A few years back I had recorded myself on the piano with a mic. Well, I cant play nearly as good anymore, but still would like to do some work on my song. Is there any way to give it a more stereo effect? Im guessing I am looking for a plugin to help me with this. I am going for this sound where the high keys sound like they are coming from the right side, and the low keys sound like they come from the left side.
Not sure what to do next! If I understood the plugins better maybe I can edit the dual tape decks to give me the separated sound im going for. Not distorted, but a great stereo atmosphere from my piano.
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You can get a very presentable fake stereo effect by simply delaying Right only without Left. If you listen in headphones (no computer speakers, please) your playing will become deep and wide as you increase the delay.
When Gregg Rolie played in Journey, he primarily played a grand piano and a Hammond B3 organ. Neal has claimed that Gregg also used a Mellotron on Any Way You Want It, and the inner sleeve of Captured shows Gregg with a Mini Moog on his keyboard rig along with a Prophet 5.
For both Faithfully and DSB I use a very bright layering of AddictiveKeys Studio Grand and the Forte stock "Bright 9' Grand" The AddictiveKeys is eq'd with most of the low end rolled off. Mix is roughly 60/40 AK over Kurz.
Side note, have a friend who uses UAD interfaces, so he can use UAD plug ins. He let me mess around one day. He has their Dimension D plug in, and dang it it doesn't easily give the Don't Stop piano sound with his PianoTeq Steinway D
Jonathan admitted that he recorded DSB on his Yamaha CP70 going through a Harmonizer set to micro pitch change. It's a nice effect. When I last covered DSB, I layered Kurzweil piano with chorused piano from my Andromeda, got pretty close.
Also, split keyboard using two piano patches on the LH (for bass notes) pretty much same as upper split, but one was +octave, and disabled the sustain pedal. Might sound weird, but it sounded better to me - kept the bass noted cleaner, easier to play cleaner when using some sustain on upper part...
The chorused/slightly-detuned Piano sound comes up in my playlists from time to time. While none of my bands do "Don't Stop Believing" or any other Journey tune (yet), that sound gets used for the Beatles "Birthday", and the Doors "Love Her Madly" and "People Are Strange". Like the MODX, my MOX8 gets that sound by moving the mod wheel up on just about any stock Piano sound.
I can think of lots of other tunes that use this sound that I don't play yet, that I'd like to... ELP's "The Sheriff" comes to mind. (Although that one would be a little more than just "slightly" detuned!)
It's not really because the bass line is being doubled on bass guitar - which disguises it a bit. I just listened to the track with phones, and as a CP80 owner it sure sounds like a CP70/80 to me. The RH part has the same steely attack and fast decay, but it's being fattened with chorus to smooth it out.
When the track starts I suspected something was going on with the bass line, but it's so well mixed that I kept scratching my head. Then in the chorus right after "Shadows searching in the night" there's that little one bar bass pop-up with the same sound.
My take on it anyway. I'll defer to David and the Journey experts. For the record I've never in my life played "Don't Stop Believin" in a band As a DJ I play the Mega Man and Panic City remix - which fattens this track up considerably while taking it up to a more contemporary tempo for dancing (123bpm).
The second Section Effect is dedicated to modulation effects like Chorus and VCM (Virtual Circuitry Modeling) Flanger and Phaser Effects (Note: The Wah effects mentioned above are also VCM). Each have dedicated [DEPTH]and [SPEED] control knobs. These effects are important stomp box effects in an electric piano set up.
VCM DRIVE simulates the sound of a tube pre-amplifier. It imparts a pleasant boost to the sound along with distortion. The [DEPTH] knob increases the distortion amount. DRIVE adds a cool character to the sound, especially the Rd and Wr Voice Categories. I almost always have it ON with the depth set to 0 and if I need more DRIVE I simply increase the [DEPTH]. Check out the difference between these two LIVE SETS on Soundmondo. They are the same 73Rd sound with drive OFF and ON:
The Rd Category are recreations of vintage tine pianos. As with the original instruments each one has a different character. As of OS v1.1 there are five different Rd Voices available in this category:
The Wr Category are renditions of classic reed piano. This instrument has a different character than the tine piano with a mellower sound due to the difference in the lighter reed chime. With CP OS v1.1 there are 3 versions each with a different timbral flavor:
The Clv Voice Category represent the plucked instruments. The Clavi B and S are popular in pop, funk, R&B and reggae. The predecessor to these instruments is the Harpsichord which is the other Voice in this Category.
The real time control, expressiveness and overall great sound quality of the Voices and Effects in the E.Piano Section offer a wide range of creative directions. Experimentation is easy and fun with the one-to-one user interface of the CP73/88.
First of all, it's not terrible at all; on the contrary, it's a sweet toy piano along with a tender short collection of percussive sounds. These can be quite useful to give a playful essence to the tracks.
This totally changes the way that I view Decent Sampler virtual instruments - they are all raw material! My only problem is that almost no-one ever responds to my requests to collaborate! ([email protected])
This apparently 'Terrible Toy Piano' (TTP) is a perfect example! The pitched sounds are definitely in the 'toy' realm (but when music hyper-company Yamaha can put a very posh 'Toy Piano' preset on their hugely popular Reface CP piano, then I say 'legitimised!'), but the sound effects are cool! So what does a code hacker then do?
Well, the pitched sounds have the release click at the end of the sample. I would split it into two samples: one the percussive part, and the other the release click. You then create two lines in a group in DS:
(Pianobook.co.uk sensibly remove some characters from these text fields, so you will need to add in chevrons etc. to the code fragments that I show here... If you are interested in understanding why they do this, then you might be interested in cyber security...)
The other thing I do is edit WAV files. There are often all sorts of gems hidden, lurking, un-noticed in there, and often, all it takes is a bit of serious editing or processing to bring out something really special. My 'Fairy Piano' uses lots of processing in several passes, to get to the final samples. TTP sounds like it has lots of scope to be explored in this way, and I love turning the unusual into the usable ('Bathroom Door' is one example). Actually, that sounds like a new tag-line:
The piano itself is just one octave long, and it does have a nice compressed character to it. You might want to keep it very short though, because if you hold the notes for anything other than a staccato, you will get some background noises.
In addition, the GUI offers an attack, delay and chorus knob, which by distorting the pitch, can make these cute animals seem very trippy and horrifying. Try to play around with those effects, I'm sure you will find it very interesting.
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There are many ways to accomplish a great piano sound. Today we are exploring 1 way. I encourage you to start here, and then begin to play around with what else you might be able to use, how else you can add a little character to your piano sounds.
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr The first track is a Wurlitzer EP, likely a 200A by the tone. You can find one in Neo-Soul Keys Studio & Neo-Soul Keys Studio 2. These Wurly models are very good, and while they don't sound EXACTLY like that track, it'll get your close and you can tweak from there.
The second track is likely a Rhodes EP, and it sounds like they are using some sort of a sustainer to get the tail. For a Rhodes you can use either NSK or Electric Vintage from apeSoft. They sound different from each other and again, not EXACTLY like the track but close enough to get you in the park.
Remember - because EPs are mechanical devices, they have a sonic personality much like a guitar in that the same year, make and model may sound wildly different from each other. Keep that in mind as you peruse the current EP apps.
Many thanks, my distinguished colleague. In the second one, if you ff to 24:20 you can hear the piano isolated. What is a sustainer effect on ios that would do that? This was made in the late 90s I think, FWIW. 152ee80cbc
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