Our hotel was in the Miraflores section of Lima. From everything I had read before going to Peru, Miraflores is the place to be in Lima. I found a pretty nice small property in Miraflores that offered free breakfast. It was clean and the breakfast was good. We enjoyed our time walking around Miraflores, with the ocean views, stopped for lunch at a cute little restaurant that was tasty, walked around a little more, then asked our hotel to call a cab for us to the airport.
I found an airport storage facility where we could store our luggage. After a few wrong turns in the airport, and being told by airport workers they had no idea what we were talking about when we asked for directions, we finally found the place. We gave them our bags, saw them whisk them away into lockers, got a receipt, and went back outside to hail a cab.
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Now for the bad part of the story. We had learned from earlier experiences you must ask before you even get into the cab how much the fare would be and how long the ride would be from taxi drivers in Peru, since none of them have meters. After settling on a reasonable price with a driver who was wearing taxi credentials and being told it would take about 40-50 minutes, we were off to Miraflores. Then things started going downhill.
After maybe 10 or 15 minutes in the cab, we could see things were not going well. The driver told us the ride would take more like 2 hours to get to Miraflores (we knew that was a lie). He also told us it would take longer to go by the beach than through the city (also a lie) and he would have to pay a toll if he went by the beach (also a lie), which would cost us more money. He kept insisting that all of this was true and we would have to pay 10 soles more than we agreed to at the beginning, which we of course disputed with him.
After about a 45-50 minute ride (which we noticed he took some crazy turns simply to add on time, and even questioned him about but he blew it off like it was nothing), we could see on Google maps that we were close to where we wanted to go. I should add that he pretended to only know how to speak Spanish, but by now it was apparent he knew more English than he put on, because he laughed when my daughter made a sarcastic remark about him in English.
Right- it could have been so much worse! I did think about that too, getting out of the cab. Who knows what that guy was capable of. Other than our last day in Lima, Peru far exceeded my expectations, so I will definitely be back, just not to the city of Lima!
The first time in Lima, everything was great and everyone was fair and nice. The second time we were in Lima was when we had the bad experience.
A few people have since told us about very bad experiences in Lima, worse than ours. Be safe!
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I have both repaired, and updated since I first saw it. Now it happened again just the other day.
Not all missions, but some missions can't be done with Lima.
Last such mission I tried, was "converted" from Hind to Apache.
I've had a similar issue with the Limas, (no track file, I was in multiplayer). On a 4ya server from a hover I had 6 misses and 2 hits with the Lima, I don't honestly know if it is the missile or user error. One thing I did notice, all my misses were shots at lower altitudes 35-ish feet AGL, and the hits were from 150 - 200 feet AGL.
It did appear that George found a target, lased it, and launched the missile, and then the missile fell short of the target. I would also be interested in feedback from ED or a SME as to why the missile was unable to hit the target, and whether in a real-world situation if it should have.
One thing to note: as you are starting up the aircraft, it doesn't look like you get a good IHADSS Boresight, but this shouldn't effect the missile being able to track. You do see that when you tell George to slave to your LOS, his crosshair ends up high and to the right of your LOS.
I can't speak for whether this particular track is playing back properly or not (though the OP can confirm), but I will say in my experiences both firing them myself from the front seat and from using George, I have seen many Limas missing their target and hitting the ground just like this, instead of finding any of the many tanks or vehicles it had to choose from in the vicinity.
First is that targets that are significantly above the aircraft don't cooperate very well with the way the missile works. All AGM-114 models outside of the P/R (and probably some other variants I'm forgetting) will climb to altitude based upon altitude at launch. That is to say, they don't know what altitude the target is at and will not climb up to meet it; there's a certain basket they look for and it's assuming a generally level altitude. I remember reading about this problem with AGM-114s utilized in Afghanistan early on, where extreme look-down angles would result in SAL missiles not catching the laser. This was more of a problem with missiles launched from fixed wing aircraft, but it was reported to have also impacted rotary wing.
The AGM-114L climbs to a fixed altitude based on distance with this same logic, expecting a target below itself and not above. As a result, if it catches a target level or above, it will make an extreme maneuver and bleed off energy as it tries to correct its ballistic trajectory, often ending up in the ground or next to an intended target. This is not a 100% always the case; in my testing, the missiles would pull off some pretty wild hits depending on target, launch angles, etc. There is a kind of sweet spot that can sometimes happen mid-range where the missile gets close enough at the peak of its climb to catch the target and hit without major ballistic changes, but this is hard to achieve with the typical LOAL launch. LOBL, on the other hand, has no such issues.
Second is that targets that are obscured all or partway from the missiles perspective can seemingly mask the seeker. This theory comes from a couple weeks ago where I fired off a missile with the wrong bias, where a forest obscured a significant portion of the missile's view. By the time it cleared the trees, it was already close enough to be terminal and hadn't acquired a target, resulting in a miss. I'd previously noticed this when targets were often in villages on Syria, where shots with the 114L could be flaky depending on aspect, range, and launch altitude.
This may or may not be the explanation for some of the performance issues being reported, but it may be something to consider when diagnosing the problem(s). I've attached some tracks demonstrating some of the behaviors I believe might be happening.
I tried playing your track and George fired the first missile but wouldn't shoot a second, so I'm not sure if it recorded right or not. Out of curiosity, I took control from the start and tried it myself, first using George (1 out of 2 hits), then jumped in the front seat and tried myself. Both my shots missed, so I took a look through the systems and the INU position was completely out of whack. I restarted the track and took control again, then double checked INU a second time, checking out this time. Unfortunately, the missiles still went haywire; in particular, they weren't climbing to an appropriate altitude. So I did an inflight reset of the INUs and the missiles finally started hitting, both with me and George. This might be more related to INU errors and drift bugs than the missile itself.
In my testing, the most significant impact is whether or not the missile has to climb up to hit the target. As little as 500ft of altitude above the launch point can result in either a miss or going for a different target. This was tested in several locations on the Caucasus around mountains, trees, and villages. As long as the aircraft is in a shoot-down position, the hit rate (and exact target hit rate) is almost perfect.
With my very limited testing so far it seem the RF's are VERY indiscriminate in their target selection. When engaging a group of moving targets I get a LOBL launch...which is expected and a RF MSL TRACK message. However, in this condition my missiles were still hitting other target than the ones designated. 152ee80cbc
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