Thinking of Leaving the Sea Org?


                                                      This is what those who came before you have to say           

To ex-Scn and Sea Org friends,

doubt: n. 2. uncertain state of things, lack of full proof. (Concise Oxford Dictionary).

Pope John-Paul II and Mother Teresa both confessed doubt in their faith at the end of their lives:  that's what made them so compelling and effective.

Doubt is the wellspring of exploration, knowledge and creativity.

In Scn, however, doubt is a "lower condition" with drastic penalties (as in other cults, I'm sure). Any wavering or disagreement or just plain doubt about LRH, the "church", its activities, or its current dictator (Miscavige) is considered a crime. viz Orwell's "1984" and "thought crime".

LRH himself provided a formula for resolving the "doubt condition" which every active Scn. knows.


Here is LRH's Doubt Formula in full:

"The Condition of Doubt:

When one cannot make up one's mind as to an individual, a group, organization or project, a Condition of Doubt exists.

The formula is:

1. Inform oneself honestly of the actual intentions and activities of that group, project or organization, brushing aside all bias and rumor.
2. Examine the statistics of the individual, group, project or organization.
3. Decide on the basis of "the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics" whether or not it should be attacked, harmed or suppressed or helped.
4. Evaluate oneself or one's own group, project or organization as to intentions and objectives.
5. Evaluate one's own or one's group, project or organization's statistics.
6. Join or remain in or befriend the one which progresses toward the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics and announce the fact publicly to both sides.
7. Do everything possible to improve the actions and statistics of the person, group, project or organization one has remained in or joined.
8. Suffer on up through the conditions in the new group if one has changed sides, or the conditions of the group one has remained in, if wavering from it has lowered one's status.

If applied honestly, and with adequate research, application of this formula would cause a majority of active Scn's to walk out and slam the door!

Most members have doubts, however deeply buried. They are not blind, just conditioned.




by Operating Lambda on ESMB


Posted:Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:05 am    on OCMB BY TYPE 4  

Being on staff in a lower org has variations all of its own. If you are a lowly central files clerk or book seller, you are going to have a much easier time of it than a top executive or top tech terminal for that org (ahem.)

The below applies to the latter. For the rest of you it's not that hard, really. You can walk out and most likely nobody will bother with it, too much admin.

But for the others:

The org will try to throw at you all these arbitraries as to why you can't leave. They told me I needed to replace myself, that I needed to go to a higher org and pay for the Sec Check, that I needed to continue to work there on a full schedule after my contract was complete "as the routing form is not complete so you are still on staff."

Essentially, there must already be a conviction within you to leave or else these words or another's on here will not give you enough strength to withstand the immense, intense, relentless, persuasive, manipulative, hypnotic PRESSURE you will receive to stay right where you are.

You must be willing to have all your overts from back to the Ark thrown in your face.

You must be willing to be threatened with being declared and losing all your connections and friends.

You must be willing to have all the other staff treat you like you have killed their spouse.

You must be willing to have a lot of sleepless nights wondering when you will ever get to the other side.

And finally, when it becomes evident that the other side is just too damn far down the road, to say the hell with it and walk out, and never look back.

Cuts the time down nicely actually.

Have faith in your ability to survive outside the group. Their has been a subtle hypnotic suggestion throughout that you need that group to survive.

You don't.


Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:50 pm by jax

Dang Type 4!
What happened to you sounded so similar to what happened to me that I had to log on & post just to be sure my identity wasn’t hijacked!! Wink

I ended up walking out too. I tried to do everything standardly but there wasn’t anyway to accomplish that.
It was completely insane.
I couldn’t get routed off, I was expected to replace myself, & the horrible reg cycles to get me to sign a new contract were straight from hell.

The decision to walk away really did cut down the time it took to get it done. Very Happy

The church uses things like contracts, "responsibility to the group” & your “eternity” to create feelings of guilt, torment & hopelessness. Plus all of the old stand-bys in the “ethics tech”.
It doesn’t matter how dedicated you’ve been or how fair you have tried to be. The church is only interested in getting another pound of flesh.

This becomes more obvious once the decision to leave is carried out.
Walk out the door & discover for yourself the immense pleasure in LAUGHING YOUR ASS OFF at a letter sent to you “ordering” you to report someplace.

It is a great feeling to be able to acknowledge that to yourself.

Finally consider this--as I did on my way out the door--LRH wrote something like this (I still don’t have the reference for it) but it was something that set me free:
A thetan is only trapped as long as he considers himself trapped. All he has to do is change his mind & he can just walk right out.


Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:07 pm by daisy

After 29 years of the cult's crap forced on me, it took only one afternoon to wake me up. The organizations are not doing well, lack of public and lack of money. When this occurs, heavy pressure from managment gets forced on staff. This is turn is forced onto the public. The pressure these days to pay for your next service, to donate to the IAS, to put in more course time is tremendous. But there is a good side to this. Public can only take so much until the walls start cracking and they can truly see how brainwashed they have become. The scientology organization is destroying it's own. People are leaving .

Leaving scientology or even thinking about leaving can be life shattering. Just realize you are not alone. Talk to others who have gone before you . It doesn't have to be a scary road ahead if you know that there are people outside who care about you . Those inside the organization can only use the hubbard tech to help and we all know where that will get you.




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