Any and all internal martial arts practitioners interested in improving and evolving thier push hands skills are welcome!!
This is a friendly non-competitive group of beginners and experienced push hands players that focus on improving their sensitivity and listening skills in Tai Chi push hands practice.
We are a non-competitive, cooperative group with practitioners mostly from the various internal martial arts, like Tai Chi, Bagua and Xingyi, but any and all martial arts practitioners are welcome.
Beginners are welcome.
Everybody loves teaching what they know to others who are wanting to learn and play.
Dr. Gray would like to have the players focus on sensing pressure, listening skills (ting jin) and coordinating Tai Chi stepping with four hands and Dalu patterns while down playing the low level tussling that frequently occurs when push hands groups meet.
For a discussion of Tai Chi stepping vs "Flower Stepping' see the collapsible group below.
When Dr. Gray refers to "Flower Stepping" he is referring to it in a positive and optimistic way so that that practice incorporates proper listening and response to pressure while learning how to coordinate this with stepping. If you keep an open mind you will find that it is difficult and tedious but rewarding effort.
In many tai chi push hands circles, “flower stepping” (sometimes called hua bu, 花步, “flower step”) refers to footwork that is overly decorative, excessive, or disconnected from genuine listening and rooting. The term can be used both positively and negatively depending on the lineage and context.
The Negative Meaning: “Flowery” Movement
Most commonly, when teachers criticize “flower stepping,” they mean that a practitioner is:
Taking unnecessary steps to avoid pressure.
Dancing around instead of maintaining structure.
Using footwork to escape rather than neutralize.
Breaking contact whenever challenged.
Prioritizing appearance over function.
For example, in push hands, a student may continually circle, spin, or retreat to avoid being uprooted. They may look skillful because they never lose balance, but they are actually avoiding the moment when they would need to absorb and transform force.
A teacher might say:
“Don’t use flower stepping. Listen first.”
The criticism is that footwork is being used to compensate for a lack of Ting Jin (listening skill) and Hua Jin (neutralizing skill).
The Positive Meaning: Mobile Push Hands
In some traditions, “flower stepping” simply refers to moving-step push hands, where practitioners are free to walk, circle, and adjust position.
Here the stepping is not decorative but functional:
Maintaining advantageous angles.
Protecting the center.
Following changes in force.
Preserving root while mobile.
Creating opportunities for neutralization and issuing.
The feet move like petals opening and closing around a center, which may be where the imagery of “flower” originated.
Relationship to Ting Jin
A common progression is:
Fixed-step push hands develops sensitivity.
Moving-step push hands develops sensitivity while mobile.
Free push hands integrates sensitivity, stepping, and application.
If Ting Jin is weak, stepping tends to become evasive.
If Ting Jin is strong, stepping becomes economical and purposeful.
The best practitioners often take surprisingly few steps. They move only when movement is necessary.
Good Stepping vs. Flower Stepping
Good Stepping
Maintains root.
Preserves body connection.
Responds to actual force.
Improves position.
Keeps listening intact.
Flower Stepping
Reacts out of fear or anticipation.
Loses structure.
Creates unnecessary movement.
Breaks connection.
Hides weaknesses.
A useful test is:
Did the step arise because I genuinely felt a change through contact, or because I guessed trouble was coming?
The first develops push hands skill. The second often becomes a habit of avoidance.
The Advanced View
At higher levels, stepping itself becomes part of listening.
You are not merely sensing through the hands. You are sensing through the entire body:
The feet feel pressure changes through the floor.
The hips feel shifts in the partner’s center.
The body adjusts position before force fully develops.
At that stage, stepping and listening are no longer separate skills. The feet become another expression of Ting Jin.
A traditional principle is:
“The hands arrive because the body arrives; the body arrives because the feet arrive.”
In good push hands, the feet are not wandering independently. They move as a natural consequence of what the whole body is perceiving and doing. That is very different from “flower stepping” in the pejorative sense, where the feet are simply running away from pressure.
Fixed-Step Patterns: Standing still to isolate waist rotation and "kua" (hip) movement while circling.
Moving-Step Patterns: Coordinating the hands with footwork, including straight steps and cross-steps.
Large Roll-back (Da Lu): A four-corner exercise involving deeper stances and specific footwork to neutralize powerful pushes.
Silk Reeling (Chan Si Gong): Spiraling and twisting motions used to redirect force and
These are the core movements found in most Yang and Wu style practices.
Peng (Ward-off): Testing structural integrity and "listening" to the opponent's center of gravity.
Lu (Roll-back): Learning to follow and yield to an incoming force without losing contact.
Ji (Press): Practicing the delivery of force through the limbs to penetrate the opponent's center.
An (Push/Settle): Directing force downward or forward with precision and light hands.
Cai (Pluck/Pull Down): A sudden, downward snapping motion used to break a partner's balance or uproot them. It’s like picking a fruit from a tree—quick and decisive.
Lie (Split): A simultaneous force in two opposite directions (like a pair of scissors). It is often used to unbalance a partner by moving their upper body one way and their lower body another.
Zhou (Elbow): Using the elbow as a striking or neutralizing surface. This is a "short-range" energy used when a partner gets too close for hand or palm techniques.
Kao (Shoulder/Body Strike): Using the shoulder or upper back to strike or displace a partner. This is the closest-range energy, used when you are "chest-to-chest" with an opponent.