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Welcome to jfm everyone in education. This is the exact show with Dave Leonard.
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Join as each Monday evening at 7:00 PM.
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Well, we will be discussing the latest developments in attack.
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And speaking to some of the biggest names in the edtech sector.
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Hello I'm gonna minute. I almost had a Gremlin member called him just before he got going welcome indeed to the edtech show.
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This is Joy FM and we are all about supporting everyone in education that can be everyone. No matter what role. They work in what country they work in anything for everybody and everything for everybody in education.
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As a result of that I really feel that it's important for me to share not just the great work that the.
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IT department do.
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This show, but also the amazing work that you can hear from Darren in the school show and from Sammy and the rest of the UN colleges collected in the Fe show that are available on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and their live at 7:00 PM. British summer time as well, just like we are, but tonight we are all about attack so this is the.it team will the.it Department and once again after done stepped into.
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Do his hosting bit last week. I'm back again. So I'm Dave wanted. I am the strategic.it director at Watergrove.
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Trust, which is a small trust of schools in the North West of England. I've been working in this game for about 18 years.
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I'm almost 18 years now working in education and I'm starting to show signs of wear and tear if I'm honest.
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It's been a great journey, though, and it's something that we are really starting to get a little bit more comfortable with.
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After 18 years, this time when I'm thinking you know what? Maybe I do occasionally know what I'm talking about.
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But tonight may not may or may not be one of those So what I've done is. I've got some guests involved and I can already see that we've got some listeners and some guests also in the live show.
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So if you're listening please. Please, please send us some messages I'm really pleased to welcome the one and only Ben Whittaker.
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Well, the other member to go or the original Ben Whittaker, depending on who you believe Ben dropped in to my to my episode a couple of weeks ago when I was interviewing.
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The other Ben Whittaker, so hi. Ben really good to see you again mate and don't forget I'm getting you on this show later on.
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Yeah, I've been there as well, I can see we've got Sammy with us again. Hi everybody, I'm so before we start and we get our first guests introduced we're going to kick off with a little view back as to what's been happening this weekend in the tech and the Ed Tech World.
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So this week, we had or last week. We had Google's io events which premiered some cool new bells and whistles for their workspace platform and showcase what we can expect in the coming weeks, and months.
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More on that later from our roving Reporter Peter Horner.
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Um it's nearly may half term in the.uk so teachers can stop pretending to like their older students in schools and colleges prepare to say goodbye to their year 11 and 13 students and hopefully to takes forever.
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My daughter had a message today, saying that her school was closing due to covid so they're going to remote learning so she inadvertently had her last day of school today without recognising that she was she was doing so.
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So having friends in her in the back garden, having a bit of an impromptu party so if that comes through into.
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Into the record.
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Hey so part of the atmosphere isn't it and what else has happened so also the Charlie bit my finger. Video is to be taken down from YouTube after selling goods and ft for over half 1,000,000 quid.
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Wow, so I'm only in it for a bit of a meme her, but that coming off YouTube leads me nicely onto introducing our guests this evening. All of which are on available and they run YouTube in their own right.
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So without further ado, I shall get my cursor working and get onto the right screen. So I can see what I'm doing. I'm going to introduce my first guest.
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So my first guest tonight is his old Kingsley, now now has a passion for all things education and technology. He's got 30 years under his belt working in the education and technology sector and it's fair to say that he wears a number of hats, in this industry. He is the chair of a number of Multi Academy trusts. He sits on the regional schools commissioners head teacher board and is a Forbes Technology Council member and the proud group MD of net support, which has over 18,000,000 users in 110.
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Country.
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Wow, all presents the cheque it out show on YouTube. See my seamless link to YouTube there. Alongside Mike Anderson also known as the ICT evangelist and as of July, he will be a published author al can you hear me Sir?
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I can indeed good evening to you fantastic.
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I'm fasting begun gremlins will have none of them tonight.
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Movies.
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Good evening well. Thank you so much for joining me mate lovely. As always to talk to you how's things with you?
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My brother.
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Things are pretty good. Thank you as hectic as always as it is for most people at the moment but I'm all life's pretty good. Thank you.
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Excellent excellent NSA alluded to in the intro. There are you. You've been busy haven't you doing, some some scribbling down in a book.
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I took a lot of time after my first plan was a colouring in book. Then I thought I did advance to pop out book and I've gone all in having some words.
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As well now wow well so tell us about that.
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Wow, what can I say 30 years of working in Edtech, wearing as you alluded to quite a few diff?
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That's why I kinda figured it's about time that I put it all down to paper before I forgot it all, and that started a few of my musings and then I kind of realised.
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Actually, when I'm writing a book I can say what I really think I don't have to worry about being too politically correct.
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I can share the good, the bad and the ugly, which is what I've tried to do and also there are times where around you know for perhaps best intentions at Tech can sometimes come across as being more complicated than it really is in its base value. So I wanted to kind of distil it down and make it.
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In my in my words as best I could accessible for and kind of signpost. Some of the lessons that I've learned and certainly some of the pitfalls. I've stumbled head first.
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2 as well as sharing device and words, the wisdoms from lots of people that I trust in the sector so that's kind of innocent up, Sis I guess.
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It looks like this sounds familiar doesn't sound familiar. Sounds fantastic and for those who are familiar with the Amazon platform. I believe it's available. From there as as well as all the other good booksellers and some bad ones as well.
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I actually am yeah couldn't decide the title initially so it will probably age. Some of the people who recognise the familiarity. But I called it my secret Edtech Diary, which was my nod to Adrian Mole so they are that's my laser pointer.
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I will hold on.
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And you probably not much older than 13 and 3 quarters years old are you well I.
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Chose not to put the age on the book for fear of perhaps pushing some potential readers away.
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Dave
I'm sure that wouldn't be the case an but we were also joined tonight by some some fellow YouTube stars. So we've already mentioned that you are taking part in your cheque it out.
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Show well with mark, but were also joined I'm delighted to say by both Corey Hurst and Ashley Fox, who had just about to invite into the studio now, so Cory and Ashley if I get my notes into the right place both worker Academy Middle East.
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And they hit it off, so much when they started working together. Then they decided to launch a YouTube channel about their shared passion.
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Med Tech Ashley worked in the marketing industry for around 6 years and taught English in South East Asia for about 5 years after which she thought she wasn't busy enough so she went back to school to pursue a Masters in educational technology.
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Corey has been teaching for 8 years, the first 2 of which were in Kuwait and one year into his teaching, he decided to pursue a Masters in Edtech through Michigan State Universe.
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Their YouTube channel, but I mentioned is called Ed Nificent attack and is brand new having posted its first videos just a week ago, so this is going to be fun because I've now got 3 guests in the studio and I've got to work out how to let each one of those speak.
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So I am going to press a button and I'm going to see whether we can hear let's start with Corey can, we hear you Corey.
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Oh, I sure hope you coming.
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No, we can't hear cord damn it, it.
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Was going so well?
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Actually can we hear you I'm trying to will mute you and once again this platform is being a little bit unpleasant to me and not let me speak to you.
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I can speak with you hear me.
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Oh, you did, he told me we've got this right so Ashley?
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But again, I have this book on my first show where I couldn't hear one of my guests and it looks like. That's Come Back to bite me on the bottom when Cory spoke there.
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So hey actually I'm going to speak to you because I can hear you and Corey if you wouldn't mind just disconnecting and reconnecting.
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That seemed to fix it with with Ben a couple of weeks ago actually how are you?
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I'm good how are you? How are you? How's
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Things going with Joy FM.
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Guys iwas going okay. Up until a moment ago when once again. I couldn't hear couldn't hear your yoga friend Corey but that's fine with Google Ladies first that's not a problem.
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What about yourself so you just started with this YouTube Malarkey and your first videos are now up and running?
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Hello Pat,
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Yet being sold for half 1,000,000 pounds, but it's only metric I'm insured.
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So that's why it may be.
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Maybe we can sell an nft as well.
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Yeah, absolutely I.
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Is that going if you've got some good feedback from the videos that you've released so far?
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Yeah, I mean, we've been doing pretty well. We posted about 5 or 6 videos on some pretty cool tools that you can use in school as a teacher and things that might help teachers online and we've been getting lots of feedback so far. We've got 25 followers within a week.
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I'm really happy about it and people seem to be really excited and they do like our content. So we're just going to keep going at it, but we're really excited about it seems to be getting some good.
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Get feedback so far.
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That's excellent and hopefully I'll have more than 25 followers after tonight, Curry can can I hear you now.
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Because I think you could hear.
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Me can you hear me?
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Me.
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So can you hear me now?
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Now yay excellent you're with me, it's fantastic. Thank you. Cory for Jainism and welcome to Joy fm's Ed Tech show how's things with him?
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Ohh very good, yeah, I'm hoping like you said. You might have your children in the background. And we're hoping that mine doesn't appear also you never know with 3 year olds so crossing my fingers.
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Yeah, my mind, Abit older than 3 she's she turned 16 at the weekend and we had. We had a festival in the back garden for her because you know you can't do a great deal else can you at the moment so yeah, so we had it?
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We had Amy Fest so happy birthday Amy. She'll never listen to this. I don't know why I bother saying that she doesn't listen to any of those rubbish I do, but maybe if she gets an interesting read sexual she'll listen to you.
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You guys, so I'm going to. I'm going to start off the first part of the of the show by by asking.
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So this is going to be a bit of a juggling act. I'm going to be coming to all three of you an I want really one of you to start off by telling me a little bit about you.
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Show how many episodes or how many videos you've gotten, and watch your intended audience, and I'm I'm seeing as I've got. I've got some luck with Corey. I'm going to start with you on that one.
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Okay, no problem.
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Yeah, so we're like actually mentioned were fairly new and we're just getting started with everything and you know building a following and we tried to lay down some some bass videos to get everything going and then we're going to start to develop more of a routine of when things are going to be released. From there at this point we have, I believe 88 or 9 videos that are up and run.
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With one planned.
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Live webinars that we're going to be doing with paradox.
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In the coming 2 weeks or so.
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It's going to continue to roll out as such pretty frequently or as much as possible anyway.
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That's fantastic, and and what kind of videos have you got? Open your channel at the moment.
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At the moment right now, what we've.
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We focused on doing.
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More like tips and tricks type videos, so things that are have either been requested of us by staff or educators.
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More things that we thought and found to be very beneficial to share that's what we have right now, but we're going to be promoting more videos.
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News in attacking things that are coming out, we want to do things where were interviewing where we have gas.
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We are, we have guest speakers come on who are displaying a product or a software that they have that sort of thing.
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An in addition to that we like I mentioned we want to do live webinars, so the live trainings where we have either ourselves, but
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If we can of course, people from specific specific companies or specific apps or software that can come on, and help us do the training as well. So those are kind of our short term goals anyway to get that going.
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There.
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Fantastic, I was checking out a video that you made actually earlier today about about.
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Woman, you seem to be getting some good feedback on that is William a product? That's that. You've used a lot through lockdown, like a lot of teachers have.
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Yeah, actually loom is been pretty helpful. I I was doing it using it and even in my Masters degree or just sending video messages and it's really great for doing walkthrough for either students or teachers.
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If you have to explain something and it's just that it's a It's a wonderful tool. They used to be for business only and then they discovered it really helps schools as well So what?
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What they did?
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Is they created and educators account so you can now register for free if you'd like whereas it used to cost the price, which is really, really helpful for teachers.
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I think as there's a lot of screen recording platforms out there that are still charging and this is one that was a.
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Man, it's pretty cool, it's pretty helpful so.
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Scan it, they've committed to being free to it, free to educate us forever, haven't they? I know that some companies had released free versions for for Lockdown, but.
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I think it's a. It's a good promise to put in place and I think it allows people to to commit to using and getting to know how to use a platform with some confidence that it's still going to be available to them in the coming weeks and months.
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So, so that's that's pretty cool an all. What about your YouTube venture with Mark? Can you tell us a little bit about the cheque it out show?
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I can yes, it was a bit of a young experiment really those who know me know that when we're at trade shows, we've all.
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Tried to create a space to give a platform for both educators who want to share best practise, but also new product start. Ups give a bit of a voice and of course, with the absence of places to go face to face and meet and share ideas.
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Become a thought why don't we provide an opportunity to just give people a quick opportunity and by quick I'm in a 5 minute pitch just to talk about what their new solution is how it will benefit people, and of course, what makes it different?
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I'm I'm gonna put the word out to see who would be interested in getting a chance to share their technology.
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An surprisingly we were fairly well in updated so we didn't have first show an we've now done 7 shows.
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I think each from about 2 hours long so 15 or products. Each each episode. Anne last week. We did our first one, which was student voice so young people from schools across the.uk in the Middle East as in Europe from Spain, sharing projects or different ideas that baby?
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Working on in innovation and it's kind of created a bit of a sort of a snowball effect really it's got my mind it.
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Home now, and we've got the next couple of months lined up already and squared away and it's sad. I mean, there's so many great new innovative products out there.
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Lots of them are really, really nice to see our educators looking at ways to take a step into the commercial world.
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Take the ideas that they want to share in the classroom and make them available to others and then. Yeah, it's nice that you can share stuff and learn and get loads of great ideas at the same time, so we've been really, really.
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Select.
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Yeah, so the student centred episode go outside. I think that's a really important viewpoint that sometimes can be overlooked.
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Count in in ad tech and and by schools when choosing products and platforms. Did you get any insights from the students that surprised you?
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I got so many I mean, first and foremost. It was just amazing to see young people from around the world some very young.
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So articulate and confident in presenting what they've been doing in working on and that in itself is great and then there was alongside that.
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I think there's quite a lot about student voice about being digital leaders within schools, the projects they've taken.
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I'm bored we had a collection of students from Abu Dhabi, who are in the world. F one championship finals for designing vehicles at that's such a diverse set from all age groups. But I think the most important is just the confidence and how young people, sharing their successes and ideas inspires their peers, which I think often can be far more powerful voice than adults share the same message.
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Yeah what about Ashley enquiry? If you have much experience in working with students when choosing their tech products or recommending attack products to students.
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Recording do you wanna go first you want me to?
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I take it away.
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Anyway.
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Wait, what?
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I said take it away.
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I will take it away. I won't talk, too much. But I like talking about sorry guys.
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Except.
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This kind of what?
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Radio is all about we need you to talk otherwise the people just sitting there fiddling with thumbs.
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What are you doing?
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So I I have actually had a lot of experience in one of the exciting things about being in Tech.
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Ed is you know, knowing about what's out there and being a good digital citizen yourself and you know, I've got students who come to me? Who are learning on line, you take esl for example, esl has been such a struggle, especially with covert.
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And a lot of students just don't know what's out there cause I used to having that assistance and so I love that I've been able to advise some tools that might help for example, are Grammarly is brilliant. I mean kids who don't remember grammar concepts, and they need help. That help for writing because they're not in a vinglish speaker. It's been an excellent tool to recommend to some of my students and then you know, there's there's other tools like I XLS well, it's very helpful.
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For practise reading.
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There's so many things out there, though, that's The Amazing thing about it. There's almost too much.
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So it's been fun. You know being able to advise stuff and I'm I'm still learning as I go because there's always new things every month.
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Yeah, what about you probably.
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Phone.
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What are your students? But they taken too?
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What's really cool about my role anyway is that in addition to being a teacher. Musclely teacher of the lower school in middle school and what that means is that I have a lot of well have a lot of communication with all the teachers pretty frequently and being in my position where I'm also fascinated an.
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Hour working with.
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With attack is that?
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Teachers, who come to me.
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With an issue from students.
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As well looking for something or looking for tool is going to help.
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When something whether it be esr like like Ashley was mentioning or simply you know just.
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Tools to help them.
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Um.
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Obviously, the students are looking to.
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Differentiate their learning, but you know in our terms were looking to differentiate learning to.
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Our students and I can help the teachers do that. I do of course, students myself. But oftentimes I'm having these these teachers come to be looking saying.
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Their students need this help for those students need help doing this, or that and I get there and I really love that about my job.
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Dave
That's great, I think we'll just take a little moment to breathe now and we don't have adverts on the show, but what we do is we like to encourage people to engage with us via social media. So Sammy has got a little message for us.
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VRJ fmkeeptheconversationgoingchina'slifebythepuppynapwhereveryougetyourpodcastsaftertheshow@joyfm.co.uk and on Twitter, we are Joy FM everyone in education.
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Dave
Thank you, Sammy, and if anybody who's listening to this day, the pub being up would like to send some questions in, maybe you can suggest to as what your favourite Edtech tool is what the what your favourite YouTube channel is to learn about using Edtech.
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Because we've talked about podcasts in the past on the show and what your favourite podcasts are. Feel free to share those again, but maybe some YouTube channels that we can share with our listeners so that they can find some more cool things to do.
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To deal with Speaking of cool things, we have the most premier feature on this show, and it's not been shoehorned in at all honest, but we have our weekly cryptic Edtech quiz, so I'm sure that I would guess live will get chance to crack at this later on.
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But for now, if you could just bite your tongues, so I would cryptic ad tech quiz, which is a big favourite part of the quest, by the way.
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It's it's a bit like your cryptic clues on your crosswords, but instead of justice being random things, we all of our answers are to do with with Edtech, their edtech tools, or ad tech companies, so that things like that last week. If you remember, the question was graft in a vacuum murders the letter S.
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Which very very long winded explanation turned out to be work space skills.
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And this week, if you don't get it, don't worry about it. But this weeks, I think is a little bit easier.
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I've tried to dumb it down a bit because it was breaking some peoples brains, so this week's Attack cryptic quiz question, which is a lot harder to say than it looks when I've written it down in front of here. The question is tiny squidgy sports collectives. That's tiny squidgy sports car.
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Actives so those of you in the chat to want to play along and this doesn't include my fellow hosts who've got access to the document which has got the answers on so.
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Unfortunately, I bet you're right, you're disqualified before you even start on this one. Play along and put your guests in the chat so that we can hear what you've got to do.
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What you think?
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About maybe and whilst you do that will move on to the next section of the show and I'll come back to my guests and I've got a very an almost existential question for you here.
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What is attack? What is it that you think?
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Define defines edtech. I'm going to start without on that one because I think it's a. It's a heavy question to ask, and I've just dropped it on you. And if I know you, Mr. Kinsey, you're very good at thinking on your feet.
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Overall, this stick with tiny switches that was the mindset at the moment I pondered this question a few times myself because.
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In the simplest sense, I suppose most people assign edtech to technology that's used within an educational setting and that normally gets translated down to tech in the classroom.
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Actually made the points. I like to kind of argue is that actually we kind of need to broaden that lens and actually edtech.
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Now I think applies to technology that is in any shape or form, having a positive impact on the operation of an educational establishment because there's a huge correlation between the way that different things.
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Interlink from infrastructure to the physical curriculum tools in the classroom to the tools that provide that connectivity.
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Between learners and teachers and so on, so I kind of think nowadays when we think educational technology. It's any technology that's used by our school or trust or district.
Dave
That's interesting, now we can find out whether that's the correct answer, because I've mentioned is younger.
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Oh God, it's a quiz is.
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It no, no. No ice in Spanish. What well, as I said in the intro.
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But if actually in Korea I've got, I've got masters in Ed Tech, is that right? Is of a under soldier oversold you there guys.
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No no that's correct that's correct for me.
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Masters of Edtech surely have missed you YouTube channel now.
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In there it's like.
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Emailing mixtures of the universe, but you guys are masses of edtech, so so, So what about the people who have studied this to a high level? What's your definition of what is Ed Tech?
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So when during during my studies and beyond emerge. We looked at very closely. If you're familiar with the tpac model and what?
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Is is a its multi model but it's it's?
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Kind of been diagram right Anuhea.
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You.
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Have your pedagogical knowledge your content knowledge in your technological knowledge and point where those 3 meet in this diagram is the T pack. So it's like that, Sweet spot, so the idea of this is that?
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You shouldn't just employ technology because it's fun or because it's a cold piece of Tech. And yes, I mean, we've all we've ever attack. But we can just start using something because it's fascinating what we have to do is we have to align what how we teach and what we're teaching.
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To help solve the problem using the technology and that's more or less? What would I find at attack to be is these tools that are helping us meet these pathological or pedagogical and content related problems.
Dave
So are you completely aligned with that description? It can you elaborate?
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Hey man, you know, I really liked the way that it was kind of simplified earlier, which is basically you know it's it's looking at a way that it's useful in education, but as Cory said.
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You know you can't just.
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Implement it in anyway shape or form, you have to identify evaluate figure out what?
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This education needs before you just simply applying those.
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I like that, he
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He did, he did actually highlight one model, but there was quite a few there's you know there's
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Their summer there's there's the wrap model. There's Cpac is design thinking. There's little blooms. You look at it and you just gotta think? What do you think would benefit the school where they are at right now and how would it help?
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Myers.
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Suit an I I didn't when I when I studied my Masters. I was looking at all of these models an.
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It was tough to really decide what it is that was the what I felt was the best way to fit in that technology integration and I did.
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I did like the model that that Corey mentioned and I also think that I really appreciated you know digital Bloom study, or what was it.
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Visual Bloom said, Yeah, so it's really just looking at things as a whole kind of like a puzzle and then sort of creating a prototype and then deciding what it is that would really help that education.
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Infrastructure.
Dave
Yeah, some is mentioned in the messages. People get far too touchy over TI. Pak Versus Summer is survival for the right job and I think that's that for me.
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Hello.
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Is is probably my definition of event tickets. The rightful right tool for the right job when you, when you're teaching somebody isn't its attack, can be a piece of chalk on a blackboard, and probably was a piece of choking the blackboard for a long time.
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Dave can I ask you a question I was just interested hearing hearing the other other XP?
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Else's.
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Take back office is a really good example and that that central sweet spot. The reason why I kind of challenge it a little bit.
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Maybe it's his down to kind of language interpretation is if we think of some of the biggest challenges right now in schools. It's not all fundamentally pedagogy with looking at well being and how we're keeping our kids safe from those tools attack, even though they don't fall into that overarching Venn diagram that has pedagogy as part of that those 3. Those 3 strands.
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So to me that's the reason why if you take it as the centre of the 2Pac, then diagram you preclude anything that isn't about teaching and learning when actually there are just as many other factors that are key to successful educational experience.
Dave
I think that's a really valid point, and I just wish that I was clever enough to study for a masters in this and be able to respond to you well, but thankfully that This is why.
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I've sent myself up for bruising here, I know, but nonetheless.
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I just survived.
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I don't know I I I'm kind of sitting back.
Dave
And listening to this, I just surround myself with knowledgeable people.
Dave
I think that's a way to get ahead in life, isn't it? So so actually, Corey, what's your response to that can?
Dave
Can a teapot be considered valid when there are tools that aren't about pedagogy?
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What is very well said and you have an excellent point the fact that there's so much more to school then just simply simply the pedagogical knowledge of the content knowledge that's coming from the curriculum.
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It I don't know I.
Speaker 4
Don't know what more to say than very well.
Speaker 4
Said and and you know it.
Speaker 4
It needs perhaps it needs to be adapted and.
Speaker 4
In a way that meets those yeah.
Dave
Actually, what about you? Are you going to fight the corner with Deepak?
Speaker 3
How many you know and it's so funny that I'm hearing this because I mean? I just finished my Masters degree. An I have just joined the realm of Adtech, where I'm learning.
Speaker 3
Through this podcast that there.
Speaker 3
This podcast that there.
Speaker 3
Is actually a strong opinion amongst the models so?
Speaker 3
Yeah, I don't know I I do like feedback on a lot of people in my school did appreciate tepak.
Speaker 6
Speaker 3
Anne and tea.
Speaker 3
Packers ever it is it is quite.
Speaker 3
I mean, it is a good argument.
Speaker 3
What what would be the right one?
Speaker 3
So as I as I look at both I think I would prefer tepak. Honestly, I like. I like to pack more than summer. But for those of you who like summer don't don't hate me.
Dave
For that, I think I think okay, I'm going to step in as judge and not jury because I don't think I need to make a decision either way.
Dave
I was always taught that Sammy wasn't meant to be aspirational. That's something that we've covered on the learning despite podcast in the past that the completely forgotten the name of the gentleman who came up with the model now.
Speaker 2
Open control zone.
Dave
Yes, thank you very much. I'll see, but what did I just say about surrounding myself with intelligent people? He made the point that it wasn't meant to be aspirational, didn't summer, and I think that.
Dave
Just because something sits outside of a model, there are just almost a proof of model, isn't it? Sometimes, but there are exceptions.
Dave
Every good models, even a Venn diagram have things that sit outside the Venn diagram, doesn't it? And I think that it's a.
Dave
It's a great provocation Alan we've got. We've got deep on this I don't know this is this is that.
Speaker 6
Oops.
Dave
I mean, yeah, don't know last great, so let's let's go in directions that I didn't expect. I spent the first one trying to make up silly.
Dave
Jokes to get me through stumbles at Maidstone.
Dave
So now I think that's really interested. What does the audience think about this? The audience are very quiet tonight, so I'm wondering about whether that's because they're all stroking their chins and wondering whether.
Speaker 3
I got one thing I wanted to add there. I was learning about when I was when I was studying and I was learning about these model.
Speaker 8
Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 3
It was so.
Speaker 3
Tough when I was analysing them coz some of it, you know, I saw an evolution there and I saw why some of them were developed and why they existed at some point because it all started from you know model in particular at the beginning and So what they did in our programme as they put us, they had us go through a series where we watched I don't know if you've heard of the school learning from Stanford.
Speaker 6
Speaker 6
Dave
I thought for everyone it myself, but then I've only proved I'm not the most intelligent person on this call by some long distance so please.
Speaker 6
Nothing.
Speaker 9
Ghost girl.
Speaker 8
I'm writing this.
Speaker 3
Not absolutely so basically it goes through where there's a lot of questions asked before you design. The prototype and then you design. The prototype and then you test it and then you go back and you decide does it work and then you tweak it again and then you build it again until you see more and more improvements overtime.
Speaker 3
As you're implementing you know, these tools in the school and I really like this idea. So I sort of kind of did step away from those models cause I realised that there. There is an evolution and sometimes when you're implementing things. Aztec is starting to evolve quite rapidly. You are integrating this sort of in your own design structure if that makes sense.
Dave
Yeah, so it's a bit like Demings model isn't it? Have continued something.
Dave1
Yeah, so.
Speaker 9
Find it yeah.
Speaker 3
Yeah, so I I.
Speaker 3
Really enjoy it coz we did it, we did. We did a bit of a practise with it. And I really enjoyed going through it. An it sort of helps me look at all of these models from a different perspective.
Speaker 3
Yeah, again tea packets, I mean, probably the best, though so cool.
Dave
Okay, well I'm going to move swiftly on because we're at that stage now.
Dave
We've all been talking for a little while, and so we're going to call in our roving reporter Ann. We're going to see what's in Horner's corner this week.
Speaker 8
Horner's corner.
Dave
So I alluded to this earlier, pizzas been sniffing around what's been coming out to Google Io, and he's got a little update for us, so Pete's over to what's been happening in the world of Google Io.
Dave
I should really work out how long it takes to queue these people voted.
Speaker 5
Hi everyone, my name is pizza corner and welcome to this week's antec corner and this week on the Main.
Speaker 5
Sorting about again will IO, which is Google's annual developer conference. This is where it introduces new software updates and hardware products.
Speaker 5
Leaving tonight is usually the most exciting pool and this is where Google makes for big announcements. There also plenty of technical sessions workshops and meet ups and you can access all of these recordings on Google's website simply head over to events.google.com slash io. Vera huge number of incidents in the opening keynote. I'm just going to highlight a few which caught my here, Google announced Android traffic, but you have a brand new material design interface is got some new features such as free OS can adapt for systems colours.
Speaker 5
It's a match football preview for selected.
Speaker 5
And it was a nice evening privacy features built in cable also showed off its Nylander AI Language and model.
Speaker 5
So Google created Lander to make interactions with I feel more free flowing and I needed just like conversations in life for demos showing humans having conversations with the plumber Peto and I paper aeroplane were very impressive so highly rec.
Speaker 5
And going back and watching that part of bikini bottom biggest updates, especially for education is Google's announcement of a new smart, canvas, which is a new initiative for Google workspace that will make it easier to collaborate between different products.
Speaker 5
Features include smart chips that link to other workspace apps and also the ability to star meet video call right for making doc sheets or slide, OK, so let's start a bit deeper into their Google workspace updates with smart Cam.
Speaker 5
Yes, some festival small chips are dynamic objects you gravitate inserts into Google Docs or use movie at symbol so for instance, you can just small chips to link to another document or sheet and have our annual document in line allowing agents scroll. Through it in reserves will hover box and it would work with any formal documents stored in Kingwood.
Speaker 5
Drive even more soft office documents will also be able to use react similar to bring up custom templates for things like project management tables complete with voting and task management.
Speaker 5
Infrastructure meeting temporary it will also populate smart tags for the attendees and any files attached to the calendar invites another conference.
Speaker 6
Speaker 5
This method will automatically be synced changing tasks were shaken up course access through Gmail will be Android app. Another feature I think is low. Energy is Google Docs is getting any pages viewed Vincent's Versarien's only page breaks or boundaries of the page to create a surface expands to whatever screen is worth more visual make it much easier to work with wine tables, large images.
Speaker 5
And detailed feedback in comments and still be able to Prince. The docket will convert it to PDF but let's face it, most documents don't get printed anymore.
Speaker 5
So I think this is going to be a really useful updates. Another nice this Wednesday in Dorset. Is is getting amusing reactions. So you can change your team or class reactions using emojis in Docs.
Speaker 5
Sheets is also getting a few updates, such as I need time envy for project management and tracking tasks.
Speaker 5
And she's also gonna get a bit more intelligent about watches, suggesting formulas virtual hopefully saving time and often troubleshooting from broken formers.
Speaker 5
But one of the most exciting updates. I think is for new inspiration. We have Google meet and docs sheets and slides.
Speaker 5
Remind me to present content to like equipment directly from a duck shoot or slide where you only working routine or class and then in May this year and will even be able to Freestone, Google.
Speaker 5
Cool, from directly in a dog sheet will slide on the web. So you'll be able to see and hear each other while you're collaborating in that document.
Speaker 5
If you're interested in watching any of the duo S Sessions and then head over to events.google.com slash io.
Speaker 5
Thanks for listening to this week's attack corner in floaty connected via Twitter and let me know what your favourite Google. Io updates are then my Twitter handle is at Peter G Horner.
Dave
We almost got it though, didn't we? But once again, the platform just got me at the end and thank you very much Peter. And that was this weeks.
Speaker 8
Horner's corner.
Dave
And as we can see, all couldn't wait to get his answer in there, but we finally got somebody who's guest. One of our clues so.
Dave
Tiny squishy sports collectives is. I'm going to give you the owner of saying this out loud are rather than just letting people be people read it. What's the answer? For this week's cryptic quiz up?
Speaker 2
Microsoft Teams.
Dave
Get in there. Somebody else's brain works. In my the same way as mine, which I must say is probably bad news for you.
Dave
Well, but but thank you very much for breaking it down that way as well. So tiny is micro squidgy soft and teams or sports collectives that easy.
Dave
Who could you couldn't have got that actually, you said you wouldn't have guessed that where you're just being sarcastic.
Speaker 3
I really didn't know.
Dave
He provided you.
Dave
Probably just have a brain that works in a more standard way. Then rather than I did in my mind as Corey.
Speaker 8
We might find out.
Dave
Did you get that one? Absolutely not.
Dave
Congratulations to both of you. Okay, I am due to band to play this.
Speaker 9
VRJ fmkeeptheconversationgoingchina'slivebythepatinawhereveryougetyourpodcastsaftertheshow@reaffirm.co.uk and on Twitter, we are Joy FM everyone in education.
Speaker 6
Dave
So we're coming towards the final third of the show now. It's been very interesting for me. I've learned a few things.
Dave
Already, but what?
Dave
I really want to know now from my guests is yet another open ended question to throw at you without any preparation beforehand. And it's a nice little one. What does the future hold for the Ed tech industry?
Dave
We've written a book on this kind of thing. Let's start with you mate.
Speaker 2
Well, I have to charge you one pound 99 to give you.
Dave
The answer I'm afraid I have priority over your book from Amazon. I've already promoting Ultra deep into retirement from Sir.
Speaker 2
Okay, I'll give you a sneak peak, then well, I suppose, the truth is, you know, I always try and take.
Speaker 2
The glass is half full you know, I think the thing that attack holds for the future is opportunity. There are so many different solutions and tools available, but have the potential.
Speaker 2
Have a positive impact and impact of course, is the key thing with the move towards a much more of a mandate towards solutions.
Speaker 2
Having a research informed base that evidence behind them as to how they're going to have a positive impact. You alluded to something where Orthorexia Horner's cornered in terms of one strand that certainly interest me a lot, which is AI and how that can have an impact on things like personalised learning. I also think in terms of Accessibility that the voice as a replacement for the keyboard for some.
Speaker 2
And ability to use that as an interactive tool think has great potential.
Speaker 2
It's like everything it's always about how do we weed out the stuff that's really going on impact from the stuff?
Speaker 2
That's just gonna confuse take time drain resources and perhaps not have the the call you know research and pedagogy behind it.
Speaker 2
That will actually have an impact, so I think it's really positive. I think the thing I've also learned from doing the checkout show and from the community in the.uk is that you know around the world is the case, but certainly.uk we've got a really thriving and text.
Speaker 2
So lots and lots of small companies as well as Big Lots of new entries. Lots of start ups people who are moving from education who want to share their ideas for the better of all, so from that point of view it's really exciting as well.
Dave
Cool, what about? Let's go to Corinne at next week. What do you think the future holds for the Ed tech industry?
Speaker 4
Well, it's it's hard to follow up on somebody who wrote a book on it.
Speaker 4
But I'll tell you.
Speaker 4
Bring it bring me in the online sector of Education. I mean, our schools almost fully online.
Speaker 4
We've seen because because of covert but even even before covered in more recent years. We've seen an increase in the amount of students that are learning on line for one reason or another.
Speaker 4
And I think that there's already know there's already so much attacking geared towards online learning. Of course, but I would suspect even more so.
Speaker 4
The the idea that we're going to even when schools go more or less back to normal. I still think we're going to see an increased amount of students learning on line. For whatever reason, it is whether it's lifestyle choice or safety reasons ET cetera.
Speaker 4
And I think that the ad tech market is going to be even more geared towards this.
Speaker 4
And making it so.
Speaker 4
The ad tech.
Speaker 4
Apps and services that we've been using or accustomed to are going to start promoting more ways of connecting with the online learners and helping the online teacher so.
Speaker 4
Maybe I'm wrong, but I I I kind of.
Speaker 4
Perceived this as as a?
Speaker 4
The online education is and isn't going to go anywhere.
Dave
This is a great thing about questions like this, isn't it? Their open ended the crystal ball times and you know, unless we listen back to this in three 4-5 years Time Noble, nobody will know who was right and who was wrong. It's just interesting to get that that opinion. Actually, I've given you the hardest job in answering this question. In leaving you to till the end. What are your thoughts as to what the future holds for the Ed tech industry?
Speaker 3
Man, I think I missed Corrie here. I yeah, I think that as people are discovering and it might not just not be coded promoted necessarily wears people are worried about safety, but one of the key points that.
Speaker 3
I think people are discovering and it's not for everyone. Some people really need that physical assistance in school, so they don't want to learn online. But I think some people are discovering that maybe they're better learning online.
Speaker 3
Then they are in the classroom and so for that reason, I think it's developing it. It could be developing a bigger classroom audience. In the future as well. So I think there's going to be a higher demand.
Speaker 3
Definitely.
Dave
Yeah, it was interesting, wasn't it? To see how certain students thrived in this new way of working, there is some that founded a real challenge.
Dave
And there others that we perhaps didn't expect to thrive through, really embraced this new way of working and think. It just reminds us, doesn't it that it's not a one size fits all solution?
Dave
Isn't education?
Speaker 6
Yeah.
Speaker 6
Dave
And it is about Personalising, and I think that for me is is where we should be looking for the future for any ad tech solution.
Dave0
That's all.
Dave
Yeah, and soon as I made it hardest for you last time, actually I'm going to stick with you. What about your future for you?
Dave
What does the future hold for you? What's your plans for the for the coming weeks, months, years, decades to come?
Dave
Because you guys are all still so young, but you've got the world at your feet. What's what's the world?
Dave
Good for you, ohh.
Speaker 3
Man, I don't know I mean, the world is an ocean and for me personally, it would be great to start a new ad tech consultancy and maybe that's where this is going one day because you know, there's lots of schools and.
Speaker 3
You know, opening that might be different models, and then there's just a lot of it's. It's really, I don't know it's it's kind of like an unpredictable time, and so it is interesting.
Speaker 3
And I mean I would love to try and start a consultancy honestly. Or you know and continue teaching as well as I do enjoy tea.
Speaker 6
Speaker 3
But it's nice to be a big part of that change as well. Or you know those those evolving times an be a support.
Speaker 3
Through that, I think it's been not only a good learning experience, but a good challenge and I like to be challenged and I like to learn a lot, so it's fun.
Speaker 3
And it's also fun partying that knowledge on to people. And I really enjoy it. So I guess in a way, it's kind of like teaching Ed Tech as well as just being a teacher myself. So yeah, I mean, I could see I could see his starting to consult.
Speaker 3
And see you know, maybe in the future one day. But right now we.
Speaker 3
Really were really excited.
Speaker 3
About United Nificent an I. I think that might not be potentially where this is going.
Speaker 3
Excited about it? I mean, these are fun times so.
Dave
Excellence and I'm going to mix it up and go to hell in the middle this time. What about you? What's the future hold?
Dave
Yeah.
Speaker 2
Goodness I'm well, I still got loads of ideas and products that I'd like to develop with the team and that will probably keep me out of mischief for for the next few years and I continue to spend time.
Speaker 2
As you know working supporting Matt still transformation and it's something I really enjoy so I think I'm just going to carry on, doing what I do at the moment cause I really do enjoy it.
Speaker 2
I will say just looking at some of the graphics to go with the YouTube stuff, Agnes and it looks really, really cool with some great subjects there, so I would definitely recommend.
Speaker 2
Anybody who's got 5 minutes to cheque it.
Speaker 2
Out I've just subscribed to the chat.
Dave
So we've got you at least one extra subscriber today then that's great. Well two actually. Coz I subscribe earlier today as well. So you got me and Alan board as well have.
Speaker 4
There you go thank you.
Speaker 3
We don't enjoy it.
Dave
Yeah, but I say I certainly especially enjoyed the the couple of episodes that I got chance to checkout in preparation for today.
Dave
I know that you guys were sent me the link to a couple of weeks ago and I kept checking it and there was nothing there.
Dave
And then I just missed the last week, the exciting times with all the other lunch videos. So I've got some homework to do myself when I finish this query. What about yourself? What's the future?
Dave
Cold for you.
Speaker 4
Well, well first of all right right back at you, I I I after talking after.
Speaker 4
Really setting setting this up.
Speaker 4
Then I was introduced to to cheque it out show. I'm in love with it. It's great. It's it's it's wonderful and you've got a subscriber as well.
Speaker 4
In me, I'd have it for.
Speaker 4
Side effects.
Speaker 4
Speaker 4
For me, I you know.
Speaker 4
When I when I took, I took my current job.
Speaker 4
At the time I was in the Middle East and I visited the offices of the school because we have physical offices in Dubai and I visited them and one of the individuals I met there said when you go online, you don't go back and at the time I didn't really think much of it.
Speaker 4
But now eight years on it's it's. It's true I I can't see myself going back into a classroom, a physical brick and mortar classroom. And I'm.
Speaker 4
Going to be on line for the indefinite future. What that will entail, I like to move more into an admin role, but still working with with the ad tech in the ad tech support of teachers.
Speaker 4
However, moving into more of an admin role, an last on the teaching side of things is more just for my interest is lying, but in terms of still being on line, working on line and doing that support role for our students and staff would be ideal for me.
Dave
That all sounds like interesting futures. Really. All you've been doing things very well for awhile, so why change and you guys have got big plans, which is which is great to see.
Dave
I've got one more question for you before I. Before I ask you that question and wrap up the show again.
Dave
I want to just remind people that you've enjoyed listening tonight. Then tomorrow night will be even better with fewer Gremlins because Darren will be hosting the school.
Dave
So and then on Wednesday, we've got Sammy an the and colleges group with the Fe show. So really I think one of the things that I took her to Sammy Shore last week was that I don't work in Fe.
Dave
I've not necessarily got the history of dealing with EFI or or even an interest in Fe necessarily, but I loved listening to the show because all these shows are for everyone in education, and I hope that people who listen tonight might realise.
Dave
This would have been useful for teachers in schools and colleges so so share the show's share. What's coming up.
Dave
And Speaking of what's coming up next week, in fact it's not next week. Yes, we were having a little break.
Dave
Next week is half term here in the UK, so there's a little break and then after half term when we return refreshed, we're going to be hosted in the Edtech show by my very good friend, Mr Abbott Patel. So Abd can you tell us a little bit about what's coming up when you can?
Speaker 7
Everyone it's me Abid Patel and I'll be hosting the next episode of the edtech show on Monday, the 7th.
Speaker 7
Soon will be talking about the importance of social media and peer Len in the world of Ed Tech and education as a whole will be joined by 3. Amazing guests who have had some really great experience on this subject.
Speaker 7
We've got the host of the Maya Tech life podcast funds. Mendoza and also 2 of the 3 caffeinated coaches. We've got Shannon Moran Becky. Lim also joining us and we are really looking forward to having a break special.
Speaker 7
Speaker 7
Speaker 6
Speaker 7
We've also got more from Peter Horner in Horner's corner where he'll be talking about cyber security, which is really, really important in education at the moment.
Speaker 7
And then we'll have more of Daves terribly wonderful cryptic and Tech quiz. So really looking forward to it. It will be 7:00 PM. Bst.uk time on Monday, the 7th of June see your then.
Speaker 6
Dave
Terribly wonderful. I think you found that it's wonderfully terrible. Cryptic attack with quiz on it, so that's a bit who's coming up in a couple of weeks. Time to present the Edtech show, and if anybody who's listening wants to get involved in guesting or presenting the show, please please, please get in touch with us. We're at. We are joy FM. I believe ourjoyfm.co.uk we RJ FM is the something else I've just made up, but jfm.co.uk is the website.
Dave
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Speaker 6
Dave
Or go to the website joyfm.co.uk and you can also listen back to previous episodes of all three shelves via our website as well, so please give it a lesson cheque. Give it a listen cheque it out but we went Tonight Show with just a couple of things. My biggest question to you all which is another one I have not prepared. My guess with this at all.
Dave
So fat way to the more for being able to think on their feet and respond and apologies in some ways. But alright, that little bit of little bit of excitement in jeopardy in the in the hole appearing on the show kind of thing. So a question for each of you. In turn I'm going to start with Corey this time because I think it's only fair to mix it up abit is what's been the best headset product of 20 of lockdown. I was going to say 2021 but less stretching back to last year as well.
Speaker 6
Speaker 4
Oh gosh, you put me on.
Speaker 4
The spot being cursed.
Dave
But you gotta pick up the field the entire field, so I'm going to talk and give you 33 seconds to think every single product that could have been used. What's been the one that's made the most difference for you and your learners?
Speaker 6
Also, without you.
Dave0
It offends.
Speaker 4
Where with our school on the way it set up, I would say just gonna keep it simple. I would say Google meet.
Speaker 4
The ability to continuously connect with my students and make that face to face communication with them. We switch to we switch to using Google Meat rather than in Google Chat rather than Skype.
Speaker 4
A couple of years ago and since then it's just been amazing, so again, keeping it keeping in medicine simple where I think that this is building the Connexions that I have with not just fellow staff, but with the students as well, and that helps them.
Speaker 4
Bring brings all of us closer. Even though we're all around the world and in very different situations.
Speaker 6
Dave
Absolutely, and I think I've probably spent more time on Google meets then I have talking to my wife over the last year.
Dave
Unfortunately or fortunately for her to be fair, but but yeah, I think I don't know what we would have done without that and there there equivalents in the Microsoft world as well. Actually, what about you? What's your number? One ad tech product for the last 18 months?
Speaker 3
Oh, it's really hard.
Speaker 3
Are you still going to meet up I like?
Speaker 3
How do I really like what?
Speaker 3
Lynn was probably one of my favourite discoveries. I mean it. I didn't. I knew it.
Speaker 3
I knew about it, but I discovered the that you could get the educator account and when I started using it when I started using it, it was so helpful for me to send to, you know, teachers when they needed to help with tech, you know and I realised it started building. You know, really nice walkthrough with that knows it much easy.
Speaker 6
Excuse me there is a message for you.
Speaker 3
Away to create recycled messages, which sort of kind of reduced a lot of the constant back and forth communication that was needed.
Speaker 6
Excuse me there is a message for you.
Speaker 3
Whereas I could just share recordings of things so it was really helpful. I think I really appreciate using that tool.
Dave
Absolutely looms. Being at the centre of our offering of our training offerings and of a lot of our video resources that we've created for learners to.
Dave
Put back on. It's certainly been a very popular tool in our world. Mr Kingsley. What about yourself? Another big question for you to finish up here.
Speaker 2
Yeah, well, obviously as you know, Dave officially the biggest impact products have all been ones that we've developed but I can't really get share, though, so I'll go down the level from them.
Speaker 6
New York.
Speaker 2
I would have said something like teams, but we also covers it with me the same kind of concept. I say one just curriculum can swing on to one of the answers at everyone that's ever impact for us in our secondary phase across ask.
Speaker 2
Has been century century right now in terms of looking at resource is that can support personalised learning and those kind of pathways.
Speaker 2
And I think technologies like that has certainly had an impact. I think there are so many from comes to that collaboration to the physical content that sits on top. It's really hard to pick ones that stand out from the crowd.
Speaker 6
You like
Dave
Yeah, I think central Summers made the point in the messages that centre was great in FE2 and were using it in primary schools in our trust as well as secondary. So I think there's a lot of love for for Century tech at the moment from from all over the place. So we've only just started using it. So I'm really looking forward to to testing it out more. But what I would say is that the support that we've had in using Century tech has been absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 8
Okay.
Dave
Guys we are getting towards the very end of the episodes so it just remains for me to to thank the three of you food for joining me tonight for filling another hour of time that I had a massive void in beforehand.
Dave
I will say to our guest checkout all of the products and the ventures that you guys are involved in.
Dave
Obviously, Ed isn't it who said, Ohh, I've just reading entertainment screen all he's no cold Edin moment isn't allowed to promote the fact well he is really. I don't think there's a.
Dave
Proper mission.
Dave
This telling everybody that he is the group and Ethernet support. So checkout his products, checkout the cheque it out, show on YouTube the one that he holds alongside Mark Anderson as we said and also get onto the I've just completely lost the name of your product guides.
Dave
I stayed probably helped me out. Ed Edd Niftily, thank you owe. You know when your mind goes blank because you're looking at the clock and thinking you've not got very much time left. Ed Nificent edtech.
Speaker 8
I've never seen that technician thank you.
Dave
Everybody is listing. Please get on YouTube and follow that and follow the cheque it out. Show that I was involved in.
Dave
Thank you so much. If you fancy coming back and hosting it honestly, it's much easier than I make it look.
Dave
I actually carry out, you know, would be welcome to come and hold an episode of this. We are Joy FM and we are for everyone in education. So please please please if you're interested.
Dave
Get involved, listen to us sharers, and feel free to just join in and be part of the Edtech show or any of the Joy FM.
Speaker 6
Off.
Dave
Family's, I've been Dave Leonard. I've been joined by some amazing people. Thank you all and good night.
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This is the attack show I'm Dave Leonard.
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Dave0
Well, we'll see.
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Speaker 7
Speaking to some of the biggest names in the attack set so.
Dave
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