Any amount of alcohol can be added to a borg, but many instructional videos on social media show individuals adding up to a fifth of vodka or other alcohol to their borg. A fifth of alcohol contains 750 milliliters, or approximately 25.4 fluid ounces, of liquor. Since a standard drink contains 1.5 fluid ounces of alcohol, a borg that contains a fifth of alcohol will contain approximately 17 shots of alcohol.

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When you have a look at the groups and permissions on red.machine.yh, is your borg-user there? I would expect that it is, and that it has SSH or SFTP permissions,

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This way the user has permission to access the system

I've been using borg for backups for about a year on several systems and have been very satisfied with it. However, it recently stopped working due to dependency upgrades (see FS#61346 and FS#61684) and the maintainer has apparently made it clear that he is reluctant to implement easy fixes to ensure that the software continues to work for all users (see the flyspray discussions). The nail in the coffin for me is this:

A backup system that deliberately depends on deprecated software is clearly not something to rely on in the future so I am not looking for an alternative asap while I can still recover my data. The main features that I enjoyed in borg were the deduplication and the fuse mounting which made it easy to retrieve backups. Can anyone recommend something similar?

Hi Xyne,

Very sad, same as you...

I keep on - for a while - to use my automatized borg-scripts as I can mount and extract backups with the python venv workaround, but I added manually rdiff-backups

Borg version 1.1 is probably more appropriately named borg-lts under the typical Arch naming convention. It is in maintenance mode and the author isn't comfortable making drastic changes that could potentially introduce bugs. Remember, this is backup software we're talking about. Whether you or I think the necessary code change is simple is irrelevant. The author clearly doesn't feel this way, and is uncomfortable introducing bugs into a maintenance release of his backup software.

What really frustrates me is the downright inflammatory discourse that some Arch representatives have directed at the borg author. I've been pretty impressed with how much class Thomas Waldmann has demonstrated here. A quick browse of the FS#61346 and you can see a particular TU (who should know better) throwing a millennial-neck-beard-temper-tantrum that his niche Linux distro isn't being respected above all else. If this person's resume ever crossed my desk, a quick web search would show that he is basically unhireable for anything that involves collaborating on a team.

@Xyne

I do agree with you that this makes borg a difficult solution to suggest to fellow Arch users. I personally find the software to be too good to completely dismiss, and worth pursuing workarounds for the time being. Cloud providers like rsync.net even support borg/attic as remote targets (which is my primary use for borg).

For my purposes, I've created a PKGBUILD that bundles borg and its dependencies into a virtualenv and puts it under /usr/share/borg. Not ideal but it's a pretty simple solution to continue using Borg while we wait for 1.2 to finish. I tried to post this as an alternative under the bug report but I got beat down pretty hard and had my attachment removed. I tried to post to an alternative location to download the PKGBUILD but that was deleted pretty quickly. I'm hoping I don't get banned from the whole internet for publishing it here:

Thank you for the PKGBUILD - works well and I saved it in my archives just in case - it allows now the borg mount and borg extract commands

Note : I before installation had to receive GPG keys as follow :

Given that a backup program needs to be extremely stable and given that a python source program on Arch will always be perhaps a little brittle to Arch's bleeding edge python version changes, perhaps the Arch borg packager may instead consider basing the borg package on the official standalone binary releases? Alternately, would anybody object if I added (and maintained) a borg-bin package in the AUR for that? I have created a simple PKGBUILD that builds 64 bit, 32 bit, and various ARM packages.

I used borg at one stage, and went through duplicity and attic as well... I found restic to be by far the best IMHO. Simple, fast, reliable. I would strongly recommend anyone looking for a new backup tool to at least evaluate it.

Hi fukawi2

Following you I Tried again restic - and again couldn't get the equivalent of the(very fast) "Mount" function in borg (to only see and control then simply unmount) - neither to include hidden files

Neithertheless it gave a speed backup and is a good option

On the otherhand, if we don't improve borg rsnapshot is looking for a new maintainer if anyone has the time. I believe deduplication is one of the features proposed, but left with only partial support implemented, or only an implementation for one of many use cases. Has the advantage of being fast to browse.

In the end, the only reasonable solution IMHO would be to implement a kind of backend plugin structure directly in borg, and implement a plugin based on libuplink. But this is far from trivial, there have been discussions about doing S3 in borg since 2016 but is until now perceived by borg insiders to remain quite challenging.

Okay, so i saw in the other post you where saying to place the enviroment vairables into /etc/default/openmediavault-borg directory. Is that possible now or in the future version? also how would i do that if it is possible?

Unfortunately, I don't have a better way to work that. To create a new repo that requires environment variables, you will have to temporary add them to /etc/default/openmediavault-borgbackup until the repo is created. e24fc04721

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