I am an instructor and I have used Canvas quizzes in the past to build question groups so I can randomize questions individual students receive, and so if students use more attempts they get a slightly different version each time. I am trying to build a new quiz and I do not see this function in new quizzes. The Canvas guide for this feature makes no distinction between the directions for doing this in the classic quizzes vs the new quizzes, and does in fact list as one of the steps that the instructor should choose either classic quizzes or new quizzes. I would love to resolve this without breaking my question banks into much smaller banks.
The Canvas guide specifically for adding all/random questions from an item bank seems to work well for my instructors. It's important to note though that New Quizzes does not have question banks; it uses item banks instead. Same concept, but you will need to convert your question banks into item banks to be able to use them in New Quizzes.
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Yes, this is what I ended up doing. It's not a perfect solution for me though because the item banks are quickly growing in number and I'm having to duplicate questions between banks. This will allow me to have, for example, everything from say section 2.3 in one bank, as well as another bank for each question that I'd like to have multiple versions of. This means the overall section 2.3 bank has lots of duplicate questions that are slightly different, so it's won't be as useful for chapter reviews. Ideally I'd have more categories for each section, such as graphs/critical thinking Qs, but it doesn't seem like this is going to be very practical.
The way I have used Canvas quizzes before let me focus on what I wanted in each quiz, and see the details of each question while building the quiz, as well as easily see how many questions are in that pool. This way requires a lot more back and forth to get an idea of what the final quiz has in it (i.e. I can't see any questions, only notations of what bank those questions are pulled from; furthermore, I can't see directly from the quiz build how many questions are in that bank, I only get alerted if there aren't enough).
The lack of practice quizzes is a major issue for me and other colleagues because, as language teachers, we rely massively on quizzes (especially this year that we are set to be doing a lot of our teaching online). I know that it is possible to set the New Quizzes so that they are worth 0 points and do not count towards the grades, but the fact that they HAVE to be set as an assignment creates a huge problem: without practice quizzes, every single quiz will appear in the syllabus and I would have at least 6 quizzes per week in a 24 week course! This will get very messy, very fast.
I know I can just hide the course summary in the syllabus, but that still would leave us with the problem of students having tens of confusing "assignments" on their calendar (I believe they still would appear under "undated"). Also, I just discovered that hidding the course summary hides the mini calendar and assignment weighting information on the right side of the page too, which renders the syllabus pretty much useless!
Being able to just have the quizzes as practice and add them to the modules where necessary without them being categorised as assignments is the ideal, as it is the case with Classic Quizzes. They may not be as fancy, but they are much more user friendly.
I cannot understand why the choice was made to remove this essential option - a newer engine should offer the same features as the prior one plus additional ones, not less! I really hope this is something that will be implemented soon.
I just realised this also affects the grades page quite badly. So even if I give up on the Syllabus features by hidding the course summary and calendar, the students will still have to scroll through the tens of non-graded quizzes in order to be able to see their exam grades!
Practice quizzes are not impacted by the late penalty at all and do not show up in the grade book. Either the practice quiz function needs to expand to new quizzes or the old quiz engine needs to be retained for practice quizzes.
Exactly - thank you, @Steven_S ! The elimination of practice quizzes affects a lot of aspects in Canvas and has a big impact on how you can and cannot set up a course. It is very limiting and has a lot of negative consequences that I don't think were thought through.
Thanks for bringing this up, @Stef_retired . There is an obvious dearth in the New Quizzes feature set compared to old quizzes or quizzes in any other LMS for that matter. It is inexplicable to me why Instructure continues prioritise minor features (such as history in the latest release) over much more impactful changes such as this one. Let's hope for someone is reading these threads.
I agree with the above. Practice Quizzes and "survey" (ungraded) options are wonderful tools that we loose in New Quizzes. I don't want to send my students out of Canvas to complete a survey or practice. Thank you.
I hate New Quizzes, honestly. I don't like the "look." I think it's harder for teachers to edit and grade. No lockdown browser available. No practice quizzes and survey options? What else am I missing?
@rislis I also need practice quizzes, and I hope this idea will result in that function being added sooner rather than later. For now, my practice quizzes are still in classic quizzes to avoid the problem.
You might like to know that lockdown browser now works with new quizzes. As a result I have been able to transfer my graded quizzes to new quizzes. I do not find it dramatically more difficult to use - except if I start a question by creating the wrong question type, or start writing my prompt in the question title box. Those work flow steps will require some time to get used to, but classic quizzes had quirks we got used to also.
We've attempted to use smart lists and workflows to "grade" answers and generate basic metrics (# correct, etc.). However the grading via workflows is too slow as workflows are too variable in time to run - we need instant results upon quiz "submit."
We need the results stored in the contact's profile, with historical, meaning each subsequent score should be recorded independently. We also need the ability to drive simple metrics, i.e. "average test results," "average question results," etc. per contact and per contact group.
I was thinking through this a little more, and another way to achieve this with relatively standard functionality of tooling (requiring as little coding as possible) is going to be using something like Typeform and embedding those forms on your HubSpot pags. Typeform allows you to do calculations/scoring based on responses, and then more robust redirects/certificates (i.e. -generate-certificates-from-quizzes-or-exams/)
I am looking to do the same as above. I see this thread is from 2018. Are there any updates to this or is Typeform still the best way to manage quizzes. I want to do a series of quizzes and if they are completed I want to resend the emails. When all 4-5 quizzes are complete I want another automated email to send.
So I decided on Typeform! It gives us instant results, and we set workflows around the results to increment their quiz attempts / correct vs incorrect answers / etc. in Hubspot. Exactly what we needed.
I suppose I'm reading "we need instant results upon quiz submit" differently. Since that was done in-app previously, I'm sort of taking things at face value. I'm measuring the "time" as how long it takes for the entire job to complete, until the time the properties get updated and the automation executed in HubSpot.
But if the original poster is looking for the form results to get graded, so HubSpot can do something with it, I'm not certain Typeform/Zapier - or any other integration which has some sort of delay or scheduled jobs to sync data to HubSpot - is faster than the workflow scheme they're currently using.
If we assumed that they want to show a score first, and then do something with HubSpot. It's probably be easier to run some math functions in Javascript and pass the "end_score" variable around until the end, where they could show on either the existing screen, or on a followup screen.
We did this with Inbound Speed Round. We store a variable for their score, pass it around, then at the end of the game, ie: (timer hits 0), we push it to Local Storage. Then the final submit score sends a hidden form and redirects the user to the scoreboard page.
For things like this, Localstorage is perfect as it's clientside, but then you're still able to push to the contacts database. And if you're worried about hogging someone's storage, you could run a remove on the key value once the scoreboard page loads. For people who may wan't to know how this works, here is a quick small mock up:
So now, the user has score saved in browser. LocalStorage items don't really have a specific expiration date, they are mostly up to the user. These things can be removed if the clear the cache, delete history, remove the items from their storage by hand, or you programatically do it.
So to summarize this, if you need the user to see information before you can log it in HubSpot, local storage is an awesome way to pass a variable or two around pages. Local storage is specifically tied to the computer it's set in, so there are also no major security flaws in it. However, I wouldn't store passwords in it. Also, if someone has some JS know-how they could set an item from console and transfer through pages. You will want to make sure to check whether buttons are clicked with conditionals as well. 152ee80cbc
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