SILENT ACOUSTIC

A Sculpture Conversation with DJ Barrett & Emily C-D


DJ BARRETT : Hieroglyphics, 2020, wood, copper, paper, cardboard, rawhide, H 14" W 20" D 3.5"

EMILY C-D : Evening, 2020, wood, glue, H 9” W 9” D 6”

EMILY C-D : Timepiece, 2020, wood, cardboard, wire, glue, H 12” W 10” D 8”

DJ BARRETT : Chop House, 2019, wood, metal, leather, chicken wire, H 13" W 8.5" D 6"

Thoughts & Theory : An Interview with DJ Barrett & Emily C-D

Why do you work with vernacular materials?

DJ Barrett : I'm drawn to things like wood (preferably old), cardboard, wire, metal, and plumbing supplies for several reasons. First of all, I find an inherent esthetic appeal in these things, and by making pieces that will be viewed as art, perhaps other people will see the beauty in these materials too. Another reason has to do with the humbleness of materials like these -- they aren't expensive materials from an art supply store, but stuff I find on the street, at flea markets, at construction sites, and at hardware stores. The proletarian nature of these materials has a political and social resonance for me.

Emily C-D : Echoing that sentiment, I'd like to add that the accessibility of these materials intrinsically speaks to the availability of art, as something that could be created by all of us if the social situation allowed. Working with everyday materials turns on its head the idea that only the educated and those who can afford quality materials can make valuable art. The value lies in the making. As it is, art continues to be something mostly consumed by an elite and often created by gig workers who don't receive social benefits, a brutal reality that becomes exaggerated in the current economically depressed pandemic landscape. And yet, art is not only nutritious and emotionally satisfying to consume, but a powerfully transformative act to create. It is interesting to note how being isolated in our homes in a suddenly unpredictable situation drives many to reconnect with the creative urges left behind in childhood. We all have lots of materials around us to work with if we know how to look, listen, and imagine, skill sets that are absolutely necessary if we are to learn lessons from the current challenging reality and work together towards positive changes in our societies and the way we relate to the web of life that sustains us.

How does your background as an improvisational musician inform your artmaking?

DJ Barrett : It's a deep influence, as I was heavily involved in free improvisation for a number of years. It manifests in many ways in my visual work, but mainly is a frame of mind in how one approaches the work. As an improvisor, you have to trust your instincts, be ready to change what you're doing in an instant, listen intently while you are simultaneously playing/creating, push the limits of your technique, work at rejecting preconceived ideas and patterns you've developed previously, and know when to lay out. All of these skills come into play in my visual art practice as well. And when it works -- and knowing and accepting that it won't always is a big part of it too! -- when it works you end up somewhere strange and wonderful and exciting that you simply couldn't have imagined otherwise.

Emily C-D : Yes, it is all about looking and listening and responding. Either harmonizing and keeping the beat, or deciding to push the sonic, visual or social boundaries in order to discover new truths. Both a lone artist responding to their materials or a musician in an ensemble are creators working in collaboration; one must be open and willing to work towards something new. For myself, I have noticed that I may not pick up my violin for a period of months or years while I am more focused on visual output, and yet, when I return to music, I play better than ever. Art and music both deal with tone and rhythm and as such inform and nourish each other.

How does your art practice inform your being in the bigger world?

DJ Barrett : That's a big question! One thing I hope is that my art practice reflects and refracts in the sense of humbleness that I talked about above. Certainly it has deepened my appreciation of workers and artisans who have specialized knowledge and skills that are hardly ever sufficiently appreciated or celebrated. But I think being an artist of any kind is all-encompassing, in a way. It becomes who you are and the lens with which you view and interact with the world. And it becomes the only response to a frightening and insane world that hardly makes any sense to me. Some people become activists, and indeed some artists use their art as an expression of activism, but for me it's just the simple act of creativity, of making work, that feels like the best way I personally can do something that is hopeful, life-affirming, and speaks to our higher nature as humans, trying to muddle through this life together on this planet.

Emily C-D : For myself, working with scrap wood has definitely inspired me to reflect on the implications of the existence of this material and the plight of its source. Did you know that trees actually release gases that help seed clouds in the atmosphere? They literally bring the rain! Deforestation is a sad reality in our world and contributes to desertification, drought, and the degradation of topsoil and air quality. This series of sculptures has inspired me to learn about my local native tree species and try to sprout some seeds!

↓↓↓ ESPAÑOL : Reflexiones y Teoría : Una Entrevista con DJ Barrett & Emily C-D ↓↓↓

¿Por qué trabajan con materiales cotidianos?

DJ Barrett: Me llama la atención materiales como la madera (de preferencia vieja), cartón, alambre, metal y suministros de plomería por varias razones. Primero, encuentro un atractivo estético inherente en estas cosas, y al hacer con ellas obras que serán vistas como arte, tal vez otras personas también reconocerían su belleza. Otra razón tiene que ver con la humildad de materiales como estos: no son cosas caras de una tienda de materiales de arte, sino materiales que uno puede encontrar en la calle, en el tianguis, en sitios de construcción y en ferreterías. La naturaleza proletaria de estos materiales tiene una resonancia política y social para mí.

Emily C-D: Haciendo hincapié de este punto, me gustaría agregar que la accesibilidad de estos materiales intrínsecamente habla del acceso al arte, como algo que todxs podríamos crear si la situación social lo permitiera. Trabajar con materiales cotidianos le da la vuelta a la idea de que solo lxs educadxs y aquellxs que pueden pagar por materiales de calidad pueden crear arte valioso. Su valor radica en el acto de crearlo. Actualmente, el arte sigue siendo algo consumido principalmente por una élite y, por lo general, creado por trabajadores que no reciben beneficios sociales, una realidad brutal que se exagera bajo el panorama pandémico actual. Y, sin embargo, el arte no solo es nutritivo y un gozo de consumir, sino un acto poderosamente transformador para quien lo crea. Es interesante notar que al estar de repente aisladxs en nuestros hogares, muchxs empiezan a reconectarse con sus impulsos creativos que se habían quedados en la infancia. Todxs tenemos mucho material a nuestro alrededor para explorar ideas si sabemos cómo mirar, escuchar e imaginar. Habilidades que son absolutamente necesarios para aprender lecciones del reto de la realidad actual y trabajar juntxs hacia cambios positivos en nuestras sociedades y la forma con que nos relacionamos con la red de la vida que nos sostiene.

¿Cómo influye a su obra visual su formación como músicos de improvisación?

DJ Barrett: Es una influencia profunda, ya que estuve muy involucrado en la improvisación libre durante varios años. Se manifiesta de muchas maneras en mi trabajo visual, pero principalmente es un estado mental de cómo abordo el trabajo. Como improvisador, tienes que confiar en tus instintos, estar preparado para cambiar lo que estás haciendo en un instante, escuchar atentamente mientras estás tocando/creando simultáneamente, superar los límites de tu técnica, trabajar para rechazar ideas y patrones que antes funcionaban, y saber cuándo callarse. Todas estas habilidades también entran en juego en mi práctica visual. Y cuando funciona--y saber y aceptar que no siempre funcionaría es una gran parte de eso también!--cuando funciona, terminas en un lugar extraño, maravilloso y emocionante que simplemente no podrías haber imaginado de otra manera.

Emily C-D: Claro, se trata de mirar, escuchar y responder. Que sea armonizando y manteniendo el ritmo, o decidiendo empujar los límites sonoros, visuales o sociales para descubrir nuevas verdades. Tanto un artista solitario que responde a sus materiales, como un músico en un conjunto, son creadores que trabajan en colaboración; uno debe de estar abierto y dispuesto a trabajar hacia algo nuevo. Por mi parte, me ha dado cuenta de que puedo no tocar mi violín por un periodo de meses o hasta años mientras estoy más enfocada en la producción visual, y sin embargo, cuando regreso a la música, toco mejor que nunca. Ambos el arte y la música tienen que ver con tono y ritmo y, como tales, se informan y se nutren mutuamente.

¿Cómo informa su práctica artística a su forma de actuar en el mundo?

DJ Barrett: ¡Esa es una gran pregunta! Una cosa que espero es que mi práctica artística refleje y refracte en el sentido de humildad del que hablé anteriormente. Ciertamente, ha profundizado mi aprecio por los trabajadores y artesanos que tienen conocimientos especializados y habilidades que casi nunca son lo suficientemente apreciados o celebrados. Pero creo que ser un artista de cualquier tipo termina influyendo todos los aspectos de tu vida de alguna manera. Se convierte en quién eres y en la lente a través de la cual ves e interactúas con el mundo. Y se convierte en la única respuesta a un mundo loco y de miedo que casi no entiendo. Algunas personas se convierten en activistas, y de hecho algunos artistas usan su arte como una expresión de activismo, pero para mí es solo el simple acto de creatividad, de crear obra, que se siente como la mejor manera en que personalmente puedo hacer algo que es esperanzador, algo que reafirma lo bello de la vida, y que habla de nuestra naturaleza como humanos, tratando juntxs de salir adelante en esta vida terrestrial.

Emily C-D: Para mí, trabajar con madera tirada definitivamente me ha inspirado a reflexionar sobre las implicaciones de la existencia de este material y la panorama de su origen. ¿Sabías que los árboles liberan gases que ayudan a sembrar nubes en la atmósfera? ¡Literalmente atraen a la lluvia! La deforestación es una triste realidad en nuestro mundo y contribuye a la desertificación, la sequía y la degradación del suelo y la calidad del aire. Esta serie de esculturas me ha inspirado a aprender sobre las especies de árboles nativos locales y ¡tratar de germinar algunas semillas!

EMILY C-D : Bingo Bango, 2020, various found materials, dimensions variable

DJ BARRETT : I'd Rather Not, 2020, wood, metal, paper, screws, H 8" W 14" D 8"

DJ BARRETT : Pleased to Meet Me, 2020, wood, rope, twine, wire, metal, H 18" W 28" D 3.5"

EMILY C-D : Morning, 2020, wood, wire, glue, H 13” W 10” D 7”

EMILY C-D : Measuring Stick, 2020, wood, wire, glue, H 18” W 13” D 7”

DJ BARRETT : Earth Science, 2020, wood, paper, nails, W 31.5" H 9.25" D 3.25"

DJ BARRETT : Improvisation: Art and Life, 2020, various found materials, dimensions variable

Ground Resonances : an essay by Víctor Fuentes

There was an intentional initiative of the artists to transform wood. For Emily C-D, a desire to reclaim that which has been relegated, forgotten, abandoned for who knows how long in an unsuspected place. In DJ Barrett, the union of wood and rusty metal makes sense, a visual resonance that refers to the hidden songs in the material. Both artists seek to dialogue with the viewer through their pieces while simultaneously intimately conversing with their materials.

Emily C-D dedicates her pieces to expansion, looking for possible ties that are simultaneously expressing endless freedom. For DJ Barrett, the wood encases and protects like a womb, to contain a language to communicate, boundaries that provide opportunities for challenging, or not. It is amazing to see how the two artists use the same material with very different interpretations, hence the importance of joining their conversations and their narratives. Both captivate by layering pieces upon each other, accommodating ancient streaks and embroidering with fine threads or wires of being, thus achieving cohesive forms.

The mysticism that underlies the artists' works is the desire to create new images from the land that gives us everything. This wood, now a sculpture, once drank a river? Was it the house of some birds that decided to abandon it? They have brought them together.

In Emily's clocks, there remains something unmeasured, a non-confinement, a silent scream that invites us to reinterpret what is not useful, that which does not have a price and which we obtain by simply picking it up. In contrast, DJ Barrett prefers cloisters, enclosing to protect fresh shapes and textures, that their inert potential might not be torn open, although in moments certain elements break free. There is a common proposal for the viewer to converse and play with that which surrounds them, as both artists have done so well.

We see how the artists’ dialogues with their material emerges with subtlety, how it speaks to them and leads them to know and name their pieces under a delirium of composition that exceeds pure assembly. Each element recognizes itself within a range of earth tones that connect us to the primordial source. Once finished, if indeed these pieces have a determined end, the boxes and the clocks reveal the hidden life of the material. They fill us with a nostalgia for childhood, that we might once again find simple joy in playing with pieces of wood.

The sculptures, though made of vernacular materials, cannot be overlooked, but rather penetrate through our pores, animating us with their tones and many nuances to discern. In the end, the song of the wood belongs to everyone.

Víctor Fuentes, Galería Gubidxa, Oaxaca, Mexico

↓↓↓ ESPAÑOL : Resonancias de Tierra : un ensayo de Víctor Fuentes ↓↓↓

Hubo una iniciativa de los artistas en intervenir la madera, en Emily C-D, es esa madera que ha quedado relegada, la que no se destina para nada, la que pudo estar abandonada por mucho, en un lugar insospechado. En DJ Barrett, cobra sentido la unión de oxidado fierro, para comulgar en la madera que se vuelve resonancia. Llama la atención que a pasar de comulgar madera y artistas, ambos definen sus piezas, ambos buscan dialogar, pero al mismo instante conversan de manera íntima en sus diálogos con los materiales.

Emily C-D destina sus piezas a la libre, a buscar ataduras posibles y que estén expresando simultáneamente libertad sin fin. Y en DJ Barrett, estas maderas protegen como el vientre, para tener un lenguaje que comunicar, límites que invitan empujar y salir, o no. Ambos sorprenden por usar el mismo material de muy diversa interpretación, de ahí la importancia de unir sus conversaciones y sus narrativas. Ambas maestrías, seducen, al sobre poner una pieza sobre otra, acomodar vetas milenarias y bordar con finos hilos o alambres del ser, lograr estas piezas reunidas.

No es más que el deseo de crear imágenes nuevas para la tierra que todo lo prodiga, es éste el misticismo que bordea las obras de los artistas. ¿Esa madera, ahora escultura, bebió un río? O ¿solo fue casa de unos pájaros que decidieron abandonarla? Ellos, los han reunido.

En los relojes de Emily, permanece un no medida, un no encierro, un grito desgargante que invita a reinterpretar lo que no es útil, lo que no tiene un precio y lo obtenemos con solo poner la mano sobre él. En contraste, el acomodo por contenerse las piezas casi vírgenes en formas y texturas, DJ Barrett prefiere enclaustras, a medida que puedan desgarrar todo su potencial inerte, aunque en momentos algunos elementos salen de la caja. Aquí ésta la propuesta a conversar, jugar e invitar al espectador a hacerlo, como bien lo resolvieron ellos mismos.

Se sumergieron tan hondamente en ese dialogo, vemos como aflora con sutileza, se dieron pautas para nombrar sus piezas, éstas que podemos apreciar, bajo el delirio del pulido, y la composición que sobre pasa el puro ensamble, donde cada pieza se reconoce a sí misma, y ya, todas se muestran bajo una gama tierra, o al menos nos conecta con ella. Una vez acabadas, -si puede haber un terminar- ambos artistas, en las cajas y en los relojes, revelan la vida que se ha encerrado por mucho, nos llenan de una nostalgia de niños, que podemos seguir jugando con un trozo de madera, evocar y rehacer la infancia que nos haya apasionado.

Las cajas y sus relojes, conformaran piezas libres de juego, donde mirar, respirar y olernos. Hasta penetrar atreves de sus poros, vivificarnos de sus nuevos colores, y matices por discernir. Al final, el arrullo es de todos.

Víctor Fuentes, Galería Gubidxa, Oaxaca, Mexico

DJ BARRETT : (l - r) Self Portrait, 2018, wood, paper, H 6" W 9" D 3"; Paperback Writer, 2018, wood, paper from vintage paperbacks, chicken wire, H 15" W 6.5" D 4"; House of Card(board)s, 2018, wood, cardboard, H 9" W 13" D 4.75"

EMILY C-D : After the Burn, 2020, wood, bone, wool, nails, metal chair frame, H 3’ W 4’ D 3’

DJ BARRETT : Can You Repeat the Question?, 2019, wood, stone, wire, twine, paper, nails, H 6.5" W 27" D 8"

EMILY C-D : Exhale, 2020, wood, wire, glue, H 12” W 18” D 6”

EMILY C-D : Intersection, 2020, wood, wire, nails, glue, H 14” W 16” D 5”

DJ BARRETT : Ex-Plane Yourself, 2019, wood, metal, wire, H 10.5" W 16.5" D 5.5"

DJ BARRETT : Tube or Not Tube, 2019, wood, copper, paper, H 8.5" W 31.5" D 3.5"

EMILY C-D : Inhale, 2020, wood, wire, glue, H 10” W 10” D 4”

DJ BARRETT : You Have No Idea, 2020, wood, felt, palm, H 8" W 6" D 4"

DJ Barrett is a musician and visual artist with an abiding interest in improvisation that informs his work in both mediums. As a visual artist, Barrett works in sculpture, drawing and collage, and has exhibited and been collected in the U.S., Mexico and Latin America. As a saxophonist, he and his three brothers formed the seminal San Francisco new wave band No Sisters in the late 1970's. Later, Barrett was a member of Club Foot Orchestra, who pioneered performing live original soundtracks with classic silent films and recorded for Ralph Records. In the late '80's he formed the post-­modern improv group The Splatter Trio, who recorded five influential cds on the Rastascan label. Barrett has also performed and recorded with legendary artists in the U.S., Europe and Mexico, including Butch Morris, Sam Rivers, Tim Berne, Myra Melford, the Rova Saxophone Quartet, the Dead Kennedys, Snakefinger, Univers Zero, Mr. Bungle, Banda Elastica, Ed Mann, Michael Bisio, Todd Reynolds, and Bobby Kapp. He has collaborated with a number of poets including Carla Harryman, Steve Benson, Norman Fischer and Andrew Levy, as well as dance and theater companies. He had a parallel career, from which he is now retired, as a development director for arts organizations, including work with the California Shakespeare Festival, the San Francisco Jazz Festival, Jacob's Pillow Dance Festival and the Mahaiwe Performing Arts Center, among others. He lives in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico.

Emily C-D is an illustrator, muralist, sculptor and seed saver, originally from Maryland, based in Mexico, and working on both sides of the border. She employs seemingly disparate realms of artistic expression—public and personal, abstract and illustrative—that comprise a continuum of investigation exploring the interplay between supposedly dissimilar but in fact very interrelated environmental and social issues. She began working professionally in Baltimore before receiving her BFA at MICA in 2005, getting her start in the realm of public art with the Neighborhood Design Center and then assisting muralist Jay Wolf Schlossberg-Cohen. Subsequently Emily worked for several years incorporating art into inner city gardens under the tutelage of Ed Miller, then director of the Community Lot Team at Civic Works. Her work as an art teacher for immigrant youth at the Mi Espacio Program had a direct impact on her desire to improve her Spanish, and ultimately led her to Mexico in 2009. Eleven years later, Emily is fully bilingual, mother to a binational child, has painted several Mexican murals, and played violin in the Mariachi Quita Penas, La Balconika, and Las Iguanas de María. She is the visual voice of the SOMOS SEMILLA Seed Library and last June joined forces with migrant rights activists of Otros Dreams en Acción for the seminal art action Florecer Aquí y Allá. She lives with her son outside of San Miguel de Allende, Mexico.