I was looking at the redux sample back in March. I figured it out by copying the simple widget and updating it to subscribe to the value that the redux widget stores. I have attached it here. There are comments in the code indicating everything I did to update the simple widget to turn it into the simple-redux-subscribe widget.

As Dan said once, (I can't remember where... probably Slack) we're aiming to be like the Koa of Flux libraries. Eventually, once the community is more mature, the plan is to maintain a collection of "blessed" plugins and extensions, possibly under a reduxjs GitHub organization.


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It is the Redux store. The store holds one global state object. There are no multiple stores and no multiple states. The store is only one instance in your application. In addition, it is the first library dependency you encounter when using Redux. Therefore, use the import statement to get the functionality to create the store object from the Redux library (after you have installed it with npm install --save redux).

In this section, you will introduce your first middleware to the Redux store. In a larger application, it becomes often a problem to track state updates. Often you don't notice when an action is dispatched, because too many actions get involved and a bunch of them might get triggered implicitly. Therefore you can use the redux-logger middleware in your Redux store to console.log() every action, the previous state and the next state, automatically to your development tools in your browser when dispatching an action.

But who passes the props to the Stories component then? It's the first component that needs to know about the list of stories from the Redux store, because it has to display it. The solution is to upgrade the Stories component to a so-called connected component that has access to Redux state and actions by using the two arguments mapStateToProps and mapDispatchToProps in a higher-order component called connect from react-redux. So, instead of only exporting the plain Stories component in the src/components/Stories.js file:

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there are known issues in maintaining the context when using redux. In short, you need to bridge it, see redux store context not being passed through babylon react components?  Issue #126  brianzinn/react-babylonjs  GitHub

Indeed, redux does list Elm and other very functionally oriented ideas in the prior art sections of their documentation ( -art) along with less direct references to other functional languages specific implementations. On a personal note: at the time I learned it, it was one of the things that drew me towards it as a compromise between things I needed to get done and where Elm was at which made it seem like a balance between the great ideas Elm had and reality. It also feels like the same basic idea can be seen in so many other things (sometimes predating or sometimes not) once it clicks.

Note: this project is quite stable, but is currently in maintenance mode. Critical fixes will still be released, but for now no additional features or changes will be considered as the maintainer @jayphelps is not actively working on any apps that use redux-observable (or any UI apps at all, actually.) If you would like to become a maintainer, please reach out to @jayphelps. There is some ongoing discussion around a potential 2.0.0 release (based on the current alpha) if you'd like to join in.

There are now a myriad of libraries (redux-observable, redux-saga, and redux-thunk to name a few) built around Redux to help us manage data from the backend, each adding a layer of complexity to an already boilerplate-heavy library. I believe most of these miss the mark. Sometimes we need to take a step back before taking a step forward.

React-Query and context api can never replace redux (they are not the same thing ).and he is not overkill , the one time i think redux is overkill is if you are working on small projects , you can argue that we can use other state management solutions like xstate maybe but to build a scalable and maintainable application we need a centralized state .

That is very true - they are not the same things. But that is exactly the point of this article: redux is a global state management library, while react-query (or SWR) are cache management libraries. And the reality today is that most web applications (I would dare to say more than 95%) do not need global state management at scale, they need sophisticated caching library, because "single point of truth" is not in redux state - it's in the DB, coming from your api.

And I would argue about following "to build a scalable and maintainable application we need a centralized state" - I've refactored so many relatively complex react applications away from redux and they all became a lot more predictable and thus more scaleable and easier to maintain (not to mention that number of lines became 5-10 times less).

I totally Agree with you.I've used redux for many year, and also redux-toolkit that has become the set of tools that is built by the redux team and is now the official library that the teams recommends. I agree that it has solved many redux problems in terme of boilerplate, complexe logic, etc..And it's more beginner friendly that redux.But, since last year, i've started using react-query.

When people say that redux and react-query don't try to solve the same problem, i don't really at 100%.Today redux is mainly used for trying to manager the server state if even it can be used for something else(for which the context API would be sufficient).What i really love is the way it's implements the concept of "single source of truth", cuz in the redux word, the "single source of truth" is just an plain JS object sitting in the client application, so to try make your redux store in sync with the API, they are many other solutions to plug on or reimplement some logic manually to make your redux logic more complex and less understandable.That's where react-query come in action, and i really believe that it will "kill" for "new projets" in some years, because of the concept of how it implements the "single source of truth" with your collection bound and in sync with the updated server state and for any other mechanism , no need to write complex code because everything you need you get if with just some few configurations.

There's also many other non-technical requirements for using redux that I won't speak to. For example, it makes interviewing or filtering easier. Yes redux, especially a lot of redux? You probably have enough frontend. No redux? You probably don't. If you work somewhere where everyone has a Ph.D. and skill is not an issue because everyone learned Redux in four hours then maybe everyone is excited and will use "centralized state". But if you don't, if you work somewhere with enterprise software where everyone wants to get home on time not work overtime and most important not spend hours and hours writing boilerplate (or engineering solutions to avoid boilerplate, a fraught business itself), then redux could be a curse.

However, redux might be a good choice for rich applications, where the front-end is practically a full-featured desktop application, and the back-end serves as mere storage for BLOBs (with metadata).

My opinion is based on experience with a large / enterprise application using Apollo GraphQL. And, that I've just migrated my pet project from custom-crafted very-sub-optimal redux caching solution to react-query.

I agree that there is a tendency in the community to use redux before it becomes necessary and to do so without understanding the benefits it provides. However, to suggest SWR and and React Query as an alternative to redux is harmful and MISLEADING. You could pair them with redux to form a pretty effective stack.

I have shipped complex production apps with and without using redux. It usually depends on the use case, app's requirements and complexity in the application's state management. I've found that in applications where redux is not a good fit, apollo client is. This is because apollo client utilizes a normalized state in to form of apollo cache. Apollo client sort of abstracts out the custom plumbing you would otherwise have to write if you were using redux and if the out of the box features in apollo client are enough for you, it may just be enough. Some of those apps still benefit from redux like patterns though, like using the useReducer hook in complex components.

In the Redux docs, it has plenty of examples of using it for storing backend state (redux.js.org/recipes/structuring-r...), so I disagree with you that that was never the intention, not to mention all the libraries that have sprung up (mentioned in the article above, such as redux-saga) to deal with backend state. If it was never the intention, I would expect Redux docs to warn against this very tempting use case instead of showing you how to do it. From experience, I would say there are plenty of people using it for this reason, maybe even the majority.

As a heavy back-end (mostly rails) dev who can work on front-end, it always seems redux is an overkill to me with a massive blilerolate. I will explore this option of react query which seems very simple. Thanks for sharing this with us.

For our getting started tutorial, we are going to use the trivial Counter demo from the Redux repo. The application is quite basic but is a good fit to illustrate the basic concepts of redux-saga without being lost in excessive details.

Sagas are implemented as Generator functions that yield objects to the redux-saga middleware. The yielded objects are a kind of instruction to be interpreted by the middleware. When a Promise is yielded to the middleware, the middleware will suspend the Saga until the Promise completes. In the above example, the incrementAsync Saga is suspended until the Promise returned by delay resolves, which will happen after 1 second. e24fc04721

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