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If I am playing a 30 minute game, is it cheating if I have an actual chess set with me and copy the moves that are happening online? I usually make less mistakes if I play on an actual board instead of on the screen, so before I do that I wanted to make sure it is okay to do that.

It is not allowed. You would be able to move pieces on a real board and thus you would be able to easily see the state of the board when you calculate moves that hasn't happened yet, instead of using your visualization skill.

In daily chess, it would be ok, because you actually get such a board as a tool.

But not in live play.

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I agree with this. I get a grasp of a position much faster looking at a real board and pieces than working with an on-line diagram and blunder much less. But I don't do it because, in a time limited game the extra time it takes to duplicate the moves on the physical board becomes a severe handicap when the time pressure starts.

Chess. com has openly admitted using a real board is considered outside help. And thus, is not allowed. However, when called out on it they revised their position. Chess.com claims they want to promote the real chess experience as much as possible, which obviously would include using a real board. So when they realized they are contradicting themselves, they reluctantly admitted using a real board is ok to do.

Obviously using a real board would have to be done as you would in an actual real game of chess. Meaning you only move the pieces as you would in a real over the board game. No "practice" moves allowed.

@Elbow_Jobertski. Regardless of one's perception of honesty this will still be cheating. For example...as outlined in FIDE rules it is illegal in OTB matches to write your planned/possible moves down in advance of you playing them. Diagramming a move online is an even stronger more overt version of this. Online platforms were not designed to enforce FIDE chess rules but are nonetheless used for rated games. Many an organization has struggled with the challenges naturally present when using online platforms for official matches and online platforms are not in any way beholden to make sure that you cannot perform actions that are popular on their platform but if used during official matches would be illegal. Ability to exercise something on an online platform does not make it honest or legal for a match...it just makes it possible to execute.

Some people have problems looking at a 2-d board. Using a real board cannot possibly be cheating, unless you move the pieces around on it. If you move the pieces around on a board in a live game, then that's cheating.

Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.

What you're really saying is that online there is the opportunity to cheat with an engine that doesn't occur during a OTB game unless the person goes to the lavatory frequently between moves or is getting signals from an observer.

AnhVanT wrote:Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.

I played my first ever proper OTB tourney (5 min blitz) last evening against a bunch of regular club players. I got absolutely trashed, including by two little girls. But several people told me the best way to improve is to join a club and play club chess and learn from the people around you. They said online chess helps your improvement less and it is also full of people using engines.

Random openings with strategical purposes are good! But, play 1100-1300, you will see. They make random move and out of the book as soon as move 4. I am learning chess not to beat those guys. I am learning chess to beat people at the club and maybe, get some scholarship in my college. So, no thanks, no online chess

When I play against someone use such a dubious opening, I get upset. LOL, I don't know why but 1...e5 2...Qh4 get me really mad. I just go all out to chase for that lady and get blunders. LOL, I don't know but that kind of opening violation cannot keep me calm!

People just want to win. Bottom line. Nobody likes a loser. People cheat in every other game on the internet, people download hacks, glitching, code etc to guarantee a win. They don't care about gaining real skill against live opponents in person. They want to win. Your personality type that draws you to competitive games has allot to do with it. Chess players are highly competitive, chess players hate losing. So if they can get away with cheating, they will. Look at physical sports, and people use steroids etc. Everyone wants an advantage, a fix in the game. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Chess.com can keep banning accounts left and right, and these people will just make another one, and be back to sabotage the chess.com servers again. It's a losing battle. I hate losing to cheaters, but it is what it is. The only legit games are in person OTB. There is too much temptation to cheat online. So just expect it, and play on. My 2 cents.

Chess.com is the only chess I can get. It's not perfect but it is very good. I find I get conditioned by looking at all the facilities in chess.com where I just make auto responses and seem to lose the capacity to think. This happens in games and I find myself down in a game. Then I start to think and usually retrieve the situation to a degree and give a better game or sometimes win. Unless I'm bored I stay away from live chess and play daily stuff. I've started entering matches and tournaments and it gives a better discipline.

I'm finding out that I keep stay around the 930 level on here, but in real life, I have a rating of approx. 1400. In over the board, I don't leave pieces on here en prise, but here I do it pretty often, so I know for sure that I am worse on here. Why is that? How can I play as good as I do in real life on here. If I can't learn to play as well as I do in real life, I can't really have good practice here. I am noticing that I leave them en prise closer to the end of the game with slightly reduced material. E.g, I played this game against a player who was about 370 points ahead of me (about 1300) and I would have likely beaten him, except for, I left my queen en prise.

(Newly added):One possible reason I might stay at this level is that I get overconfident about my moves and I forget to see if it is a blunder, or don't take long enough to do. But if that's the case, why don't I in real life?

It's probably because you are not playing as seriously online as when you play "in real life." I know that's true for me. I sometimes log in when I have a few minutes to kill, and then make my moves without much thought. At times, I have some other appointment or event in a few minutes and have to rush to get in my move(s). Often, I am playing with distractions in the background. In contrast, if I play an "official" OTB game, it is usually as part of a tournament, where they enforce rules about no noise etc. I am also in a more serious mood because the whole reason I am at the tournament is to play chess. That is not to say that I play perfectly or don't ever blunder at an OTB tournament; it's just that the probability is lower because I am playing more seriously and paying closer attention to the game.

Well, let me explain it this way Darkness (nice name by the way)... If you sit in a room filled with mindless baboons who put a chess set on a table and would be seen as amateur to ordinary players, then you'll have a very good chance of defeating every single one of them and if by chance any of those players are "rated" after having beaten similar amateur players, then there is a good chance that you could have an inflated rating yourself. It is similar to pouring sand in a sandbox. At home, you have a small sandbox with less sand. Online, you have a big sandbox with more people (thousands) some overrated, some under rated, some just simply crazy or close to borderline insane. So, I hope I have helped to clarify the situation for you without making it sound overly confusing or pressing your mind to the brink of exhaustion. e24fc04721