over. Other than that, this is just a cool photo!

This is a jpg version of the design file and is available at the bottom of this page as a download in either .tcw or .dxf formats. The files are the same, only the formats are different, but it's important to note that the actual scope is about 90% accurate to the drawing. I made a few changes on the fly and have not updated the file, but a careful examination of the photos here will show the differences, which are mostly in the azimuth ground board.

This was the first time I'd used a 2D CAD program to design anything and I'm thrilled about the results, mostly because everything fit together on the first attempt.

This is the map of mirror distortion from PLOP for the 18 point mirror cell.

A close up of the mirror cell and frame from the 2D files below.

I found this especially instructive. This is a close up of the altitude trunnions and I include it here as an illustration of the amount of dimensions needed for a local machine shop to cut them out with a water jet machine. I think it took me three tries to get them enough measurements.

This photo shows the mirror cell collimation bolt along with its matching Delrin nut. You can see that it's not rounded much, just enough so it can slightly rotate inside the ends of the mirror cell bracket to allow the mirror cell to move when the collimation bolts are turned. There's no looseness after 17 years of use.

The truss tube clamps are from Aurora Precision. They're available in either Delrin or aluminum, and I've tried both. I prefer the aluminum version because they produce a tighter clamping force on the truss tubes. Delrin works best on smaller scopes. These have since been replaced by Aurora Precision's truss brackets Aurora Precision truss brackets because the clamps can slip when the scope is set up for several days.

A view of the back end shows the primary mirror baffle and the 25 inch cutout to allow air flow. The hole is covered by window screening to keep out bugs, which so far has really worked well. Note the three collimation knobs.

After recoating the 28-inch mirror with the Angel Gliding spray silver kit in July 2018, I sealed up the back of the mirror box and added a desiccant box and an anti-tarnish cloth to help slow down tarnishing. To get an idea how to spray silver a mirror, check out Angle Gliding's video at Angel Gilding pump-spray-kit-video

Check out this Cloudy Nights thread about spray silvering in general: Spray silvering your own mirror

Also note this has been upgraded to Ed Allen's Forced Air Ventilation system as noted above.

The rocker rides on three conical wheels, turned down from 95 durometer urethane skateboard wheels. Each wheel has two sets of abec 5 bearings and uses a precision stainless steel shoulder bolt as an axle - very smooth. It's important the wheels are conical - i.e. their vertex is at the azimuth center of rotation - so there's no binding against the bottom of the rocker. Note how the wheel bracket is shimmed so the wheel rides flat on the bottom of the rocker. These wheels were replaced during the 2016 drive update: 2016 drive update for the 28-inch scope

Yes, my diagonal mirror is very dirty in this photo, but pay attention to the short piece of 5 inch PVC pipe on the left. Four slots were cut in the PVC so it could be press fit over the spider arms, effectively reducing their length to vibrate - it really helps on a windy night.

Ready for action at the 2010 Golden State Star Party near Adin, California! The scope breaks down and fits in the back of the van along with all my other observing and camping stuff. Check out the teardown video page to see how this is done.

I've had a bigger van since 2014, but the process of loading and unloading the scope is almost exactly the same. Here's the van and scope at Logan Valley in July 2020.