I have a few stubborn birds that do not trap with the others when called in. I have put them in a crate in the dark with only water for a day even two (on advice from elder flyer)and this has not worked, well for these particular 3 birds it has not, it did for the other 2. These are late hatches that were given to me when they were quite a bit older so I did not have a opportunity to train them as squeakers. So what methods do you all use to get your birds to trap when called. Thanks.
Oh I whistle but the only thing coming home are the cows. These birds have not eaten like I said I crate them and do not feed them for a day then put them back in the loft and loft fly them I will call them in (whistle) and most go in but these soon to be long neck birds. They aren't getting food elsewhere because I can feel them getting thinner. The crate worked for the others but ....don't know what else to do with these stubborn ones.
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I hate to say this but I dont worry about trapping until race day I just give mine open loft and plenty of feed and let them be I have had 2 races in 3 years that I had trapping problems and still won both I would much rather lose on the trap than in the air I think maybe you are trying too hard to make them do what you want them to do
i wouldnt basket them next time, & just make sure they get no food when they eventually do go in, maybe they fear if they go in they get basketed all the time, so just try letting them trap with no food, then after a day or two, they should trap quicker if not first.
I've found my birds don't like to be locked out. If they don't come in when called, I close the doors and go away and have a cuppa or read the paper, breakfast, anything. When they start 'scurrying' in front of the doors I give them another 20/30 minutes, then open up ... usually drop or walk in before I get a chance to call them. If there's food left when they come in they eat, if not, they don't.
I had the same trouble one time. There were 3 birds that just refused to come in, one even stayed out at night, I never paid any attention to them. I stayed in the loft while the other birds ate, then took the food away after 15 min. and left the 3 outside. In the morning 2 would always be in but the one would stay out side. I think it was on the fourth day the 3 problem birds were the first ones in.
well i was told as you where 2 shed them for the night without food but as this was in the race season when this happened i was told 2 basket them with the rest the next morning for a short training flight
I agree with what Snowy posted and so I put them in the enclosed landing board and called them in with the rest of the birds and let them feed. I figure its been a while since they came in with the rest of the team to eat and drink they may need a refresher course. I let them out the next day to train and called them in. Only 2 would not trap. So locked out they are. We will see how long it takes before they get hungry enough to come in.
I agree with the others about feeding and this could possible be the answer BUT when I was in England, I had a similar problem and found out that I had a mouse or two in the loft that were freaking those particular birds out. I know this may be a long shot but It's worth checking to see if you have any of the little buggers in the loft, as when I got rid of the mice they birds trapped fine.
Have to agree with Snowy - it could be that you are handling them and basketing them when they do come in - They may actually be scared of you! Latebreds are fickle things at the best of times. I'd prefer to give them a treat - try sbelbins peanut or some trapping mix until they know the ropes - dont starve them -theyre only babies afterall
Well, I started locking them out, then opening the landing board when the other birds were almost finished with all of the feed. The birds learned pretty quickly once they entered and found some food that if they entered earlier they would get more. They now all come in when called. Well maybe not at the first call but they do come in. As always with pigeons its a work in progress. Thanks for all the advice.
if mine start to play up like this i will only give them very minimul amount of grain until the next day. if they do the ysame they hardley get any food..they soon learn they have to enter loft to get feed
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One of the many feral pigeons that visit my garden seems to have a problem flying properly. It seems able to take off and fly horizontally, but flying upwards is an issue. I first spotted it last night at about 11-30pm, when I went to check the garden as soon as I returned home from work. The pigeon in question was hunched up by the kitchen door. It was able to fly across the garden, but nothing more. So that it wouldn't become fox food, I lifted the netting and let it into the small bird sanctuary. It was able to hop through the trellis at the far end, so I knew it wouldn't be trapped. I left some bread and seed for it and figured it would probably pass away during the night. The same thing happened a few weeks ago, but that pigeon was unable to eat properly and it did die overnight, but of natural causes rather than by fox or cat. I left for work at 5-30am this morning, so I didn't have the chance to see if it had survived. When I checked at 8pm this evening, it was still sitting at the end of the garden. I left more seed for it and came back indoors. Unfortunately my shift pattern means I won't be home during daytime for the next few days. Any suggestions? Should I try to catch it and release it in an open area?
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