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Well, here trend story: 2nd name can be called 'Counting Words'Happy reading )
Frankly, without to not mention this I can't.., because I think thatAll chess friends have to know the reality about what is going on!
1st of all,M.Z can be not bad in programming, and his site can be useful for some..But I have to admit also that he is a very dangerous man! in other words:Be careful..he may stabbed you in the back! once I'm burned from him...You may be burned too...for anyone missed, interested for more: Details
To be more clear,M.Z is flying so high that he has own forum and engine..yes he loves to make Warnings Such as he may ban any member/s..yes, actually he does...e.g many innocent suffered..But there is one true, he is lost his prestige for sure! at least in my eyes!
On other hand,Let's say, I'm bad, wrong..where bOsS (M.Z) is good, honest etc. then just one simple question:Why M.Z (plus Mods) were passive on days, when Official member was attacking Me: Details ?? Note: after checking..it seems some of Unofficial attacks are removed later (by Mod/s) however,Forget banning..even there was no any warning..who knows? maybe he or mods waited byMe to make a mistake? so later M.Z would warn Me...because I expect everything from him !!Btw, behind the Official fake member was Chris/Deeds (a friend of M.Z plus he admits: Details)Ok.what about rest authorities? All were busy? And if M.Z is brave, honest... can Contact Me!Later I promise.. I will write his comments, replay here etc..Btw, thanks in advance! if not clear:Was the drama so interesting (for Outskirts admin e.g when Official was attacking Me.) ?? A note for M.Z: I made thousands of postings on your site...at least once do this favor..but on my site!
Now who may talk that his RULES as serious, strict forum rules?? But just in this case..my replay will be simply such as: 'COME ON'
Btw, actually, I've made as serious mistake that simply such as After all I've continued as very frequent Outskirts forum member..But better late than never! and now I'm as free as a bird.. really!No warnings, No banning, No chains, otherwise it's ungrateful toAsk for more than that..right ?)
What I can say more over these funny issues?! Double standards, not professional, no more no less! Because,When the same Official member is attacked other forum member/s,E.g to Mr. Oliprog, Mr. Peter then this Official was banned....hehe ))Really no words to say exc. M.Z's actions are like 10 years old boy!But if we place one's cards on the table, Mr. Angel Morano is playedAs serious role...otherwise very likely Official would be not banned!Plus my 6th strong sense says also that Mr. Hurnavich is tired to fixM.Z's mistakes and let's hope for less mistakes at least from now on!Otherwise exc. Me, who knows? other Outskirts members may leave!At present..he/they are warning/banning...but it all depends..actually I've worked very hard..even on his both forums and for many years!!But it seems my work was not enough to be VIP member (as others)And once more I say, sad indeed and very cheap actions !! why I sayLike that in my understanding: the forum rules should be same for all!But...here OoPs ))
As other very sad news...I was banned...and still I have no idea why.?!But later, after banning SugaR from SCCT: then I am pretty sure in thatAbout why my banned is removed...and this is as real fact! not papers !!Otherwise, without SugaR's banning, I'd be still remained as banned !)And all his actions indicate as childish behaviour !) not Me...ok ?)) plusNow we may ask ourselves: who is right who is wrong..picture is clear!I can talk more...but what will be changed?...because people who areOver than age 40...no much chances...so they will continue as before!While I am mentioning about 'ages'...my age is 52 so:
Continuing...))
Other bad example..recently M.Z invited Me to visit his forum Details I thought all will be friendly, but what happened? Ban Warnıngs Rules..Once more I've noticed that M.Z has no such skill as 'Professionalism' To be more clear, after all..he invited Me to see his Warnings..hehe))Anything more else? really our computer chess will be in danger if allWill be like him! and frankly, if there was no ban warnings etc..then This thread would not exist...but M.Z preferred that way..sometimesNot all in my hands...what did he expected? to be in silence.. sorry!Patience..patience.. but situation is become not bearable anymore!Btw, do you know SCCT rules? if not so clear !?) please read well:Yes...these kind of BRAINS will never learn...sad...and once more:M.Z is tried to fool Me as before that I can not share my site links...Ah pardon, The bOsS oN PaPeR (M.Z) can allow my site links only:If I share with many comments plus with FULL standings, games etc. Otherwise he does not accept (Btw, did M.Z ask my opinion? no.. )And what a joke?) ANYTHING MORE ELSE ?))) because otherwise,  We will need a very good program to count all my words...hehe )))Sure I mean before publishing my new postings on his chess forum!Btw, I admit also that M.Z was kind with Me in long period of time...But in latest years, why he is so much CHANGED? no idea...plus Nowadays he started to count my words (on his site),very strange!
Especially M.Z is started to show his real bad character, when Mr. Mehmet Karaman's engine (Kayra) appeared on scene, e.gOn those days: M.Z is become as madman, where he did not Allow Kayra's played games to be shared on Outskirts forum!Btw, another saying, which perfectly suits over these issues:Set a beggar on horseback and he'll ride to the devil And I wonder much, Why so much grudge, arrogance, hatred, selfishness, jealousy?Where is goodwill, tolerance, common sense, liking, respect? Sure I can try to understand, if SugaR is not based/clone engineOr his engine is created from scratched method, but even to be so..M.Z or other madman has no right to prohibit / to put in CHAINS us !!And all his nonsense is happened on the days: NNUE vs Book Btw,Did anyone see such stupidity, arrogance.. before? frankly I did not..Yes...I've seen so many injustices, jealousy etc. but this is absurd!And this is a fact, reality (not as joke) actually all on this thread areReal facts (not papers),you may know Me 20+ years online...I mean simply that so far, did you ever see a lie (by Me) ? Btw in those days, I kindly warned Mr. Hurnavich such as: M.Z has no any right of banning played engine games...!!And later if I caused a little bit over such as Kayra's games To be allowed sharing on Outskirts...then how happy I'mAnd I admit also that I've made another BIG mistake that I've continued as frequent member in those days...Btw,Do you see? I make mistakes too, not often but I make )And on the days (when Kayra's games were not allowed)Another true evidence: M.Z ran a Simex2 test, such asShowing that Kayra engine is based/clone of Stockfish ))But probably M.Z forgot that SugaR is based/clone too ))Btw, nowadays the same guy (M.Z) is trying to fool us againE.g Simex2 is bad etc. in case of determining the similarities ))What a joke..it's clear that M.Z is lost his direction again! If not clear, when Kayra was on scene: why M.Z is paid muchAttention on his Simex2 results? in other words, once moreWe noticed that M.Z's brain how acts as cheap, childish etc.!
Meanwhile (some notes 'in green color' mainly for my good friends),Yes...Mr. Mehmet is good and kind that showed greatness e.gHe did not leave Outskirts forum (even after these bad events..)I wonder..what would have happened if they had done this to M.Z?An ambulance would definitely be called...))) 
What I can say more,Life is like a boomerang and everyone will get what he deserves..There is no such thing in this world..sooner or later GOOD wins!At least that's what usually happens, right ?)
And never pity to someone.. if you pity...you will become pitiful!M.Z tried his best to put Me in CHAINS..but it's not that so easy!!Because I've known more or less on these roads for a long time!At least enough to not go astray, not sure for bOsS oN PaPeR )
Plus, without to not mention this (as joke or true) I can't too:I wouldn't be too much surprised, if one day M.Z says like:All chess engines are based / clones, exception SugaR ))And it's forbidden testing all engines, exception SugaR ))You know, he proved himself..as beyond one's wildest dreams!
Btw, here is a good saying too: soft answer turneth away wrathFor example if I was in M.Z's shoes (about his web links rules) I'd try to say as, Dear Sedat, we worked together for a long time..Thank you very much for all...no doubt that you helped a lot....But since now, due to new rules: we do not allow any moreExternal links to other sites..exc. if all details will be here...And in the name of Outskirts, I am very sorry for the trouble...
Believe Me, (if M.Z would preferred in that kind, friendly way...)Sure I'd surprised..not easy..due to such funny rule never seen )But after all, sure I'd give understanding..because Outskirts chessForum is not mine! and probably I'd say as: sad..but no problem, And I promise to not share anymore my site links..good luck etc.(Btw, even in his dictatorial private mails... I tried in similar way..But what a pity M.Z did not...here good lessons but too late now)
In other words (if I was as admin in computer chess forum),I'd never prefer banning, warning..otherwise would be wrong, right?An innocent member, who works so hard for years..and banning himBtw, this is other absurd...and I'm still shocked...at least I've deserved Apologize, sure I can force no one, if his conscience is ok..no problem..Actually, I've expected a gold medal, instead of banning, warnings..))You know, normally should be compensation...if similar issues, right?
Yes...my work is free, but not so cheap as it looks..be sure also that, Many (including M.Z) can not imagine my efforts, which I spent..e.gM.Z is banned Me after some hours, when I've shared Unique suiteE.g his bullshit is started via complaining over Unique opening suite,Such as a mistake (via sharing my suite): it's out of Outskirt's rules..(Btw, do you see? it's not coincidence that Unique is different than all ))Actually the picture is perfectly clear! but if still not...please see here:Is not so disrespectful? work...work...on his chess forums (for years..)And one day...suddenly...you are looking at it...BAN.. that means:Humanity has been dead! (sure I mean for his side) Shame on M.Z!
Plus, in his 1st private message, I was quite affected...I expected that M.Z will congratulate Me or at least he could say 'thanks' to my new suite..E.g my fingers are already tired congratulating, saying thanks to others )Btw, maybe no 'thanks' option in private mails that's why he could not..))I mean all about MZ's 1st private mail etc. but later.. what we noticed ?)After a few replays...perhaps because I didn't accept his new link rules,He is preferred directly BAN )) but later...M.Z is tried to fool all..such as:I respect Sedat.. come on )) his face masked..but everything is so clear..Maybe only the naive ones may believe to his BULLSHIT)), By the way,On public forums, sure not so often e.g especially when he feels guilty..M.Z tries to speak so softly like he is 'angel' (sure angel with no wings)))But via private..or in reality etc. it's clear that he carries a BIG stick ))That's why I've lost my interest since months to be active on his forum...So..I'll try to stay far away...and this is best solution (at least for my side)Because M.Z clearly showed his dictatorship via private, reality is reality!Plus he tried to control my decision..as prove, even not asked my view!
And a few words more about his 2nd invitation (posted on OpenChess)Another disappointment, but one of the biggest ones..why I say like that:M.Z is perfectly aware of that I did not agree his links rules before...but Then why he invited Me? still I have no idea, maybe he missed Me a lot ))E.g for suitable cond. he had to offer better new rule..for agreement, right?Or simply he wanted to show his dictatorial style again...via warning etc.At least (in his comments) he may tried to say: sorry, pardon..but bOsS !Actually who knows?) perhaps M.Z expected an apologize from Me? ))As reason / mistake: I shared Unique suite with no FULL details etc. ))
On other hand, I'm so long time in chess, but who cares? no problem..Btw, even in my soldier years (at age 18-20), I got no banning etc..)Sure...if someone deserves a ban, warning .. that's other question..But if not...however, all right on the night, but at least now you knowMy point of view...plus:I can't afford injustice, I assume you too )
At the same time,Really there are some people, who have so much BIG ego thatThey think that without them, our chess hobby will be dead..))
Meanwhile, a small note more, without SF, Mr. Khalid Omar's ideas:SugaR would not be capable to learn well and strong as nowadays!!In short, Learning, Remembering etc. is nothing bad at all, right ?)
And let Me say also that Deeds is better than M.Z, if not so clear:It’s better to have an enemy, who frankly says that he hates you,Than to keep a friend, who’s passion is to put you down, secretly
But this is also true that (when he was new in eng programing)M.Z forgot also that (If I'm not wrong about 7 - 8 years ago)He was begging that his SugaR engine to be player in SCCT...In other words, if I knew that he will become so arrogant...I would never test anything from this guy.. really..!!E.g without SugaR: there would be no BIG miss..!And now, do you see: SCCT has own rules too?!
Btw, why I say he is so much arrogant guy?! let's forget everything..As stated above, M.Z invited Me to read his private message but onHis forum site.. hehe)) BiG bOsS oN PaPeR )) and to be more clear:Actually if M.Z was as kind and good person, he would have writtenTo my email address, actually my email is in his hands, but bOsS...And If you ask Me: why I accepted to visit recently? (since monthsI'm not as frequent member on his forum) I thought that probably M.Z will apologize from Me or at least he will allow my site links..But now it's already clear that this guy has no such features at all!Yes..I was quite affected..for nothing to get ban warnings recently..Btw, often he/they offend (via warnings...) to many members like hisForum is as Heaven place, but I'd rather say like a Police station !)But I admit that M.Z's older forum, which past away...was better..!As the fella says Better the devil you know than the devil you don't
And let's hope also that This thread to be helpful as Every dark cloud has a silver lining!
Meantime, I just want to point out also that,No way to satisfy all (it's simply impossible) but anyhow I think thatThere are still who truly respect and appreciate my chess activities!
And once more, I wish to say BIG thanks to all good chess friends,Otherwise, I'd leave since a long time my chess hobby...Special thanks to Mr. Hurnavich too, and still I remember His kind words over my address, for more info: DetailsAnd frankly, right now I'm deeply emotion..my eyes tear up..
Ok.. as final words,Let's leave M.Z to FlY: at higher and higher..)  but,Flying too high...is too dangerous... just saying...!
And after all, I'm human..it's my life..and as target:I will try to not make the same mistake/s as twice!Plus in this way, I think that Mods job will be easier..Otherwise, they may have serious troubles such asCounting my words (during my published postings)And mainly for these reasons, I will try to be not soFrequent member in forums..thanks for understanding
Btw, I've realized to share my previous posting (from here)Just a few more words about M.Z (SugaR's engine author)After banning many members: Details  / removing ban: DetailsBtw, you may see, why my ban is removed? an unusual story!If not clear: I mean simply that without banning M.Z's engines..Very likely, I'd still remained as 'banned/blocked' on his forum!Actually here.. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry! However,If I caused to others's removing their bans then how happy I'mNote also that later M.Z invited Me to visit his Outskirts: DetailsFrankly (in our latest private comments..) and again and again:M.Z is tried to fool Me such as I can't share my chess site links!Now it's perfectly clear that M.Z's point was to take a revenge !!Because, he was aware of that: I've disagreed his rules before!Sad indeed and very cheap actions and later for no any reason,I've got serious warnings etc. by Mod (probably ordered by M.Z) In short, I can summarize over as: Jealousy..is a mental cancer..Btw, on date 30.08.2023: I shared another great saying AnthemAnd I've lost my interest to test M.Z's engines etc. anymore!But this is also very true that now I feel much better for sure!
Thanks for reading and have a nice day!

Best,Sedat