Obviously, digital synths and drum machines are ubiquitious in modern music and completely fine. But how do you feel about MIDI tracks that are used instead of real/acoustic instruments? Like acoustic drums, pianos, organs, and especially MIDI guitars, strings or horns? Technology is advancing pretty fast, and making these things sound like the real deal is getting easier and easier.

Do you care if an orchestral part in a song is real or sampled? A choir? An organ or electric piano? Does it still matter if you can't distinguish it from the real deal? Or does knowing it's a real instrument improve the experience? Curious to hear what you think.


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Edit: it appears my question has more to do with the samples that are used and how good performances on certain instruments can be simulated. Piano samples with a few midi tweaks? Sounds fine. A midi trumpet or violin is way harder to get right, even when the samples are really good.

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making a VST softsynth instrument with additional midi output is the only way

and afaik you cannot drop a synth after a midi-generating vsti into Live - instead you have to configure the IO-routing of the midi-receiving track to receive midi from your midi-generating track

Hello,The MIDI mapping functionality is a game changer, but I was wondering if there is an option for full control of the VCV Rack through the MIDI protocol. Is it possible to use MIDI commands (SysEx or NRPN?) to select which INs and OUTs from the modules are connected? It would be amazing to have a MIDI controller that has only knobs and real patch-cables that only send MIDI data to control the VCV Rack without the need of a mouse and a screen. Would feel like an actual modular system.If it is not yet possible I have some ideas of how that MIDI protocol could be structured. Anyone know if it is a hard thing to implement?

midi track arp=on

record> arp is playing realtime and sounds as expected but only recording the two pressed keys midi, not recording the actual arp sequence.

I thought "bounce to clip would convert the midi notes into the actual arp sequence, but it's not.

For those who don't know why this is significant; the original PC release of Doom uses the MUS format. While this format can be converted back to MIDI, it does not preserve things like metadata or timing information. The latter is especially important as it means they're basically useless for editing or DAWs (say if you wanted to transcribe the songs, or make a remix), and won't play nice in things that expect standard timing. We already had the source MIDIs for the prototype tracks so we know what to expect here. This is really fucking cool.

@Gez Your listing of the os2.wad file claims two different songs are listed for E2M1; is this correct? The only part of Silent Scream that sounds remotely like E2M1 to me are the various shreds in the last third of the song. The rest of E2M1 is unambiguously Big Gun, but Big Gun does not contain any running shreds even remotely like the ones in E2M1 so it's interesting - it may be a mix of ideas. However that being said this also confirms Silent Scream was an influence and I hear other parts of Doom songs in it and I'm terrible at matching that kind of thing from memory so it'd be good for somebody to figure that out and get it on the wiki.

I doubt that Bobby Prince gave false info on purpose. I know John Romero sometimes likes to exaggerate stuff (like the intentional broken secret thing) but Bobby Prince wasn't a part of the id team, he was a contractor. It is such a common riff and it's not as close to the original song that many of the Doom covers are that I can totally believe him going back to listen to it and thinking "I probably made this one before I made the cover stuff" if he didn't have access to the original MIDIs anymore. Remember this game is 30 years old this year.

Okay so this may just be me misremembering but I could have sworn Bobby mentioned something about Message for the Archvile originally using a taiko in an interview? I know Into Sandy's City originally used a grand piano for it's lead.

We are not completely pairing in&outs at the moment though. Internally, things are still a bit separated, legacy from the days when the MIDI devices only sent data but did not care to receive anything

Whether or not you remember late 80s gear, you might well want a device that lets you record and sequence real-time patterns. Retrokits has a tasty-looking gadget coming to do just that. And if the words "Alesis MMT8" do mean something to you, well,...

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I intend to use GP to play a few midi files from time to time (audio as well) and I would like to loop the midi files. I have created a basic pattern in logic and saved as a midi file. I then add a midi player block to GP as assign that file. The issue I am having (with several different files) is that there is a skip delay in the loop. Meaning the loop plays, there is a short pause, then it starts again. Any idea what I am doing wrong here? Maybe some midi message issue (failure to grab that first note on or something?).

I'd just stick with my Boomerang III looper, separate effects pedals, amp and cabs. I was hoping to get rid of all of that and use just the Helix with a PA, but it only makes sense for me if I can get rid of everything all at once. We each have our own personal requirements :)

I just recently bought a helix presuming in such a beast the looper would obviously be able to midi sync for use with my beat Buddy and it doesn't.

Also you cant have snapshots on the looper screen. Totally useless! Such a great big expensive piece of kit and they put a dud looper in it!

Now I don't know what to do. I bought it second hand at a good price so might have to just sell it and re asses the situation or integrate a separate looper.

Well, I've been around the block a time or two with all sorts of setups and loopers for solo performances. At one time I had a laptop-based setup using Mobius (a software looper) and midi pedals. It all worked great at home BUT if things went south at a live gig it was a (female dog) to recover from or troubleshoot. I nixed it for live use.

@Tim6502 Thanks, I've read it Tim, well, most of it. Thing is, what you posted here is just about sending midi messages to turn various features in the app on and off etc. I know it does these things. This is not what I'm looking for.

What I'm trying to do it get it to arpeggiate midi notes being sent in to the app. I don't want Strummer to use its internal chords, I want it to use only its arp section to process chords coming in from outside.

@Gavinski said:

@Tim6502 Thanks, I've read it Tim, well, most of it. Thing is, what you posted here is just about sending midi messages to turn various features in the app on and off etc. I know it does these things. This is not what I'm looking for.

I feel I must be missing something because you really should be able to send chords in. But so far can't find a way. Only thing I see midi doing is the stuff mentioned in Tim's message, which is not what I'm looking for.

@Gavinski and @Poppadocrock - I think this is a guitar strummer and not an Arp, so you will have to look elsewhere for that, as well as for logic to compute whether (and when) there is a chord in the incoming midi (elsewhere in AB there is a long thread why that typically is not an easy thing to program, e.g. in Mozaic). This effort is simply sidestepped by predefining the chords.

Paul said he would look into allowing midi in but who knows. As I mentioned in the other thread, there are indeed difficulties, pointed out by Krupa, that if you use regular keyboard input you don't have the detailed info about chord position on the fretboard etc that are a lot of what makes this app special. I think it's a great app by the way, I definitely wouldn't let the lack of being able to use it as a traditional arp but me off getting it, it's great. But I'd definitely love to see some mutation options with maybe some intelligent auto-hammer on effects etc. Would be so nice if an arp pattern made small changes in each pass through. And as I mentioned in my video, I think it really needs a save feature for arp patterns, not whole presets. Plus, allowing one arp pattern to run its course before switching to another. Those transitions don't run smoothly.

The USB-A port does power up my FBV Shortboard, but it does not seem to receive the USB midi commands to my FBV Shortboard. So I thought the USB-A port on the Kemper (Rack) did not work for USB midi (and only the USB-B in the back could be used for this). e24fc04721

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