How long did it usually take to sail from Philadelphia to Boston in the 1700s? I've been able to find lots of sources talking about sailing time between England and the colonies, but I haven't found anything yet about sailing time between the colonies.
The problem you have with such a journey, at the time, is there is no direct way to travel between the two. From most texts I have read about shipping to Philadelphia entry is only through the Delaware River that makes up the border of New Jersey and Delaware. When reading about Howe's exit from Philadelphia this is prominent as the Colonials were attempting to blockade the river with ships. To get from Boston you would need to go down the coast and then travel up the Delaware River.
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I did find a site asking such a question a few years ago, on the American Patriot blogspot where they extrapolated the speed of sailing ships. Which is really needed to answer this, see the site for how they determine that rate. The speed they come up with is 8.3 mph, I will use that to base my answer.
If you look on Google maps you can get a straight line distance of roughly 310 miles, land based. That is by current roads, which is not what you would have even had at the time. There are numerous texts that note how long it takes to travel up and down the East Coast, no need to cover that. Using Google Maps you can drag the roadways along the coasts and get a closer approximation of 603 land miles (or 524.6 nautical miles) which gives a travel time of about 63 hours.
So, if the trip was a straight shot, without stopping (which I highly doubt) you would be looking at 63 hours/ 2.5 days of travel time to get from Boston to Philadelphia. As noted below this is not how you would travel, pulling into ports to stop, avoid storms, or trade along the way would definitely increase your travel time.
Did a google map thing and followed the coastline as close as possible, came out to 700 miles give or take. That is 608.something nautical miles, so call that 600 for easy math. More googling shows a few papers citing 4.something knots as the average speed of the average ship of the time. At a speed of 4 knots (4 nm/hr) call it 100nm per 24 hr period. So about a week. Add in delays due to waiting for a harbor/river pilot, the proper tidal stage, bad weather, wind in wrong direction (speed towards destination when tacking drops dramatically even though you can be moving fairly fast), etc. and call it a 7-14 day sail.
Hancock says that on a nice summer day, you can typically expect to see roughly 20 to 30 boats (including jet skis) on the tidal portion of the Schuylkill, where boats with motors must stick to idling speed.
After all, you have to be nimble on the Delaware: Liberty Sailing Club shares the water with vehicles like tankers, tug boats, a ferry, and at least three party boats. The river brings a different kind of traffic, and there are right-of-way rules about who must yield to whom.
After all, teamwork is exactly what the members of Liberty Sailing Club signed up for: The group is the only sailing club in Philadelphia that offers access to a fleet of club-owned boats (all J/27s), and members must chip in and help maintain the boats.
I remember a few years ago that there was a cruiseline sailing out of Philadelphia. Now that I'd like to travel to Philadelphia pre-cruise and do some sight-seeing there, I'm not finding any cruises using that as a departure port. Is there any cruise line sailing from Philadelphia anymore?
If I remember correctly (and if I am wrong someone will correct me) that cruise ships are no longer calling on Philadelphia and that includes not only ships starting or ending there but also stopping there which we did in November of 2010.
What I do remember is that there was a announcement that the terminal that we sailed to in November of 2010 that takes the larger passenger ships no longer does this. I think it was the economics. Very few ships stopped there because it take a long time to sail into that port. Too bad. We enjoyed it as part of a NCY to Los Angeles sailing we were on.
We live on the South Jersey shore, and loved sailing[twice] out of Philly, it was so convenient for us I wonder if the problem with getting in and out of Philly is that the road bridges are too low for the newer, larger ships??
On the Norwegian Sea [we sailed Oct 2007], which was a small ship [ maybe 40,000 to 50,000 tons], we were outside as we sailed under a couple of bridges leaving Philly, [maybe Wilmington, DE ??area] and it seemed like we were within a few feet of 'scraping the paint' under the bridge. Now with just about all the major cruise lines going to these much larger ships, 100,000+ tons, and doing away with the smaller ships, maybe getting them under the bridges is not a possibility???.
I know that several of the high-end cruise lines like Silversea, Crystal etc.. have smaller ships, but of the major-market cruise lines - NCL,RCL,Carnival- the ships are getting larger and larger, I don't believe any have a cruise ship now less than about 80,000 tons.
We live on the South Jersey shore, and loved sailing[twice] out of Philly, it was so convenient for us, I wonder if the problem with getting in and out of Philly is that the road bridges are too low for the newer, larger ships??
On the Norwegian Sea & Norwegian Majesty [we sailed Oct 2003, 2008], which were small ships [ maybe 40,000 to 50,000 tons], we were outside as we sailed under a couple of bridges leaving Philly, [maybe Wilmington, DE ??area] and it seemed like we were within a few feet of 'scraping the paint' under the bridge. Now with just about all the major cruise lines going to these much larger ships, 100,000+ tons, and doing away with the smaller ships, maybe getting them under the bridges is not a possibility???. and as the bridges don't move[open], I guess the cruise lines moved.
THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP on this one...I have to say I'm disappointed too. We had hoped to sail sometime out of Philadelphia so we could visit the hulk of the old S.S. United States and do a pre-cruise stay at the Bellevue-Stratford hotel. Guess I'll just hope that some time in future years some of the smaller cruise ships that the major cruise lines still retain will choose Philadelphia again as a departure port.
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