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Ever.
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Everyone in education.
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Sammy
Hello Dan,
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Then we can hear you.
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So I'm really sorry if you listen. You can hear me at my name is Sammy. I'm one of the Co hosts on Joy FM.
Sammy
And we're meant to be hearing from Dan Manly at the moment but we can't.
Sammy
So we'll just.
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Hold on and see if he can get his mic working and we can hear from him.
Sammy
It's got a great show planned this evening. I do believe he's got Mister Light bulb himself Mister Andy Caffrey, coming on.
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Sammy
And I think as well, he might be talking about a very exciting announcement that was made just before at 6:00 PM. This evening by our friends at the edge of futurists.
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Dan can you hear me now?
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More features as well. Darren I I must have missed this in the mellow of hugging that I've been doing today? I've missed these more new features you'll have to tell us all about it.
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David his usual advice turn it off and on again that is the usual isn't it. I think it's probably going to be easier than if you call in on your own firm and bring yourself in as a as a speaker rather than ending the broadcasters the host sticky. Mertz that just Darren know that doesn't sound right Devon.
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Trust you to go there, though, Yeah.
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So I'm well.
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Waiting for Dan I I don't know much about what's going on in the show tonight, but I do know the edgy futures had a big announcement.
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They've got some. Dude, coming to talk to them on July the second and exit they seemed quite pleased.
Dan
Hello.
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That.
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No.
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Can you now?
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I can hear you but I will hang up.
Dan
This is going well trust the right people to not be able to do anything.
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Crap.
Sammy
Have a great showdown.
Dan
No worries now going to do this partly for my phone partly from the Mac will blame Apple product? Why did I move away from my current book?
Dan
I do not know any where did everybody hear that jingles that begin in don't need to start everything again doing it.
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Yes, good good right. Let's get going, then soul. We are Joy FM. This is the Ed Tech show.
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And and I'm only as you heard from the little Jingle. Beginning then you didn't hear anything from me, so of course, this is going brilliantly.
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But let's just crack on sound on Monday. I am the idea. San Google lead from the Academy car trimmers where I work now.
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This is completely thrown me in the North West of England. Thank you so much for jumping in, and saving the day.
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But in there.
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And what have we got coming up tonight. Well, we've got Horner's Corner, the beautiful.
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An entry that we had last week. We've got another one coming this week as well. We've got the return of the edtech cryptic quiz.
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Which I believe went swimming last week as well if tonight's doesn't go as well then we'll just blame Dave Leonard because it was his idea at the end of the day anyway.
Dan
If you want to get in touch. Obviously, you can drop in the messages of the pub in app if you're listening.
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As a podcast rather than live make sure you get in touch on Twitter. We are Joy FM.
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So what's happening this week well without lockdown restrictions lifted you can hug. You non now or you are T Department will need a hug.
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The Bitcoin has plummeted as well, I managed to Wangle, a vaccine this week, which is all Jolly good.
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And also that means about a free upgrade to 5 G. And if Mister Bill Gates. If you're listening. Make sure you turn my microchip down cause this conversation might get a little bit to Google this evening for you.
Dan
If you're a football fan.
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Leicester obviously won the FA Cup this weekend for the first time in their history. It was great to see that.
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Both club owner fans.
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Dan
Manager or getting on there, it was great to see and also apparently I didn't know this. But my technician told me today that we've now figured out.
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That we can read DNA of Neanderthals from the dirt on care floors how about that that sounds.
Dan
I can amazing addition to our world, so back on Twitter actually here for this is the end texture at the end of the day, but tonight will focusing on professional development.
Dan
We've got a guest this evening and also I believe someone mentioned it as I was trying to fast food devices. We have got Andrew Caffrey on.
Dan
Andrew Caffrey is the CEO at Canopy, a team of educational technologies to help schools to use digital technology to enhance teaching and learning.
Dan
He is the global programme lead for Google for Education certified Innovator Programme, a global community of over 2000 passionate teachers who used to order to solve big challenges and advocate for impactful use of technology in education.
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At the gate.
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He is a former secondary school assistant head teacher, geography teacher, Duke of Edinburgh lead and specialist Leader of Education.
Dan
And you received an inspirational Educator award from the worship full competitive educators in 2016 in 2020.
Dan
He was named in Reddit 50 as one of the key People Shaping Education technology in the UK.
Dan
In his spare time, he is the volunteer head of compliance at the Scout Association. Well, that bio makes my bio sound useless, so you also going to get far more out of this evening from my guess, then you want me.
Dan
No.
Dan
Which before we get the guest on just Please remember to get in touch with us if you want to ask and any questions if you want to ask me any questions. If you're listening alive, make sure you pop in the messages and I'll have a look.
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Well, just while I'm waiting for Sunday to arrive, I will play the social Jingle and you can get all the information in a nice, lovely, tuneful way.
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Dan
I really need to learn funny to stop that every time it plays.
Dan
I'm looking at the right side of the music guys and there is no one there.
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And if you can hear me.
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Then, because he's not in the things, it's just me and me.
Dan
Yeah, I'm checking all these places.
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Well.
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My Mac seem very different. I'll bring them back again. Can I see from.
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My phone is on, my phone is just.
Dan
Not on the laptop, right?
Dan
Well, I'll use my phone then from now on.
Dan
Andy.
Dan
Can I hear you? I can't hear you right now, are you speaking?
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Dan
Potentially not then.
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Can anyone still hear me?
Dan
That's really good.
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Dan
Night Sammy
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It's going well.
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Things are going well I've.
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Definitely Valdez car parking.
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My **** is.
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He's like the Magic place to broadcast from.
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Maybe you should.
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Just post it from there. We should set up a little.
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Remote location.
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I think I'm.
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Not there in this house.
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Next.
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State.
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So Andy if you wanna hang up ahead.
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Cancel.
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Sammy
We had this problem last week with Dave with his collar and.
Sammy
So if Andy could hang up and then call back in that would be great dance shall. We talk about the edgy futurist announcement.
Dan
We shall just while I'm just calling back in. We can talk about edgy futurist, so if you didn't see the OR hear the announcement earlier on at 6:00 o'clock, they have got a brilliant keynote speaker I believe.
Dan
It is Joshua darn Jude. I take it you know where he's from, Sammy, can you tell me a bit more about where Joshua Donny's from and what is about?
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It worked.
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Worked.
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I do believe he's in charge of Elon Musk's Tesla School.
Dan
How exciting, based out of SpaceX I believe.
Sammy
I would imagine so yes, all I got was lonely.
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Mickey Mouse hit me on the head, which was my.
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Son saying put Mickey Mouse back on.
Dan
See I'm at the good idea of.
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Making sure the kids are out this evening so I could, you know, have a free for all without the risk of having a screaming child wanting to use the laptop while I was.
Dan
Trying to speak to everybody cake now.
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Okay.
Andy
How is that working mother?
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How?
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I'll hang up again.
Sammy
And I might leave all day but.
Andy
Magelang sorry enjoy shopping.
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I'm afraid.
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I am
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Anyway.
Andy
Hi Dan how are you?
Dan
Good at this could have gone far more smoother I expect, but what is it without a little fun and games while we're trying to get useful?
Andy
No this is this is the technical show after all done so now people expect it to.
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Andy
Not always play perfectly.
Dan
Dan
Dan
That's that's the wrong way to look at. It should be working perfectly, but I like your ideas and it makes it not sound as bad.
Dan
So do you want to introduce yourself? I've given you a bit of a a bit of a biology not going to get more detail and let everyone know who you are. If they don't know who you are.
Andy
Yeah, you did promise me ****** is pretty good job of introducing me earlier, but how funny my name's Andy Caffrey and I'm the lead at canopy.
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Andy
I'm very good fashion development partner and we focus on training teachers to use technology.
Andy
In the classroom.
Andy
And as you said earlier. I'm a former geography teacher and there was headed Department and assistant head teacher. So I spent around 15 years in the classroom and I stopped teaching around 34 years ago, now to start to really focus on how do we train teachers to use technology in better ways.
Andy
And so that's my backgrounds how got into that.
Andy
Role and probably most well known for being on.
Andy
The part of the huge team helps deliver the Google search for innovator academies.
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You got to start.
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Well.
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Dan
Well, that's all.
Dan
Well.
Dan
It all sounds very everything what you get on with and I don't know how you have enough time in a day.
Dan
Even just a short space of time, I've known you, you do so much. It's like when we first met nearly two years ago.
Dan
Now at the Level 2 Boot camp, you are literally flying straight from that to Brazil.
Dan
To do yet?
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Do you
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You.
Andy
Back in the day when we used to do face to face training events. I was very Manchester. Gonna Google Certified Educator Level 2 boot camp.
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Andy
Ignore the last level 2 bit comes I've done face to face back in December 2019, must be now.
Dan
Yes, it just just a few months after I started at Witton. And I'll say things that come along way since then fit for all those really, um.
Dan
Also, you work, can you be back then now kind of trees in full swing and it's going well so you've had your recent announcement of the specialised partner. I've got that correct?
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Yep.
Dan
Else works best. Schools has been phenomenal. We also we've got that wit and an awful lot of people are listening tonight. Have used it in some way, shape or form. That's been a brilliant.
Dan
Method of delivering personal development.
Dan
Through an effort at field.
Andy
Yeah, just it just came from that every originally we were very focused on teachers and teacher professional development and we thought that was that is important. But we are also really conscious that underneath all of that was student.
Andy
And there was always this assumption that students will be fine. But that's you know, people with their terms, like their digital natives and now we're dealing with technology.
Andy
Well, if you've ever worked in a school you probably know that that students are fine. And if you've ever had to deliver I don't know lessons for Google Classroom.
Andy
You never get like a full set of students who know that they can handle multiple.
Andy
Files or get.
Andy
Their working correctly and some of that comes down to the knowledge of knowing how best to use platform so.
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Andy
We always felt students were the missing link in all of this and that's why we decided to really have a focus on that.
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We.
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Dan
But we also knew that we couldn't.
Andy
Scale student training in the same way we did stuff training.
Andy
We couldn't you know.
Andy
Have what?
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Andy
What?
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Teaching us to different station that's what we expect it to way of you know train. Lots people as you know train. Lots of people to use Google Workspace, but but in a more efficient way using the interactive tutorials.
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Feel.
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Dan
I as soon as I put it in I got very addicted to getting the Badgers. He's very good trick.
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Just.
Dan
Because it's not just good for students. I think everyone who has any sort of.
Dan
Job relates to the Ed Tech World loves getting those badges Ann and I'll get the rest of my Google ones.
Dan
Eventually I might end up with an innovator Academy with yourself. Obviously I'm doing the court at the minute, which is another thing which cannot be doing at the moment, which I know is going down really well. I think the person I'm entering is in.
Dan
The ball is in the air show in the messages tonight, so thank you for going. That's really good to see here.
Dan
Expanding PLM like this profile.
Dan
Yeah.
Dan
Andy
The coaching fits really well for us because he hit it aligns really nicely. What we try and do a canopy where we really try and have our focus on education and not necessarily on the technology.
Andy
We often say we focus on the drive and the tech part of that word, and that is ultimately what we want to do is focus on helping teachers to improve.
Andy
Practise in the classroom.
Andy
And the coaching programme doesn't even really nice weights. It's presented around that.
Dan
Definitely so if we catch them well, catch your mind back. Not my mind back, but cash online back to when you were a teacher.
Dan
Whichever feels for you. Quite a while ago now, given everything that's going on since you left being a teacher.
Dan
And if you remember.
Dan
How you received professional development has.
Dan
The way that you.
Dan
Were involved with. It impacted how you now deliver it, if that makes sense.
Andy
I think any teacher has both looking bad experiences and professional development, just like probably students have good and bad experiences of teachers and in both of those shape your the way in which you deliver deliver training.
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Is?
Andy
Certainly, you know we've all experienced that insect based approach in schools where everyone goes in the hall and does exactly the same training session and sometimes.
Andy
It's the same training session every year.
Andy
I mean you the the robots better way to do that, but also through my time working in school we also really realised that when we introduced technology training needs to be really logical.
Andy
Part of that?
Andy
And the school I worked in a.
Andy
Gun gone to one.
Andy
And was really focused on on on. You know using using Chromebooks, but the focus needed to be around improving staff skills.
Andy
So we put a lot of time into making sure that staff training is important to that point and then making sure that it was also differentiated.
Andy
Much.
Andy
Andy
That staff were going to go through different staff at different levels were going to be there. Their training differentiated in different ways, much like we were telling our staff to do with students in the classroom.
Andy
With Stew.
Andy
Andy
So it really is about that sort of same sort practise we expect about teachers and doing the same thing. So it came from that really, given that background of recognising the importance of staff PD.
Dan
Fair enough so.
Dan
If.
Dan
Well sorry, let me start again. So professional, developed with.
Dan
It meant that you experience in school. Now I've seen this from my point of view of seeing our staff take part in professional help, which seems a bit of a cop out maybe, and is one way it needs to be engaged.
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You.
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Dan
From what I've seen, which I would say for people who don't know, I've only been in education not even two years yet, so I'm quite fresh faced in terms of the world of education and.
Dan
The ones that simply are not engaging just don't get a good response, and I think that's with the teaching with teaching as well.
Dan
If teacher is not engaging with the person who's delivering professional developments, not engaging, and I suppose the face to face kind of helps that cause you sat in front.
Dan
Of them you.
Dan
Obviously you can see how they're reacting to what you're saying. I remember I was like I say that we.
Dan
First met at the Level 2 broken that you put on in Manchester. Now I personally I got more out of that with it being face to face then I might have done if it was wrongly cause then you delivered the Chrome OS administrating remotely and now it was still great.
Dan
But I definitely think I would have got more of it from face to fit. So with that change, with it being since the pandemic hit.
Dan
We park office to face how is canopy and yourself adapted to how you come out stronger. Maybe from the fact that you can't deliver face to face at the moment.
Andy
I made it is a different method of delivery, but he said get the same as our as every teacher in the UK has experienced she's that's overnight shift and easy to deliver online, but underneath all that comes down to the same the same pieces.
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You.
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Andy
Casa
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Andy
Which is you know, how interactive are your sessions? What are we asking people to do? How do we know what's going on when people are completing work?
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Then.
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Andy
Are we checking understanding as we go? There's a lot of similarities between between delivering training session and delivering a lesson.
Andy
So I think a lot about practise shares between 2:00.
Andy
But you want it is different. It's a different experience and sometimes you have to think carefully about you know about how you're going to your elicit more responses out of an audience.
Andy
You haven't got that.
Andy
Ability to walk around the room or talk.
Andy
To people or look.
Andy
At what they've gotten their screen and see what they're doing.
Andy
So it is a bit different in that respect, but I think overtime you know we're learning that. Still a really useful way of delivering professional development.
Andy
I think moving forward, if I predict the future will be like I think we'll.
Speaker 3
Andy
Be, we'll see return of face to face.
Andy
It will also say really good reasons.
Andy
Online training is one thing you can really do online, which is really nice. He's bringing a range of people around your trainers just after one person.
Andy
It can be two people, three people.
Andy
Became a specialist who specialise in one.
Andy
Area and then.
Andy
Another, so we can really start to focus on that.
Andy
And spread that was previously known. Try it's cool. Gently bring one person in to train for a day.
Andy
So.
Andy
It is it is it is different and I say some people from from the I-20 in the chat today, which was an innovator Academy from last year. And that was our first experience of taking Google's ice level programme, which is to say, if I invite Academy 2.
Andy
To an online format. So the 8:20.
Dan
No, I'm just going to say I'm sleepy to drop to the message there ANO obviously down here as well. Who else is from VA in this thing?
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A.
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Awesome, Sammy.
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Dan
Yes, got here and.
Andy
I'm really trying to focus on how do we bring the experience of face to face events to that VR.
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Andy
20 Steps also thinking about social sessions, thinking about how we are have a full range of experience. So whether it's just having a live DJ down there, the closing party, or whether it says creating that space will talk. Those are equally as important as the delivered sessions were doing online.
Speaker 3
Didn't know.
Dan
I've noticed that.
Dan
Jess is as potentially.
Dan
Ruined one of your announcement for later on.
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Andy
Yeah good, just got Jess is not great for keeping the secret issue.
Andy
So we aren't.
Andy
We are surely.
Andy
Back to announce that we have our returns to face to face events which is in.
Andy
Coming up in.
Andy
October of this sort of Andover, the 15th. When we bring in our first face to face event back, which is kind of weird.
Andy
Live in Birmingham and that really is just at the we see. We started to say it's something cheesy, Azam from some teachers.
Andy
Abbott from the tech world as well to meet up face to face. So we thought we'd do a mixture and we've seen it, so we're going to try a face to face event coming up in October. All covered being well of course.
Dan
Of course, definitely. I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully I'll be there and shouting about all things checking wires normally or anything you want me to do? Understand that I'll be there. So if you are interested you can cheque it out where end it.
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Black.
Andy
I think it's my lips. I have to look.
Andy
At dresses I'm talking now.
Andy
But I'm pretty certain coz we didn't its canopy to education forward.
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Andy
Slash wants enforced.
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Lie but just testing this right now to see if that works.
Andy
No, it's not all OK and tell you in a.
Andy
Minute, it's really.
Andy
Really great that I've got the link to this man.
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Or.
Andy
And it's gonna be education forward slash canopy hyphen live.
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What?
Andy
You see what we?
Andy
Did there mate nice and short?
Dan
Yeah, so if you want to cheque that out, by all means go to that site and have a look. I believe there are.
Andy
I like Jess Glynne properly in the chat. She said crushed.
Speaker 3
Yes.
Dan
Exactly ruins the surprise, and then at least it follows it up by being professional.
Speaker 3
Andy
Yup.
Dan
I believe you.
Dan
Are early Bird tickets available at the moment is the.
Andy
Not yet there on the website.
Dan
Oil means, if you're interested, let it out. It'll be a full day of brilliant PD provided by canopy and.
Dan
Questions I'm sure Andy will answer them on Twitter.
Dan
Or wherever you want to get to him. I'm sure you'll answer if you want more information on that.
Dan
Now that kind of schools off the running order a little bit, doesn't it? So I will chop and change. I tell you what we'll do. We will have an early.
Dan
Interest of Horner's corner.
Dan
Now I will actually play the Copa Jingle this time and not let it run into something else. Here we go. This is the first time I actually do this properly.
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Speaker 7
Horner's corner.
Dan
Never got it worked and I stopped it before it played a different Jingle. I'm getting the hang of this guys.
Dan
Now I'm supposed to play that right next, so we got it. This time it is screencastify so will be back in a bit.
Dan
About five minutes, and now you can listen to the lovely voice of Mr Peter Horner with Horner's Corner.
Speaker 4
Hi everyone, I'm Peter.
Speaker 4
Horner and welcome to my headset corner so it's Day. I'd like to talk about screen casting tools. There's plenty of screen casting apps out there from loom screencast O matic and was built in tools on iPads and Chromebooks recreating the screen recordings. But my favourite screen casting tool is screencastify. Screencastify is a screen casting tool. I've used for a long time. It's available in Chrome as a crane extension and racks on PC.
Speaker 4
These Apple Macs and cream books. Of course, screencastify and the other screen casting tools like it saw an explosion of use last year. So I just looked at some of our stats in in 2019. We as a college created just 600 screencasts. But in 2020. We created over 10,000 Screencasts and V Screencasts worth course used for online less.
Speaker 4
Means creating how to videos on how to use different edtech tools, providing feedback to students via video and also for students to create their own screencasts to submit his work for their teachers, so in March last year to prepare our teachers for online learning before we locked down. I trained 170 of our teachers in how to use screencastify and shared my top screencastify tips and Insta's edtech corner. I'd like to share some of those tips of you to help you create fantastic looking screencasts.
Speaker 4
So tip number one is to always have a plan or an outline before.
Speaker 4
Coding often on tempted to just wing it. But my screen casts always turnout better if I've got a plan and a road map of what I want to cover in that screen cast having a plan helps me stay on topic stops me from gambling or waffling and cuts out all the uns anais tip number 2 is to closeout. All other apps and tabs an block notifications so firstly closing other apps and tabs will free up processing power for the screen recording software.
Speaker 4
To work efficiently and run smoothly.
Speaker 4
And it also helps eliminate any distractions. It helps keep your viewer focused on what you're showing them and plus you don't want any personal information popping up during a screencast, which you have to try and cut out later.
Speaker 4
All re record tip number 3 is to become a master of the keyboard shortcuts. Most of the tools. I mentioned earlier have keyboard shortcuts available? Are you screencastify mostly and the keyboard shortcuts iPhone makes useful being amateur ****** and resume recording.
Speaker 4
This is really useful as it gives me a chance to collect my thoughts so I can.
Speaker 4
Any hits out shift P pause recording think about wanting to say next and then resume recording another shortcut. I is a lot is old F, which turns on the focus spotlight on the mouse and it's a good way of highlighting areas on the screen screen.
Speaker 4
Cast fire also includes a built in pencil so if you press alt and P. This continues on and off.
Speaker 4
Without having to go down to the annotation bar and select it on there and one last keyboard. Shortcut screen cast 5 just added is fireworks on mouse clicks. This is a nice tool to use if you're marking reckons can testify and want to celebrate student success tip number 4 is to only record what you need if you just need to record Google Slides just record that tab rather than the entire desktop this helps remove any unnecessary risk.
Speaker 4
The noise and focus your view on what you want to show it also helps reduce your videos file size tip number 5 is to keep it short. I try to keep all of my screen casts under 5 minutes. If I've got a larger topic. Then I chunk it up into smaller screen casts firstly. This caters for our short attention spans but also by breaking up a longer video into short focus segments. It can make it much more user friendly and easier to navigate tip number 6 is.
Speaker 4
Use a good microphone my best investment last year was getting a blue Yeti Microphone, but it doesn't have to be an expensive micro.
Speaker 4
Even your headphones with a built in mic is much, much better than simply using your computer's internal microphone tip.
Speaker 4
Number 7 is to zoom in keep in mind that viewers may be watching your video on their phones. So if I'm recording a webpage I might press control plus to make the text bigger on my screen or if I'm recording a Google slide. I'd also zoom out in to make it larger and easier to read.
Speaker 4
Number 8 is to cut out, the dead moments so this is moments in the video where you're waiting for a web page to load.
Speaker 4
Whenever programmes.
Speaker 4
Road and nothing much is happening. I'd like to take my screen casts into video editor so screencastify has a built in editor or you can use a web based one like re video and Justice quickly cut out those moments and it keeps your video nice and focused and makes it a little bit shorter to number 9 is to record using standard dimensions in most cases, you want to record with standard dimensions like 480 P or 720 P or 1080 P to make sure it displays correctly on video hosting sites like YouTube.
Speaker 4
And you don't end up with black bars around the edges of your video screen cast for it does allow you to automatically resize your browser tab to fit these dimensions or you can use a cream extension like window resize are and for my last tip tip number 10. I recommend exploring the annotation tools, so they've screencastify handling include annotation tools, so these let you draw on screen and it's nice way of directing viewers eyes to Ray want them to go well. I hope you found those tips useful.
Speaker 4
I'm praying to good use in making some new amazing screencasts. If you'd like to connect with me on Twitter my Twitter handle is at Peter.
Speaker 4
The owner and so much on youtubeyoutube.com slash Peter Horner Edtech.
Speaker 6
Thanks Darling, the show so far mate.
Dan
Dave, you jumped in a bit too soon there. I'm only joking. I pressed the wrong button, I'm just this is not going well tonight is it. Thank you Peter, for that that is great to hear. Those top 10 tips about screencastify.
Dan
Let me know in the messages which is your favourite screencasting tool.
Dan
I personally prefer loom simply because that the webcam is circular. I don't know why that is. The key factor for me, but that's why I like it. If anyone does have any other options, please drop it in the messages so we can see.
Andy
Shirley asked me screencastify down with all those times we Google Classroom bathing.
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Speaker 3
Dan
I I'm not the teacher though. Remember I if I was teaching in lesson, then yes, screencastify would be perfect, but I'm making mainly training videos which don't go into classroom.
Dan
Well, that's my preference. I understand why the people would prefer him testify though an but.
Dan
Yeah, I get.
Dan
That what shows I could take you screencastify since what you just said.
Andy
You wanted, he does vary between the two.
Speaker 6
Sometimes I'm alone, but for.
Andy
The overall experience probably screencast ivona course now. We've also got the screen recording coming natively.
Andy
Crime books, so you need to get off my screen. My keyboard shortcut is an interesting way of doing the chords.
Speaker 3
Junk.
Dan
Definitely. How much have you used that since it came out?
Andy
Yeah, going on there.
Speaker 3
Apartment.
Andy
Got my Chrome books out so it recording text rate to the straight to drive now, so that's better.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Dan
Perfect.
Dan
No, since we've now gone holders Corner which is.
Dan
Brilliant thank you again Peter.
Dan
We're going to go into the Edtech Cryptic Quiz or cryptic quiz if you were listening last week. The clue was a speck of dust now. And did you know what that would be if it was speck of dust?
Andy
Well, I did listen last week. I did give you answer right so that makes it easier.
Dan
Pretended I just got out. I know exactly what it is, but yes it is. It is mot for people who don't know that. And this weeks this week is where it gets interesting.
Dan
So I didn't want to say this right or else no one's going to get it. So Are you ready?
Dan
You ready for this graft?
Dan
In a vacuum murders the letter S.
Speaker 3
Dan
Yeah.
Andy
That's.
Dan
But no one gets it Dave. I know you rooting for someone to have done this and what she got instinct Dundee.
Andy
Well, let's hear it again then.
Dan
Graft in a vacuum murders the letter S.
Dan
I'm going to put it.
Dan
In messages codes, then people can see it gets along all.
Andy
Yeah, this one's not easy.
Andy
Graft in a vacuum murders the letter S.
Dan
Is as dense as it's particularly cryptic this week, so this is an Edtech tool.
Dan
Hope someone knows something you have access to the spreadsheet where these all are. You are cheating.
Dan
I'm not taking your answer.
Dan
Open Jason's putting Hoover. I'm not even gonna white. Joyce give me words Jason that I can't speak to her.
Dan
It's easy when you know it is a great alternative, but it's very true. I want to give you a bit of time to dwell on that and I'll come back to you on the bit late.
Dan
I don't see you ever. You can think of what it is and.
Dan
Will see whether our listeners can figure it out in that time.
Dan
Next, I want to speak to you about looking little better programme Monday so.
Dan
How did you first hear about it? How did you? How did you get into the world of Google and for a start right is your school.
Dan
Obviously, we spoke before that. We actually had quite similar school Sizings were both one to one, schools were both offering schools, that's correcting it. Your reference school.
Andy
Yeah, I mean we got into our Google actually really cause we're looking for a solution to deal with homework, so we used to have students and most people remember this.
Speaker 3
Back.
Andy
We have students go home, some of them would have Microsoft Word. Summer would have other programme, some didn't have access to tools. You ask him to do work on lie or you know a document or present.
Andy
Nation and the next day you just get this massive stuff back. Files you couldn't open files that you know different things and we just thought we needed.
Andy
A solution to that.
Andy
And said the solution was to use it was turned on Google Apps for education at the time.
Speaker 3
Andy
And it just grew from there.
Andy
Really, we realised the power of collaboration on docs and slides so that grew and then off the back of that we thought the use of computer games grew to the point that you couldn't book a computer room because people were staying up till midnight.
Andy
And the booking system used to takeover the next day, like booking rooms really fast and that was that was that.
Andy
Showed his popularity.
Andy
So after that.
Andy
We are beside the Chromebook roots and rolled up Chrome books and so their Chromebooks grow next. So that was the sort of next step in our evolution and so then I started thinking about.
Andy
We'll get myself certified and I'd heard about the.
Andy
Event private, I'm not heard it was quite good in and like a lot of people I wasn't successful at the first two times, so I applied. It was a longshot, but I applied to Sydney and you can get in there. And then I applied to London and got rejected for London and after those two I then applied to Mountain View in 2016. Die accepted on that one. So all these things often fate isn't it. But obviously I've got to go going to California.
Andy
Go to the headquarters of Google and my individual Academy at the Googleplex in Mountain View.
Andy
And so that was my experience of that, and it was a totally different. So precious about meant nothing like I'd experienced before.
Andy
I think the big thing for me was like a lot of people. It was about meeting other people.
Andy
And, and the Connexions that I made to that process. And then obviously overtime as a lot of people. Now I then started, do I do now?
Andy
Ann actually started looking after work working on the programme and more recently looking at the problems moved online. So he has been.
Andy
He has been transformational programme for me. It's you know, one of the reasons why I changed my job role from being a teacher. So it really opened things out.
Andy
But I've seen about I've got some questions in now somebody asked me in the chat.
Andy
What did I did?
Andy
Did I use for booking rooms and the fancy not laughed off my head now where computer room booking system, but I think there's possibly cool computer in booking system, so I think that might be what we use in.
Andy
We didn't use Google forms at the time for that I'm 20. Wells someone's asked me who is my Ed tech hero.
Speaker 3
Andy
It's a difficult one, really. I mean, I want to certainly thank my former head teacher, but Downing St Lake as he was when he came as the new head teacher he was once certainly opened up the school to the possibility of using technology. I don't think he'd have come in and been as open to technology as overheads are or aren't.
Andy
I would be sitting here. I've missed call you right now, so perhaps him I don't know and the range of people I've met through the individual academies who really did push you know this from the innovative projects that really do make a big impact. So I think that the collective group of innovators as well. I would have to add in there.
Speaker 3
Speaker 3
Andy
What?
Andy
Andy
Says its impressions.
Andy
As well done so jumped into those.
Speaker 3
Yep.
Dan
That's fine, I.
Speaker 3
It's.
Dan
Thought you in your element. I like you too.
Dan
It was, it was great. Sit back. Looks like you talk for a bit. You can do my job for me it's fine.
Dan
No, I know a lot of these people, especially two individuals in this in the chat here, will be adamant and will definitely want to know which is your favourite Academy.
Andy
Well, everyone always think there five academies around 1:00, so I would have to say Matthew 16 Academy I went through is my favourite.
Andy
But then after.
Andy
That every Academy is different in every country really has its highlights unless it is.
Andy
It's bit like where you as a.
Andy
Teacher, do you have a favourite class? I think every class is different.
Speaker 4
Um.
Andy
So I'm going to I'm going to. I'm going to duck out of this answer and say I only for different reasons. I love all of the academies that I've worked on.
Speaker 3
Dan
Brilliantly on the fence, why not?
Andy
Yeah, I don't upset and we chat.
Speaker 3
At.
Dan
I am sure it will be people shouted at London 19. I'm sure I'm surrounded by London 19 people. Wherever I look at the moment and I streamed into that that that is the best one.
Dan
So I think.
Speaker 3
Andy
London 19 celebrating its.
Andy
Two, I think Mum is 2 year anniversary right now coming through, so that's that's the special moment for Academy.
Speaker 3
Excellent.
Dan
Except it was. It was run at the same time that the 1st.
Andy
I still I apparently average project.
Speaker 3
Dan
Close enough, I bet it's close enough. It comes to the edge of interest. Awards is coming up. Dave want it.
Dan
The first time I've been late last year, fingers crossed I can bring it up this year, but I'm sure I'll have tough competition this year even if I'm not listen, not even Olivia not cousin. OK Holder should be up there if he's not this time I'll be there. Will be riots in the edge of futurists, online social media spaces.
Speaker 3
Dan
Did you have you nominated under?
Andy
You know anyone none for some of the words, I put some nominations in by will keep my nomination secret from home.
Dan
I wasn't asking you to tell, I'm just making sure you have because people need to.
Andy
Oh yeah, I got in I've got.
Andy
Everything deadline on Sunday.
Andy
And I'm looking forward to World in July.
Dan
Yes, it should be another good one. I'm looking forward to having that back because the first one was before I started in education, so I missed there.
Dan
Yes it should.
Dan
Dan
The in person.
Dan
Event.
Dan
Black face to face. Keep missing them, but no, it was great to see that it was getting involved in the college as well but in.
Dan
College is obviously my local college and I.
Dan
Will bring the lad very close to.
Dan
Bye bye close Ben. And for those of you who are asking me about the weird in York last week when Ben was on when I said then come give me give the stickers to my mum.
Dan
That's not because because he works with my mum, not any other reason. He literally worked at the same college someone does.
Dan
That was the only reason I said to him that he could give the future stickers to my mum.
Dan
Anyway, enough of that, let's move on.
Dan
So coming up, let's in fact under you had enough time now to think about this.
Dan
Two, in order to Jeff.
Andy
I still have no clue other than sort of, you know, some sort of Dyson Hoover vacuum cleaner. What this tool is?
Dan
Gone as anyone in the messages.
Dan
Figured it out yet.
Andy
No one in the charts put in, at least.
Dan
Last chance before you got 2 minutes.
Dan
Before I announced.
Dan
And why are you doing that? Just a reminder, if you want to get in touch, please go on Twitter and contact us at. We are dry FM the website isjoefm.co.uk.
Dan
And let's play the lovely social Jingle again. Just while I wait for people to try and get their guesses in.
Speaker 8
Viaje a again keep the conversation going china'slifebythecofinawhereveryougetyourpodcastsaftertheshow@joyfm.co.uk and on Twitter. We are Joy FM everyone in education.
Speaker 3
Speaker 3
Speaker 3
Dan
Write some people been trying to help you Monday. Have you figured out? Yeah.
Andy
I mean, I'm going to guess that these summits either Google Workspace or Workspace given the cleaners in the chat, but.
Andy
I still don't know why it's that.
Andy
So.
Dan
Answer is very close to home because it is workspace skills.
Speaker 8
Oh, even closer to home.
Speaker 3
Both.
Dan
Home yeah, now for people who do not get that reference, I'm going to break this down and explain it. Unless Dave you want to call in and you can explain it by all means I'll happily.
Dan
View baby is.
Andy
So So what?
Speaker 3
Facebook Messenger.
Andy
You said telling me here is I couldn't name the name of my own product, great.
Dan
I wonder if taken away.
Speaker 9
Good afternoon big, yeah, sorry that's missed my strange brain.
Speaker 9
Breaking me the product downfall graft is work, so graft in a vacuum is work in space.
Speaker 3
Speaker 9
And then murders less less skill with an extra letter estimate.
Speaker 9
So workspace skills.
Speaker 6
Secret agent.
Andy
Sounds so easy that you don't.
Andy
Know you take it through it, Dave.
Speaker 7
Most people don't understand the first time around.
Andy
Well, that was that was especially challenging crypticclue.
Speaker 3
Dan
Just wait to some of the others we've got coming.
Dan
Getting big, I think that might be the hardest. Potentially we have got some very interesting ones. We've even got more for the flight the next season. The next year we've, we've gone overboard with their. How many cryptic antiquities we've got well?
Dan
Jason says that was worse than during the escape. Rooms are remember one of the first escape rooms you did.
Dan
Darren, me and Jason Dr. Far too long to get doing and we did not work for at least two days and there was loads of people getting it and we were so confused what to do so.
Dan
Yes, I understand Jason frustrations that it made my team do not work for at least a couple days. We got there in the end. So how would you feel about that? Andy, did you get it now?
Speaker 3
Book.
Speaker 3
Andy
Yeah, it's not nowadays explained it I fully get how it works.
Dan
It's a bit, you know, tenuous, but we're radio show. We've got to have a tenuous quiz in the middle of it up, but.
Dan
It's part of being.
Dan
A radio show, but we've got to match our competitors and everything like we've got to be on the same level.
Dan
So did not actually get. I mean if you think people got it, but I think a few people.
Dan
I've accessed the spreadsheet so they were kind of cheating.
Dan
But it was close enough, you got there, you got half of it with Workspace.
Andy
Yeah, those were the renaming place so that maybe not everything workspace for definite.
Speaker 3
Dan
Whilst we had Dave on I will.
Dan
Kind of bringing back in, but not live, and he is the host next week and I will let him explain what is coming up when I find it to it.
Speaker 6
Thanks darling. The show so far mate. And yeah, next week I am going to be joined by none other than our Kingsley now in trouble with best known to our listeners as the MD of net support. But he where many of the hats as well he's got.
Speaker 3
Speaker 3
Speaker 6
Addressing governance in N tagging all kinds of things and as part of an interesting entech he presents and YouTube channel alongside Mark Anderson.
Speaker 6
So it's going to come talk to us about that and all the great things that he's found over the last few months ago and will also be joined by Korean stand.
Speaker 6
Ashley Fox, who are starting their own edtech channel on YouTube, so it was really interesting to singing while all those guys bring to the show.
Speaker 6
So enjoy me same time next week about 7:00 PM on Monday, UK time. For those international listeners off again.
Speaker 6
I will look forward to speaking to you over. Enjoy those to be showing.
Dan
Thank you Dave for those words about what's happening next week. Thank you for calling and however abbed yes, you are hosted in two weeks. You best get prepared.
Dan
I'm sure you will you become more some exciting things I want. I want shout who's coming up soon but it looks like it's going to be another good episode.
Dan
Last week, bringing it will not gonna wait. That's what we're doing IT everything have managed to get 48 minutes into this one with all the issues should you have got on it when you tell you when it is? Isn't that Daves podcast motto loading boxes? We need to win it? Isn't it something like that?
Dan
Talk about podcasts. Also, we spoke about Edge. Futurist briefly spoke about loaned us their remember that after this show is done live, the episode will be uploaded to the podcast section and you can catch a on demand after as well as all the previous episodes and all forthcoming episodes.
Speaker 3
Dan
That was a little nice segue. In my mind, it might not work as well as I hoped, But anyway, it worked.
Dan
It transfers into many podcast Sunday.
Andy
Yeah, I think so. Great why after when I'm driving I I kill preview podcasts?
Andy
Isn't on my travels.
Andy
And see it's a great way of learning from other people and not just from the UK ones. By like listening to the.
Andy
US podcast as well.
Andy
To share good practise it was going in different schools and lots of people are now dropping their podcasts in which I say Darren's might take buddies is a great one. Obviously features mentioned earlier.
Andy
This is such a choice now which is.
Andy
Great to see.
Dan
Yeah, definitely I. I literally never once listen to a podcast until I started working at win and I think one of the first things is 18.
Dan
Or see you most people in this chat will know centre it was wishing to read your future. If that was like my homework she sent me, she's always in teacher mode so I've got homework to listen to you futurist and it wasn't so long after that that are good friends. David Abbott had the best episode like will keep telling everyone that the best edge features episode.
Dan
And since then, I've been hooked. I'll say what you say. Learning dust is great. I've been on learning dust.
Dan
And.
Dan
Dan
My body is great. I've been on ** **** There is obviously that's the reason why the great an only joking. I'm one of many.
Dan
Brilliant people and I'm not the brilliant one I understand to make up numbers, especially with the rate I'm doing tonight is going swimmingly.
Dan
I promise guys I will do better whenever my next show is. I should probably look at that. I'll be more prepared. I thought I was prepared. I thought I had a full everything get going and yeah, it's going.
Dan
Unfortunately, a bit lumpy, bit bumpy, but we're getting there. We're at the end now. When I got 10 minutes left, so I'm going to ask you one final question and it and we'll take it from there and see where the conversation goes. What do you think the future of Ed Tech will be?
Dan
Dave ask this question to Ben last week and I think we're going to maybe stop asking this to all of our guests and see how they all.
Dan
Relate up and see what.
Dan
Things you have in common with your answers.
Dan
Away you go.
Andy
Yeah, I mean I'm not.
Andy
All I'll say what?
Andy
Is that then I'll explain it in a bit more detail. I would say the future Edtech probably is that there wouldn't be ad tech, and that might sound a weird thing to say from someone who works closely to technology in schools.
Andy
I think what really I would like to see his point where we don't really think of it as adtech and one of the things I used to often talk about when I used to present about about the journey that my school went on was that, you know we are used to often says people that we are one to one pence cool that you would come into our school and all the students are carrying a pen and they're using the pen everyday in the lessons and the using the pen in lots of different ways and that that isn't a particularly if is it because the pen is just the thing to the thing that students carry around with them.
Andy
I'm not, I really want to say is reaching the point.
Andy
Where technology is just that thing, it's just another tool that teachers can use in the classroom to make the best learning experiences for students.
Andy
And so one.
Andy
Of the things I think is what we should be doing is detaching it, making its own thing.
Andy
It's right, you know it's it's over there. I think it's very easy for some to schools to do that, but she's just say I'd text this other thing as a person in charge about tank. Well, actually.
Andy
It's just down to teaching and learning. It's just down to being able to deliver really good lessons, and technology is part of that, so it might sound unusual.
Andy
Request my my my wish for the future is that there was nothing could then take. It was just good teaching and that good teaching.
Speaker 3
Andy
Just use technology in that way and that's why I would like to see you know, come out of this.
Andy
And so that's my hope for what the future would.
Andy
Look like in terms of what tools it is. I have no idea. I'm continually surprised.
Andy
By all of this, is the range of things. I'm also surprised by what really takes off in schools sometimes, as we've seen just the simplicity of an idea that can just get now traction globally through the way that teachers are connected on platforms like Twitter and the way that we all listen to each other and share ideas.
Speaker 3
Coffee.
Andy
And so the way in which are really good idea can just resonate around the world so quickly. I think it is really powerful and really has a big dip me impact onto the global education.
Andy
So that that is really exciting. But then.
Andy
Yeah, I did love it when.
Andy
Those little small apps come along. I really extension comes along. It just sold such a logical prob.
Andy
That means you can just, you can just pick up that good practise. So I think those are some key things for me.
Andy
As for the future with its flying cars or shoes that do themselves up with shoe laces, I'm not understand what that is, but.
Andy
I'm so excited to be part of what the future is.
Dan
Going back to what you just said about that, you kind of wish attacks nothing an I believe this is a.
Dan
A full list on what you mean by really coz I think by brandishing it as an edtech and giving it that name, especially for.
Dan
Teachers or anyone really works education who is unsure of what attack is? It kind of puts a scary mark on it because it's different exchange.
Dan
If it was branded as it's just teaching and learning with technology included, obviously it takes. It will take work to get everybody to that.
Dan
Point like like with.
Dan
Really professional development, maybe from canopy. There you go and look for it.
Dan
No, I know what you mean, but like I do think it can sometimes be.
Dan
An unhelpful thing to give it the name of Ed Tech when really all we're trying to strive for everyone who works in the Ed Tech World is that our teachers used to allergy in a proactive and good.
Dan
Way which enhances their teaching and learning. It's not about just using technology for the sake of using technology.
Speaker 4
There's gotta be a reason to use it.
Dan
Yeah, I think I. I hope that as well that sounds like it should be a good thing that everybody should want and more people.
Dan
David.
Dan
Dan
Dave wants a one to one Hover budget school.
Andy
Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 3
Laugh.
Andy
Think every now are selfless you choose motherboards.
Andy
From back to the future.
Dan
Budget budget of the messages is descended into chaos. Trust the budget to bring up matches again.
Dan
How would you want to one school use other badges, Dave? Go on until that on.
Dan
The pets for every student they do the work for them. Do they have a computable in? Who knows?
Dan
Pictures of finding schools on the right sets, but this is just getting out.
Dan
Look what we started.
Dan
Have you got anything you would like to add on way before we start to wrap this thing up? If you got anything that you would like to to say, obviously we have announced Caterpillar, which would almost be exciting.
Speaker 3
Yep.
Andy
For now we meant **** We mentioned last thing.
Speaker 3
Andy
Coming up, so it's been nice to nice to connect with everyone, but also chat about what that might be like.
Andy
And even though I couldn't solve tonight's cryptic puzzle from Dave, I only picked up for advice from Peter tonight, so that's been great to hear. But thanks for having me on done an invite me along to the.
Andy
Show
Dan
No problem, hopefully I'll try and have you on again at some point maybe.
Dan
In awhile, by the time I've got used to using podbean and things will go far smoother than it did tonight, so apologies to everyone for the issues with the beginning.
Dan
Trust their T shirt to be the one with technical problems, but what can you do? At least you all stayed around and didn't runaway at the fact that you couldn't hear me. Then you want to runaway when you could hear me. But thank you very much for coming on.
Dan
If there is anyone got any last minute questions for Andy before we let him go to his busy life?
Speaker 3
Dan
Nope, don't just.
Dan
Trying to get more people to listen to him tomorrow cause he is.
Dan
No no one.
Dan
Not well.
Dan
There you go, Andy. We will let you go. Thank you for having me.
Andy
Members, thank you mate. See you soon everybody.
Dan
Say that soon and thank you to everyone.
Dan
All right?
Dan
Dan
Thank you to everyone for coming tonight and make sure you cheating tomorrow to Darren Show and Sammy on Wednesday and come back again the same time next week. For Dave short with Al Kingsley and.
Dan
And.
Dan
Ashley Fox and Corey Hurst. Thank you again, this has been done mainly from the Joy FM Edtech show.
Dan
And it's everyone in education. Thank you for listening.