Here we go! The next version of KDE Plasma is now in Beta and ready for wider testing, with some really great sounding changes. This is my favourite Linux desktop environment I use at home, plus it's the Desktop Mode on Steam Deck!
Multi-monitor support should also be a lot better, as they've done a huge overhaul on it behind the scenes. While it should be mostly invisible to the end-user the changes involved were quite big and should result in no more empty desktops, you shouldn't see panels and widgets getting lost, a better experience with USB-C based docks (hello Steam Deckers) and so on.
KDE Plasma 5.15.3 Desktop Environment Released With Flatpak Improvements, More
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The KDE Project announced today KDE Plasma 5.24.5 as the fifth maintenance update to the latest and greatest KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS desktop environment series, bringing even more improvements and fixing annoying bugs.
The Plasma 5.18 LTS Beta is out! This new version of your favorite desktop environment adds neat new features that make your life easier, including clearer notifications, streamlined settings for your system and the desktop layout, much improved GTK integration, and more. Plasma 5.18 is easier and more fun, while at the same time allowing you to do more tasks faster.
elementary OS 7 is finally here. It took a year and a half from OS 6 to OS 7, and a lot has changed in the Linux desktop space since then. When OS 6 released, it was by far the smoothest and most polished experience you could find on Linux. It might have been too simple for some people, but no one could argue how well designed and focused it was. GNOME and KDE have since improved by leaps and bounds, and made strides to support the latest Linux stack, like Wayland, Flatpak, portals, and more, basically relegating elementary OS 6.1 to an also ran that was playing catch up.
You have no clue how the Debian system works. The Plasma 6 will eventually arrive in the Debian system quite some time after it has been released. The earliest opportunity for it to be in a Stable release is next year when the new stable will be released. They have chased away the only Developer they had who used to do the fine backports of the newer KDE software for the stable release with their politics and internal fighting, he now runs Arch. When the new does show up it will be in the Unstable branch then move to the Testing eventually and they will be in no hurry for it to happen. You still cannot get a full Plasma 5 desktop from them that is up to date with all the fixes in that by running them every changing repositories as your source for packages. Let alone the KDE Gear suite of applications still stuck at their 22.12 versions.
You miss the Ubuntu alternative a Debian derivative with updated software. It being a middle ground between the true rolling release models of the likes of the Arch and a frequently more released distribution with updated software it is. For your comment on the hardware who knows if it is the new normal the parasite corporations are up to or not but as you have observed the computer parts market has radically changed since the pandemic began. I always have spare computer that I use to test the changes or new distributions on. An alternative to spare computer is spare drive in the machine or external drive for another install to test with. And as always backups of your personal data that have been tested to be correct not just done and forgotten. Made on a frequent basis.
Once you turn off the hyper-noisy default new-tab page it's actually quite good on tablets, especially with the sidebar + vertical tabs so most navigation and quick access is on the sides where you're already holding a tablet.
I still use Chrome on my desktops/laptops, but I've certainly found a niche where I prefer Edge even on Linux.
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 13:41 UTC (Thu) by pawel44 (guest, #162008) [Link]
I don't really fault Ubuntu for removing flatpak by default and have to wonder why it was added in the first place. They have an agenda with the snap packaging system that they develop and promote... and like already mentioned, users can manually install flatpak easily if desired.
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 1:02 UTC (Thu) by WolfWings (subscriber, #56790) [Link]
Supposedly there is an open source implementation of the snap backend but it is not current compared to what Canonical is actually running. Not trying to be an apologist for Canonical, just trying to make sure the info is somewhat fair and balanced. :)
While flatpak is certainly more open, to the best of my knowledge, there isn't much adoption with regards to third-parties setting up their own flatpak repositories. Flathub appears to be the primary place... and I'm pretty sure it has some connection with Fedora and/or Red Hat... whether that be in hosting funding and/or packager pool. It is kinda hard to find specifics.
One key difference is that snaps also do cli packages and Flatpak is mainly for GUI applications only. I also heard that Canonical has replaced some system packages with snaps... so snap is basically a requirement on Ubuntu as well as distributions that derive from Ubuntu who don't put in how much ever effort is required to excise it out. Mint has taken that effort, after butting heads with Canonical a few times, but I'm not sure about the rest of the Ubuntu downstream.
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 7:44 UTC (Thu) by WolfWings (subscriber, #56790) [Link]
Lines 154 through 173 and 283 through 328 began as a line or two of shell script that I rewrote in Python so I could massively improve performance by not forking a separate flatpak info -m subprocess for each package... so another near fifth is just boilerplate for "doing it properly" in a Python script that connects up to libflatpak rather than being a quick and dirty shell hack. (And some of it is reporting detected naming collisions or misconfigurations of the PATH.)Lines 105 through 109 are an unfinished workaround for Flatpak not providing a way to expose multiple commands in the manifest metadata and, even if they did, mednaffe's maintainer probably not bothering to expose the bundled copy of mednafen. (I still need to come up with a proper implementation to match Flatpak-installed .desktop files to packages to identify which ones need CLI wrappers created for them.Lines 117 through 147 amd 214 through 250 are just an improved reimplementation of the code Flatpak already has for generating reverse-DNS command-line launch wrappers. (This script began as a middle finger to such a Tab-completion-hostile solution.)Lines 188 through 211 are a workaround for the manifest not saying whether the command in the command field expects paths or URLs as arguments. No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 7:49 UTC (Thu) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958) [Link]
I realise some OSs only have a one-size-fits-all installation containing a full GUI environment, and encourage it to be installed on servers as well as on laptop/desktop/client machines, but I'd personally consider that to be a reason to choose a different OS for server use.
(disclosure: I'm an upstream co-maintainer of Flatpak, and it's installed on all my laptop/desktop/client machines but not on any of my servers)
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 17:28 UTC (Thu) by edwargix (guest, #136217) [Link]
GNOME Software and KDE's Plasma Discover each have a Flatpak plugin that makes them a suitable GUI for handling these files, and other desktop environments are welcome to develop something similar if they want to. The intention is that apps like those are the primary user-facing interface for installing and managing Flatpak apps: there is intentionally no GUI in Flatpak itself.
If you only have the flatpak(1) CLI, you can still use the URL of one of those files as a convenient command-line shorthand, but the CLI isn't an app with a .desktop file and so isn't in a position to be a reasonable MIME type handler. It's intended to be a combination of "behind the scenes implementation detail" and "advanced UI for command-line enthusiasts".
It would be fairly easy for Ubuntu developers to install a MIME handler for application/vnd.flatpak.ref that would install or run a suitable GUI on-demand, if they wanted to (but if they wanted to do this, they presumably would have done so already).
The "Ubuntu Software" package manager in Ubuntu 20.04 and older was a modified version of GNOME Software, but since 20.04 it was itself installed as a Snap app with the Flatpak plugin unavailable (and installing the Flatpak plugin via apt would result in having two very similar apps confusingly both identifying themselves as "Ubuntu Software", one Snap and one .deb, with installation of Flatpak apps only available through the .deb version, if I understand correctly). I'm not sure how this works in newer Ubuntu.
(disclosure: I'm a Flatpak upstream co-maintainer)
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 20:04 UTC (Thu) by edwargix (guest, #136217) [Link]
(Actually, that's not quite all I can do: I'm also periodically updating Flatpak's semi-official PPA for Ubuntu. But as not-an-Ubuntu-user with various other responsibilities, I'm really not the best person to be doing that, so it would be great if someone closer to Ubuntu could help.)
In Debian, GNOME Software and Plasma Discover are installed by default by their respective desktop environments, and both have optional plugins/backends for Flatpak and Snap. GNOME Software has a Suggests (weak dependency) on its Flatpak and Snap plugins, while Plasma Discover only has a Suggests on its Flatpak backend (it does have a Snap backend, but presumably its maintainers are less happy with the maturity of that one or some similar factor).
Because these "app store" apps handle both apt and Flatpak/Snap packages, they would also be well-placed to install their own Flatpak and Snap backends via apt on a just-in-time basis when asked to install a .flatpakref file or a Snap equivalent, but I don't know whether they implement that.
Ever since Debian 11 switched to enabling unprivileged user namespaces by default, Flatpak's sandboxing in Debian has been as good as it is in any other distribution. As far as I know, Snap's sandboxing partially relies on AppArmor, making it incomplete in all non-Ubuntu-derived distributions: Debian is closer than most, because Debian at least uses AppArmor by default, but Debian's kernel doesn't have various extra AppArmor features which are specific to Ubuntu kernels and were never integrated upstream, notably control over access to AF_UNIX sockets.
No more Flatpak (by default) in Ubuntu Flavors Posted Feb 23, 2023 18:55 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] 589ccfa754
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