This got me thinking about the need for a satisfying ending and how, in many books, I have been more disappointed by a trite or glib happy ending than I ever have by books in which evil doers get away (at least in part) with their misdeeds.

A good example of different senses of this is the 1986 movie Brazil. The original has a rather bleak ending with the protagonist hanging just beyond sanity. But US producers thought it was too dark and ending and insisted on an American Hollywood style happy ending with the good guys winning. While it could go either way, I rather preferred the original.


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I want justice generally or I feel just as robbed as the victims and characters. Does it have to be a happy ending- not necessarily as long as it is complete and well wrapped up. I think it is normal to want to see justice served. We want to root for the underdog and the good guy, we want them to succeed against long odds and evil doers and sometimes the only justice and satisfaction we get comes from a good book.. vicarious justice- hmmmm, interesting.

Let me know in the comments if you have any thoughts on this topic! Do you like happy endings after a dark and twisted horror? Do you always believe it when the protagonist defeats the killer and ends up going back to their lives in a thriller?

I guess that I prefer happy ever after, too. A Knight In Shining Armor one of my favorite books, but, in my opinion, it also had the most disappointing ending. Maybe Jude knew what she was doing, since people are still talking about the end of that book, but it ruined the story for me.

I hope the final book has a happy ending, rb. I wouldn't mind it being a difficult climb though. ;) Can't wait for it. 

Can you tell us more about why you had to say good-bye? If it's true love isn't that a contradiction? Perhaps you just think it is true love? need more deets.

I believe that a happy ending is always expected in a romance novel, however, it becomes old and boring. This is the reason I don't read them. 

It's so obvious what is going to happen, as if there's a set script

to follow.


I love a book that goes against all the rules and does something out of the ordinary. Life's not a fairy tale after all. That's just my opinion though.


I'm sure there are still many people who believe in fairy tale endings.


I'll be looking forward to seeing how Natalie's Edge ends!!






I 100% disagree. You can NOT bill a novel a romance and it not end happy. I will be angry if they don't end up together. That is just my opinion. Have the drama and conflicts of course. But it must end well! Rb--well?

Sorry I haven't responded to you all! Went on vacation. I did finish Redemption. And sorry, (Julie in particular :) ), it does have a happy ending. I just had to and I agree. "To bill it a romance" it must meet that criteria. I do, however, still need to finish the dark romance. Now that? Anything goes. Right? New blog coming tomorrow!

I find myself challenged to write stories with an actual happy ending. While in general it is expected of romance to end sometimes a separation is the better option. Let's say we have two equally dominant characters who can't fit their personalities together no matter how much they love and respect each other. No compromise can be achieved and they keep struggling to be on top. I'd prefer an honest separation to a false happy ending in which they end up together "because the author says so". And sometimes the author has no control and simply must write the story's natural sequence.

Just my opinion.

Thanks, Lilah. I struggle with this. The last book in my series is romance through and through...and it almost wasn't. But I'm happy with it because it IS what the characters did and wanted. But I have this argument ALL the time with writers and readers of Romance in general. That's why I asked the question! I DO like my happy endings. :)

I've heard advice that "romance" novels are meant to satisfy, well, a desire for romance, and so an ending without a "happily ever after" disqualifies a book from the genre. And indeed, it's hard for me to recall a "straight" romance that doesn't end well.

On the other hand, romance is a rich genre with lots of character attention; I could see a well-written "unhappy" ending being tragic, but satisfying. And I've just read several YA books (Every Day by David Levithan and The Fault In Our Stars by John Green) which are almost entirely about one romantic relationship, but have sad endings. (Is it possible these aren't romances? If not romances, what are they?)

Genre boundaries are pretty important for marketing purposes, telling the reader what to expect. That's why it's important for me to understand whether "unhappy ending" falls within the "typical" boundaries of the romance genres, or not.

Life like literature and writing in general, is not always about happy endings, break the boundaries and find what works and write, its not about what others think in the end, you have to be proud of your work.

But over the course of five years, only one of them adheres carefully to those rules, only one of them treats their relationship with the respect it deserves. And by the end of the novel, it is quite clear what Daphne must do, what choice she must make. I hope that choice is met with a celebratory fist pump by the reader.

Despite the harm that multiple characters inflicted on the protagonists of the novel, the likes of the Princess, Roscuro, and Despereaux had no other choice but to forgive that harm or else be torn apart. Through the power of a shared meal, Roscuro left his bitterness behind him. Miggery Sow gets to borrow a crown. Despereaux gets to happily be in the presence of the princess. And all of them get to stand around some soup and be happy there.

The problem with these kinds of fairy tale endings being transferred onto lengthier, dare I say more mature?, narratives is that it gives the reader the literal best-case-scenario ending and likewise ignores the obvious fact that romance is not a spark but rather is a seed that needs to be planted, cultivated, and grown. The derision for these kinds of endings stems from experience. If only we readers could defeat our evil stepmothers and find out that the rest of our happy lives are laid out before us.

When discussing the happily ever after trope in a fantasy novel, there are generally two identifiers: 1) To avoid dealing with grief and loss post-book, few named characters are killed off, and 2) To establish a happy future for the characters, the ending is written with the clear assumption that all of the relationship pairs will survive and thrive post-book. Of course, the current market dictates that some level of realism be infused into the overall plot, that the author acknowledge the cost of the conflict.

Here's a bit about the movie: Jane Lockhart (Karen Gillan) sends her debut novel to publisher Tom Duval (Stanley Weber) for consideration. He agrees to publish it, and signs her for a second novel, too. But trouble starts when Jane gets writer's block and struggles to complete her second novel. Her debut was such a success that now Tom believes she's too happy to write and sets out to make her miserable so she'll finish her second book and his company won't go bankrupt. He thinks his plan is brilliant until he starts to fall in love with her.

The romance genre is the only one that requires the happy ending. All other genres are up for grabs. ? In my opinion, The Sixth Sense movie with Bruce Willis had the best ending of all times. The questions were all answered in a satisfying way, and it was definitely a shocking ending. Those writers did an awesome job.

One of my favorite movies is The Empire Strikes Back. Definitely not a happy ending for our plucky heroes. However, it was the proper conclusion to that part of the story and let us continue into the next movie. It worked as part of a series. Another great example of not happy endings would be Every Game of Thrones Book.

I do enjoy happy endings but there are some stories that require an ending that allow me to create my own ending. The old b/w movies that I love often left it to the audience to decide what the future held for the couple! I am looking forward to An Appalachian Summer!

Life is just as full of sadness as it is of happiness. To ignore that fact is to limit both our personal experience of human existence and our ability to write truthfully about life. To cap every story with a happy ending is dishonesty to both ourselves and our readers. The moment fiction becomes dishonest is the moment it becomes useless.

@Mshatch: I would venture to say that almost everyone prefers happy endings for the most part. I certainly do. But happiness, as you and Mooderino have pointed out, is rarely fairy-tale complete. The characters rarely escape from their trials completely unscathed, and so there is some sadness over what they have lost, even in the midst of their triumph.

When I was 10 years old I was shocked when Robin Hood died in prison in the last chapter of the book. I expected a happy ending and justice for the big hero. Later I learnt to appreciate books without a happy ending >:)

@Michelle: Nobody can be blamed for liking happy endings. Very few of us want sad endings for our lives, and, of course, that preference is mirrored in our literature choices. But sad stories have their place too, if only to make us appreciate the happy ones all the more!

Many of my novel endings are both happy and sad. Happy that the trouble is over, but sad because the villain had great qualities that were wasted in his or her obsession. Either the villain winds up in jail, converted, losing his way, or dead.

Well death of a character is very different kind of unhappy ending. I was thinking more along the lines of a couple not working out or perhaps their disagreement is not resolved within the context of the pages/story. Not necessarily death of a character, though that would be included no doubt. 2351a5e196

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