Disclaimer: most of what’s being said is said through shared laughter between the hosts. For ease of transcript, I’ve incorporated the word “lol” to display laughter required for context.
Zoid: Alright guys, it’s six o clock on Tuesday evening you know what that means *Laser noises* I don’t have my soundboard lol. You’re listening to WINR Eagle Air, specifically the show Auditory Autopsy. And I’ll figure out how to say that normally one day, not today.
DJ Roe: That’ll take away from the charm of it, what's the point haha.
Zoid: Alright, so how was your week, DJ Roe?
DJ Roe: Ohh, it's only Tuesday. Yesterday was… long. And today was long and tomorrow will be long as well I’m sure because it's the end of the semester so everything is due everyday.
Zoid: Oh, yes. I have three tests tomorrow and I only have three classes.
DJ Roe: That’s terrible. What’s your song of the week?
Zoid: My song of the week is The Promise by When In Rome.
DJ Roe: Is there a reason for this? I’m really curious because I love this song.
Zoid: It's stuck in my head and I don't know why. I think there is a reason why it was stuck in my head, like I thought of a line IRL, like I said something similar or someone else said something similar to a line in the song and then I started singing the song. Like, you get this, I know you get this when you like. Say something and its very cinematic and then the song with the exact line starts playing in your head.
DJ Roe: Yeah.
Zoid: That’s like. 90 percent of my life and that's how I develop my song of the week, whatever is the most recent song I've gotten stuck in my head via that.
DJ Roe: Yeah when that happens to me I will be annoying and I will just start singing the song so everyone has to know.
Zoid: Hahah yes. Exactly. Every single time.
DJ Roe: My song of the week is An Old Photo of Your New Lover by The One AM Radio-
Zoid: Of MY new lover?? An old photo of MY new lover??
DJ Roe: YOUR new lover yes - cuz I was thinking about The One AM Radio all week. And that’s a solo project by Hrishikesh Hirway. It's a solo project by him and it's really good and you should listen to it if you feel like it.
Zoid: Wow, that was really good. I really like that song, I haven't heard it before. It's catchy.
DJ Roe: Yippee!! I'm winning! I'm up.
Zoid: That's true. Alright so. Today we have a little. Weird and special episode. It's a little… unique if you will. So today we’re doing two albums…
DJ Roe: EPs?
Zoid: One of them is an album
DJ Roe: Really which one?
Zoid: …So today we’re going over Dylan Thom’s new album titled “t” just the letter t. And his is an album; it's only 17 minutes long but it's labelled as an LP. and then after we’re going over his, we will go into Veronica Everheart’s Lighter in the morning EP. It’s titled “Lighter In The Morning ½” so I believe there will be like. A second part to that later.
DJ Roe: That's exciting.
Zoid: That is exciting. That EP was released in 2024 so keep on the lookout for that. But first, let's talk about Dylan. Do you know anything about him?
DJ Roe: I know he is from LA, like many artists are; he is very underground. He was producing things on Soundcloud for a long time and there is also a very long interview of him on youtube that I was not able to listen to but you guys should go check it out. And his main inspiration is his lovely girlfriend Hannah who is also credited as a producer and singer on a lot of the songs on this album.
Zoid: Yeah! So, Dylan Thom, formerly known as Dylan Scott Thomas–
DJ Roe: Oh so it is short for Thomas!
Zoid: Yeah! This is his Genius bio, but it says it was never approved by anyone so I don't know how accurate it is, cause when we cover small artists we kinda just go with what we have.
DJ Roe: Yeah.
Zoid: So he's a US based artist who blends indie folk with alternative styles, drawing inspiration from bands like radiohead. And I was thinking since he goes by Dylan Thom as a stage name, is it a radiohead reference? Thom with an h and Thom Yorke with an h; and when you listen to his music, you're like wow this is so art rock like Radiohead.
DJ Roe: It is. But if his name is really Dylan Thomas, like the dead poet, then I should have queued that song by–
Zoid: Igor Stravinsky?
DJ Roe: Better Oblivion Community Center LMAO
Zoid: Oh.
DJ Roe: Both, both.
Saye: Fun fact by the way. Happy Thanksgiving, guys. On Thanksgiving, I ran a 5k turkey trot and I had my co-host, DJ Roe, make me the worst running playlist ever and she included Igor Stravinsky’s “In Memoriam Dylan Thomas” and that was so funny to be running to, but lowkey it was kinda fun. I don't recommend it. So anyways back to Dylan thom. He's active on streaming platforms and social media, releasing singles and EPs. His music often features heartfelt lyrics and acoustic arrangements. Thom’s first album “t” was released on September 19th, fully self composed and produced. His genre on Soundcloud is labelled as “slacker rock.”
DJ Roe: Oo.
Zoid: And as we said before, it was recorded with his girlfriend, Hannah De Vries. She has a beautiful sound.
DJ Roe: She does; question about the title of this, “t,” I was interpreting this as a cross but that might be wrong.
Zoid: I… so the themes of this album are nostalgia and time passing, so I’m not too sure. The titles on the tracklist are very nostalgic and you can feel the time passing and as you listen to it, you can feel that exploration, too, but I couldn't think of any connections to the album title. Maybe he's going to release three other albums titled “H,” “O,” and “M.”
DJ Roe: HA, that would be really funny. I hope he's listening to give him ideas.
Zoid: Dylan?
DJ Roe: Yes friend of the show.
Zoid: Oh here we go, “t stands for time in science.” That’s a theory… thank you friend of the show, Lee Blessing.
DJ Roe: Fifth Beatle of the show lol.
Zoid: Okay let’s get into it. The first two songs are “Kindergarten” and "Carry.” Let's talk about “Kindergarten.” Do you want to start?
DJ Roe: Sure! So I'm probably going to bring this up about ten thousand times, but Dylan’s ability to paint a picture with his words is very impressive to me. Like most of the album, this song has a very nostalgic feel to it and I can SEE, like, staying up late and watching TV and waiting for someone to come home. Like I can visualize it through the words that he uses. It makes me think of having a very child-like dependence on a person, someone you expect to take care of you. He says "I've created a mess, you'll take care of it” and “hanging on to you like a little kid,” so whether that's genuinely reminiscing on, like, a parent or a sibling or, you know, just an older figure or something, now that you're kind of expecting to take that role either way. I also wanna point out his use of words and how he plays with them, like the rhyme scheme, I really like how he rhymes the word “ribs” with the beginning of the word “television.” Very good.
Zoid: Yeah that was really cool.
DJ Roe: I love that. I definitely feel the grunge influence and the indie influence. I like how straightforward but still impactful the instrumentals are. It's a very short song, but still builds and carries the theme of the lyrics very well. Strong opener, I would say.
Zoid: This is true. Okay so Kindergarten is one of my top three songs on this seven song album.
DJ Roe: HA that's really funny.
Zoid: It has beautiful harmonies with Hannah in that first verse, immediately as we get into it and it’s produced very nicely. It's a little messy with the delays, but it adds that nostalgic feel that he's trying to convey.
DJ Roe: Yeah, I think it's charming. I like songs that are not too clean.
Zoid: Yeah, exactly. That's why self produced albums are *unintelligible noises of positivity*
DJ Roe: Yes, exactly lol.
Zoid: This song is focused heavily on nostalgia, which makes sense with that old home video sounds in the background towards the ending part, and it ending with the glitchy part with the voices and Hannah singing “in my memory;” there's potential that could parallel how memories are often incomplete when thinking back on them.
DJ Roe: Ooo, this is real.
Zoid: We had to really think about this album; there's nothing about it online lol.
DJ Roe: Yeah these are all original thoughts lol.
Zoid: Yeah, haha. I feel like you can immediately feel that Radiohead influence as well; that art rock I mean, anyone who makes music in the year 2025 has some Radiohead influence, especially when you’re 20 something; like, it’s impossible not to because everything you listen to influences you whether you like it or not, but I don’t know. Just that art rock genre, that folksy it’s like if Radiohead was folk. You know, it’s very cute. I like that song.
DJ Roe: Me as well. Moving on to “Carry” specifically spelled CARRY; that’s important for later. I like the religious imagery in this song. I feel like it’s an obvious move on the EP given the title because it kind of looks like a cross and that’s how I think about it. I also don’t want to drag Alex G into everything just because I’m obsessed with him, but this song could be dropped onto one of his records and I would not bat an eye. And not to say that this isn’t original, I think they’re both just really good with this kind of genre and so it’s easy to compare them because they’re both making good music that sounds similar ISH. Cut from the same cloth, if you will. Something I find really interesting. Don’t crucify me for using that word please, is that “Carry” is spelled like the word not the name. That’s not to say that there is not people out there with the name spelled like “CARRY,” because that does happen, but typically it would be “CARRIE.” And I think that spelling combined with all the gun imagery in this song is really fascinating to carry is to have a gun and this song could be about a gun if not a girl or it could be both, but I love that. I’m the most obsessed with gun imagery for someone who doesn’t know how to shoot a gun. And then he compares this girl to violent acts like “she knows how to take a blow” and “she’s my cyanide.” So yeah, it’s really good again to point out his words in the image. It's delicious and I love it.
Zoid: Yeah, I really enjoy his line “she’s everything I want, she knows how to shoot a gun,” but I didn’t process the direct connection to guns throughout the song until DJ Roe said something today. But I didn’t realize it directly because every time I listen to this song, I think I’m like “oh it’s definitely a name.” I look at the title and it’s with a Y. This is why you always talk to people about opinions on songs and things.
DJ Roe: Because then you realize things.
Zoid: Your mind is open.
DJ Roe: He’s in love with his .22 pistol.
Zoid: Exactly. “Carry” was actually his first song ever released on May 2, 2025.
DJ Roe: Strong start.
Zoid: You said he was on Soundcloud for a while before, so I’m pretty sure he had more songs before that, but I think technically this is his first song release?
DJ Roe: Like his first official.
Zoid: I got this from somewhere and it could be wrong because, again, small artists. There's like, four places talking about them lol. If you’re listening with headphones, you probably noticed the mix is heavily played with. In stereo, I feel like we kind of lost a lot of that stereo sound in experimental ways from like mid 2000s to like 2019.
DJ Roe: I agree
Zoid: Since house music and dance music was really popular, they didn’t care as much about it. The experimental art of it all. Songs we would hear on the radio were copy paste. Still good, but copy paste; but if you go back to like The Beatles and like in the 60s and 70s, when it first grew popular to play with, and listening to that, everyone’s like wow that’s really cool. So I really get excited when small artists bring back the experimental part of stereo sound. I really like finding small artists that really utilize the left versus right. It’s very interesting what he does with it because he produces all of his own stuff. It’s just really cool. I don’t know, I really like it. I like how Dylan accompanies himself on these harmonies. There’s that little soft saxophone sound in the end, when it goes chaotic and it’s really cool and I really like this song.
DJ Roe: It is a good song. Our next two songs are called “Sunshine” and “Vaseline.” If you’re an avid listener of the show, you’ve already heard “Vaseline” because my co-host played it the other day.
Zoid: And DJ Roe almost played it last week
DJ Roe: That’s true. It’s really good.
Zoid: All right, so we got “Sunshine” and “Vaseline” featuring Hannah De Vries.
DJ Roe: His girlfriend!
Zoid: His girlfriend who is a photographer and you should check out her work, too, on their Instagrams.
DJ Roe: They do like everything you expect someone from LA to do as a couple
Zoid: They look really cool. I thought they were just friends. And now it’s kind of throwing me off that they are a couple. Not in a bad way. It’s just different. Anyways. Do you wanna start?
DJ Roe: Oh, sure. “Sunshine” lyrically the song feels very restless to me, very exhaustive of the daily monotony of life and trying to get out of bed; non-impressive gray area, you know.
Zoid: Auditory Autopsy talking about monotony for like the sixth week in a row.
DJ Roe: I have words that rotate in my mind over and over again that I bring up a lot and I’m so sorry. I really zeroed in on the line “looking in the mirror always at the same time” because it’s very fun visually, like you and your reflection on the other side are always having these stare downs with each other always at the same time, so you can’t get away from yourself. I think that’s a really good image in this song. This one’s pretty straightforward lyrically but I do want to point out that in the song before he says “she’s my baby yeah she’s my sunlight” in "Carry,” and then this is the song that follows immediately after.
Zoid: You know who else does that? Ben Folds.
DJ Roe: Five.
Zoid: In their “Army” into “My Redneck Past.”
DJ Roe: Loll.
Zoid: That is a really interesting thing to notice-
DJ Roe: Tanks.
Zoid: I…
DJ Roe: Thanks buddy. My number one supporter.
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Zoid: I think “Sunshine” is my favorite one. It’s the one that gets stuck in my head most often, specifically the line “looking in the mirror always at the same damn time.” It’s always stuck in my head. I like the part when he say “always on the wrong track” and then he goes up the octave, “always trying to get back.”
DJ Roe: Yeah, I do like that part
Zoid: His lower active and his higher octave, they sound very different. They sound like two separate entities, and then with Hannah‘s voice thrown in there it definitely feels like a conversation that’s ever looping, which can definitely be a play with that monotony because it’s not like a conversation “they’re talking to each other,” it’s a conversation “they’re always talking past each other” and it kind of feels like you’re inner thought process kind of thing and it’s definitely cool to see how he plays with his lower octave and his higher octave because he doesn’t do that in many other songs. I don’t think he goes up to that upper octave much at all.
DJ Roe: Yeah, caught me off guard when I was listening to this because I was like “whoa, he can do that?”
Zoid: Maybe it isn’t him, ha ha, maybe it’s a new character. It’s very cool to see how he can-
DJ Roe: Maybe that’s Dillon Tomas lol.
Zoid: Loll.I feel like “Sunshine.” It feels very childish, too, more than the others. Specifically in the cadences of their voices and their tone. But I can’t explain why I feel that it just feels like that; it’s very cool. It’s just like “Sunshine.” I feel like it’s very different from every other song on this album in a way you cannot explain. It’s my favorite. It’s beautiful.
DJ Roe: Moving to “Vaseline,” which is the song of all time, the only song ever. We already talked about this, but I want to mention it again. This is the song that officially credits Hannah as being a part of it, but she also helped to produce and sings on the majority of this album, so yeah that’s just relevant. I love songs that explore the more depraved dependent sides of human relationships. It reminds me of that quote. This is not from like a poet, just like a Twitter post or something, but about literary stories it’s like, the Love was there. It didn’t change anything, it didn’t save anyone, but it still matters that the Love was there, and that’s what this song makes me think of. The person is everything, they're killing you in 1 million ways but they’re also healing your wounds and we don’t need the house or the car or the money. Your presence is enough so I’m always good, but it’s what I need and they want that to be mutual with the anxious thought of “if I died, would you take a pause or would you just move on like, does this mean anything to you” asa song it is also just so nice on the ears; it’s beautiful and it’s kind of haunting, especially the distortion of the end. I'm very obsessed with it. It’s very, very good.
Zoid: Yeah, this one definitely pulls some art rock aspect into this song with the effects he puts on it. This is the most popular song, released in August before the album dropped, but the drums are heavier in this song compared to other songs as well, and it’s just more of a rock kind of vibe than that more acoustic vibe. Maybe not acoustic, but the intimate vibe that we had going on in the other songs. It's more like… Broad. Uhhh…
DJ Roe: It’s got a bigger sound than the other songs/
Zoid: Yes yes, the melody is very melancholy. He plays with it so interestingly towards the end when he adds that staccato sound to a lot of his words, emphasizing the short time he takes with it. I’ve always noticed this song since I first listened to it when it came out in August, the line “we don’t need the car or the house or the money,” it ends faster than you expect it to. Like, I always expect it to every single time hold it out longer, but they never do, but they never do.
DJ Roe: I wonder if that means something.
Zoid: And I hate to be that guy. I was talking to my friend about this the other day because I was like I hate pulling out that random symbolism that definitely doesn’t mean anything and I just make stuff up.
DJ Roe: Well, you never know
Zoid: But it’s like…
DJ Roe: The reason that literacy is dead is because people don’t want to believe that anything means anything anymore about anything?
Zoid: Right, just because there is no intent behind it, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t now mean something? Like there’s that joke with the English teacher telling you the blue curtains symbolize depression, and then the author is like they were just blue. It always means something like if you can find that symbolism, if you take something from it, that’s what’s important you know.
DJ Roe: Art is up to interpretation.
Zoid: Art is up to interpretation and there’s nothing wrong if your interpretation is different from what the artist's intent was; that is perfectly OK, as long as you’re not, like, inserting yourself in the wrong places and stuff. Then you can take anything as whatever you want, guys. Big supporter of do whatever you want.
DJ Roe: I’m gonna pull you off your soapbox so we can play the last three songs.
Zoid: Oh, true.
DJ Roe: Those will be “Fishbowl,” “DCC,” and the last song on the album, which is “Everything.”
Zoids: Alright, let's talk about “Fishbowl" first.
DJ Roe: Fishbowl! Am I starting?
Zoid: I can start
DJ Roe: …yeah…
Zoid: Alright! So the heavy bass in this song kind of reminds me of Velvet Underground a little bit.
DJ Roe: I was thinking that earlier!
Zoid: No way.
DJ Roe: But I didn't put that in my notes.
Zoid: Nooo wayyy.
DJ Roe: I had that same thought.
Zoid: Cause I said this out loud and I was like “is that true?”
DJ Roe: I think it's true.
Zoid: And I'm so glad you agreed with me. I really like how he says the line “just two fshes” (typo for effect)
DJ Roe: He has a funny cadence and I like that.
Zoid: Yeah, the way he says things is silly in the most beautiful and depressing way lol.
DJ Roe: Yeah it fits.
Zoid: And I feel like the way he says it that way reminds me of Radiohead’s “Weird Fishes” and I know! They both say fishes, guys. But I do think that song is similar to Radiohead in general as we talked about those influences. And this song, I feel like you can hear some of these faux tape splicing in the vocals in the chorus and definitely in a lot of the other songs too. I just didn't bring it up yet. Tape slicing, if you didn’t know, was used in the 60s and 70s creating innovative sounds by cutting the physical tape of a tape recording and putting it back together to create very unique sounds that weren’t really heard much. The Beatles’ “Strawberry Fields Forever” is arguably the most popular instance of this. Dylan Thom kind of does this as well in other songs Everything is digitized now so no one tape splices anymore unless you’re weird and niche and 60 years old.
DJ Roe: You wanna be cool.
Zoid: Lol, tape splicing is really cool and you could definitely notice how artists are influenced by the Beatles and Radiohead. You can tell what they’re doing, whether or not they know that what they’re doing is similar to tape splicing. I like the abrupt ending of this song, too.
DJ Roe: Uh.. “Fishbowl.” Sleeping with the fishes, alternative title. That's not true, I just said that for fun. Don’t tell Dylan I said that. I like the continuation of the childlike imagery here, like the line "I tied your shoes and I can fly your kit” fits in with the whole theme of the album. This song gives me the feeling of growing up with someone in the same town, or the same bad situation as you and are kind of being glued together through those shared experiences, as he says “just two fishes swimming in a cage, we laughed and cried so long that we forgot its name.” I also wanna say that I love how he themes his songs, it goes back to the imagery thing I guess but the song is called “Fishbowl” and one of the first lines is “some little hook that you can leave to rot in my brain” like obviously in this context hook is like the phrase, but also its what you catch fish with so it works its nice, I like it. I think his writing is very poetic and I enjoy it.
Zoid: Alright, going to DCC, this one is my least favorite on this album.
DJ Roe: Ough.
Zoid: What?
DJ Roe: Starting off so negative.
Zoid: But it's still really good; it’s like least favorite of like, it’s like when everything is really good like this one’s a 9/10 and the others are 10/10.
DJ Roe: Yeah I agree lol.
Zoid: Goodness, didn't let me finish. Uhm, it's definitely, like listening to it in this environment, in the studio, too, definitely changed my viewpoint of it; not entirely, it still is my least favorite.
DJ Roe: Everything sounds so much better in here.
EVERYTHING sounds so much better like theres so many things I didnt notice before like theres that beautiful flute sound and its definitely a switch up musically, this song is a switch up musically and that flute sound like pops in throughout this entire song and at the ends with that little flute solo and that synth part the descending pattern is very nice. This song reminds me with the “oohs” of the song Swap Keys by Jacin, #winthrop shoutout she graduated in 2024. But yeah it really reminds me of that song still. This song definitely brings that folksly vibe with the tambourine the drums aremixed very low in this compared to some other songs that have that full drumset but its a very cool song. Very cool.
Yeah it is cool. I find it interesting that in the first verse there seems to be that sense of yearning like “you won’t come close why not is it something that I did can we fix it” but then in the second verse its like “don’t come anywehre near me or I will stab you”
Don’t come close you might say (name of song)
Yeah… so I feel like its rither the evolution of one specific person or maybe its switching between the person that wants the closeness or the person that cannot stand it like the intimacy of that person makes them uncomfortable and borderline violent. But I really like that back and forth in this song. Cause when you first listen to it youre like awww wait what what happened and I think thats kinda fun.
Yeah definitely. Its very cool to look at the lyrics of that one. Like listening and watching the lyrics its definitely different than hust trying to process them on your own lol.
Yeah subtitles for music even lol
Yeah you know. So lets get into everything. This song is a very beautiful closer to this album. Very slow and sweet. The effects create this ethereal atmosphere. In the studio environment we noticed the big boom after the line “little december there I was” and it was like BOOM and it just like
Oh its so good
Its as if like the floor drops out and then the camera zooms all the way back and its like
Oh my gosh it reminds me of pushing it down and praying if anyone knows that song theres this drop at this one part of the song thats so like gut wrenching and thats…
It kinda reminds me of, im so sorry to sya this, that amazing world of gumball episode where they go through the crack in the wall you know that limbo area
I know exactly what youre talking about
Im so glad. Thats what that release part reminds me of. Its a very crazy effect to have espeically on a self produced piece. Very good job dylan it was very beautiful unless youre lying about it being slef produced but I couldnt find anything saying otherwise so I was like wow very impressed. I liked the soft ending its a very bittersweet fade out I feel like the end cap adds this feeling of the nostalgic passage of time ambiance that I feel like encapsulates the entirety of the album very well.
And its december now just like in the song
Now its december! Happy birthday my roommate
I feel like this song makes me feel like that dread about not being able to recall specific memories or pieces of memories. The music at ooints even sounds like its fading away from him, like the memroy is slowly getting fuzzier. And given the themes of the album, I feel like that makes sense and also makes it a really sad song to end with because its like man we are forgetting. We are old. Uou mnow its a little depressing
I really like how the album starts with kindergarten like that young aspect of it then it ends with this everything I feel like… some might argue this could be a concept album
Thats true! I would argue!
Yeah definitely
Lets argue
…okay