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The Einstein Bundle starts with a comprehensive overview of the studies of physics and chemistry, then dives into the details of friction, biochemistry, optics, and more. By the end, your kid will have a well-rounded grasp of the physical world.

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My daughter is in 8th grade this year and I'm looking into her science sequence for high school. A lot of programs that I'm looking at do Physical Science in 9th grade. I don't see the point of this if they will do chemistry and/or chem and physics later? Our local high school does earth science in 9th grade, which I thought was pretty standard, and gives more exposure to different science topics.

Our local high school used to do physical science in middle school and then start biology in 9th. A few years ago they changed it and now all students are required to have physical science in 9th grade. Some of the other local schools do physical science in high school now too. I wonder if they did that because not enough students get to chemistry or physics.

There is no reason to do physical science in 9th if your student is going to do chemistry and physics later on. While it is not ideal to do biology first, it does alleviate the problem of not enough math for chemistry and physics. I recommend doing biology, chemistry, and physics in that order and then picking an advanced elective for the senior year.

Under no circumstances would I label your daughter as "not really a math and science person." I was also not really a math and science person in high school. Math was a disaster (Ds and Fs), and I took only biology in high school (biology, marine biology, botany, and AP Biology). After much mucking about, I ended up majoring in biochemistry, and I now teach other people's children math (and am considering getting a second bachelor's degree in math). Given my own experience, my advice is to prepare your daughter as best you can while allowing her to remain true to her strengths and interests.

We did it differently for one of mine. She did physical science in 7th, biology in 8th, chemistry in 9th, advanced biology (physiology and anatomy) in 10th, astronomy in 11th leaving 12 for physics, which in the end she decided not to do. She took this route because she took whatever co-op was offering at the time and was capable of high school work from middle school on. She won't get credit for the physical science year.

My next did physical in 9th, biology in 10th, will do chemistry in 11th. That leaves 12th for physics as well, but since she's only required three lab classes to fulfill the college prep program she's enrolled infir tuition waivers through our state, my guess is that she'll choose not to take physics either. I felt her physical science book included some topics that overlap into earth science, but not all. A great deal of it was intro to physics and chemistry with only a little math.

The problem is that in order to fully understand physics, you must understand math at a level that most 9th graders don't. So to do physics first it is necessary to dumb it down--and that need has given rise to what is called "conceptual" physics, which, while helpful for making physics more accessible to larger numbers of students, also loses the power and clarity that math brings. It is also the reasoning behind doing physical science in 8th or 9th grade--give an introduction to physics and chemistry so that that knowledge is in place before taking biology. But physical science suffers from the same problems that conceptual physics does, in addition to the fact that it is generally looked down upon as a lesser/middle school course.

I was also not really a math and science person in high school. Math was a disaster (Ds and Fs), and I took only biology in high school (biology, marine biology, botany, and AP Biology). After much mucking about, I ended up majoring in biochemistry, and I now teach other people's children math (and am considering getting a second bachelor's degree in math).

In my local high school the 9th graders who are not going to progress far in science take integrated chemistry and physics (basically physical science), then they take biology in 10th grade. The more advanced students skip ICP and go straight to biology, chemistry, and physics.

This year my son's school has required 9th and 10th graders to take a course called "Physical Science." This school is a supposedly rigorous college prep school and they even offer the IB Diploma Program in 11th and 12th grades. I have read on here several times that physical science is generally considered a middle school course and that colleges aren't impressed when they see it on a transcript.

The local public high school (considered one of the "best" in the state) has two tracks in science: The one for strong students and the one for not-so-strong students. The strong students take biology in 9th grade (which has Algebra I as a prerequisite) and the others take physical science. My point here is that this feeling that physical science is for weaker students is confirmed by this sort of tracking.

I tried doing a search and didn't come up with anything, though I know it's been discussed. So, what is the consensus on physical science in high school and what do you base your opinion on? Any links or other specific information would be most appreciated--I'm about to launch a campaign to make physical science go away at my son's school.

In our local high school, physical science is a standard 9th grade course. 10th is biology, 11th is chemistry, 12th is physics. This is the college track, if you want to call it that. The school has block scheduling, so it's easy to double up and take more difficult courses, if you're headed towards a STEM career.

ETA: I read your post more carefully. Are you saying your son's school requires physical science in BOTH 10th and 11th grades? Are they taking any other science simultaneously? And they do they truly mean physical science with little math?

Up until a year ago, my high school required all 9th graders to take physical science. Last year they changed their requirements and those students who have had Algebra I in 8th grade now can take biology instead of physical science.

Many of the public universities and community colleges in my state offer a class called Introductory Physical Science. It is a class for non-majors, and fulfills the general education requirement for science. Its typically a survey class. It starts off with some basic physics, and I believe it covers on the basics of chemistry, geology, astronomy, biology. ALL of the schools in my city use this text book. Its the same one that Derek Owen uses, I believe...

Actually, in our area, some of the college-prep public schools use 9th grade Physics (Physical Science or Conceptual Physics type courses) for just the opposite reasons. Instead, the philosophy of physical science first is -- that it makes the most logical sense to understand some of physical science, and build on that for chemistry and then biology (or often biology is before chemistry simply due to the math requirements in chem). There is no pretension that 9th grade "Physics" or Physical Science is the same as 12th grade physics, nor is there sheepish hiding of non-chemistry and math-based physics as if it were sneaking in a childish credit. It's simply a different philosophy about how best to teach science. Here are the syllabi for the regular and advanced 9th grade physics (physical science is what I'd call it, or at least conceptual physics) at one of the most college-prep public schools in our state, just to see the general topics (note that teacher-speak makes it all sound so very academic):

Our state has a physical science requirement as a high school credit. State universities have it listed as an expectation on their list of requirements for admission. It was 9th grade science when I took it. Looks like it can't count as a lab credit though here. ff782bc1db

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