Guild News


posted Oct 10, 2016, 7:53 PM by Claire Knudsen-Latta   [ updated Dec 11, 2017, 3:14 PM by Carolyn Carney ]

Welcome to our new page.  We are in the process of putting it together and thank you for your patience. If you have suggestions or would like to contribute content, please use the "Contact the Guild" link to the left.  Thank you! ~Cynehild

What's up with these weird words?!

posted Sep 24, 2016, 7:47 PM by Claire Knudsen-Latta   [ updated Oct 25, 2016, 11:10 AM ]

An attempt has been made to use terms that reflect the language of late fourteenth and early fifteenth century England, a time and place which saw a flowering of the craft guild system. To balance this attempt with the modern reality of spelling, we've used the modern forms of the words.

Company - From the Middle English, an adaptation of the Old French compa(i)gnie.  It also appears as cǒmpaignīe, compainiecompaniecompagnie, compenie and cumpai(g)nie. It is defined by the University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "a professional group, such as a trade guild or an ecclesiastical body".

Scrivener - from the Middle English, an adaption from the Old French escrivain/escrivein, and Anglo-French escriven/escrivin. Defined by the University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "[a] professional scribe, copyist, scrivener; also, an official who records accounts, a clerk".

Limner - from the Middle English, an adaption of the Anglo-French lymnour and appearing also as limnǒur limnor(e), liminour, limenour, and leminer.  Defined by the University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "[a]n illuminator of manuscripts; also, a member of a gild of illuminators".

Guild Master - from Middle English, an adaption of the Old French maistre and Old English magister.  It appears also as maistere, maistr(e, meister, meistre, mester, mestre, mesteir, and (early) maȝstre. Defined by the University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "one in charge of a guild, college, etc." Guild likewise comes from the Middle English and is an adaptation of the Old English gyld.  UM's Middle English Dictionary defines it as "an association of craftsmen or tradesmen, a craft guild."  Guild Master was used instead of "Master" to avoid confusion with the SCA's traditional title system.  "Company Master" was rejected for being too weird to the ear. 

Warden - from Middle English, an adaptation of the Old Northern French wardain.  It appears also as wardeinewardain(ewardeinwardan(ewardinwerdein, and whardein.  It is defined in University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "An officer of a craft or mercantile guild, in charge of inspecting the workmanship and materials of goods, enforcing regulations, overseeing transactions, etc.; also, an administrative officer of a religious society or fraternal organization"

Beadle - from Middle English, an evolution from the Old English bydel.  It also appears as budel, bidel, beodel, bedel, and (late) bēdel. It is defined in University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "One who makes announcements or carries messages and performs other services on the authority of a lord, court, guild, etc."

Fellow - from Middle English, from the Old Norse/Old Icelandic fe-lagi.  It also appears as fē̆lau(e, felaghe, felauȝe, velaȝe, feloȝe, felou(e, feolah(e, fel(l)a, fel(l)o, fellu, and fel(l)e. It is defined in University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary as "A member of an organized group of associates, esp. of equals under a master or leader".

Want to learn more?  Check out the University of Michigan's Middle English Dictionary!

Our New Home

posted Oct 15, 2009, 1:24 AM by Claire Knudsen-Latta   [ updated Aug 21, 2018, 8:08 PM by Carolyn Carney ]

Our West Kingdom hosted site is live! Please join us:

FAQ on the Dissolution of the College of Scribes

posted Oct 13, 2009, 12:58 AM by Claire Knudsen-Latta   [ updated Apr 12, 2019, 5:19 PM by Carolyn Carney ]

Why was the College dissolved?

The College was chartered specifically to create scrolls for armigerous awards granted by Western royalty.  Collectively, the members of the College have struggled for decades to live up to this obligation, devoting their time, talent and materials to do so.  However, we were NEVER been able to stay ahead of the demand while producing the quality that we want to - there just aren't enough of us to keep up, and it had become an impossible, and often thankless, task.

Why are other Kingdoms able to deliver scrolls and avoid a backlog?  Couldn't we do that here?

It's true that many other Kingdoms don't have the burden of a backlog.  Many of the Western Chancellors over many years researched the practices and culture of these other Kingdoms, and even tried to implement some of them in the West with limited or no success.

Does this mean I will need to pay for my scroll?  I thought that was against Kingdom law?

It is possible that you will find an artist who works for free, but it is likely that you will need to pay or barter them, just as you would likely pay any other kind of artist.  It is true that the College did not allow its members to accept compensation for official assignments - that was because the work was considered a gift from the Royalty to the recipient (in fact, delivering on those "gifts" was the reason the College was formed in the first place).  The premise of this royal gift is being retired with the College.

I requested my scroll and it was on the backlog waiting for a scribe.  What happened to my request?

The obligation of the College to complete any scrolls was retired when the Crown dissolved the College.  It is not within the Charter of the new Scribal Guild to complete the backlog scrolls. That said, the Guild is honored to be the guardians of the list and to help guide award and peerage recipients and artists together. Additionally, there are several individual scribal artists who have volunteered to continue work on the current backlog of requested scrolls, though they cannot commit to a completion date for all that work. 

How do I know if my scroll is currently in the backlog?

Click on the (Scroll Checkout) link on the left navigation bar for the list.

What if my scroll was on the backlog and was assigned to a scribe, but they haven't completed it?

We assume that all the assignments a scribe volunteers for are done in good faith, with the intention of completing the work.  That said, life happens to everyone, and an artist may no longer be able to complete that commitment.  You should check with the scribe who currently has responsibility for your scroll to determine whether s/he is able to complete it.  If s/he is still planning on completing it, you will need to wait for them to finish, or make other, private arrangements.  If not, you may contract with a new scribe of your choice. A list of active scribes can be found by clicking on the (Find A Scrivner or Limner) link on the left navigation bar.

What if my scroll isn't in the current backlog?  What if I get an award in the future and want a scroll done?

If you would like a scroll made that is not already covered by the current backlog, the process is similar to any other art that you might want to be made (like jewelry, clothing, armor, etc):  you should ask around for an artist who takes commissions (paid or not) and make arrangements privately with them to create your art. A list of active scribes can be found by clicking on the (Find A Scrivner or Limner) link on the left navigation bar.

If I am in charge of arranging my own scroll, who deals with the signatures and seals?

It is up to you to decide whether your scroll will include signatures and/or seals and to arrange with the Royalty and/or Heralds for them to be obtained.  Keep in mind that if you do want official signatures and/or seals, you should be aware of what requirements the Royalty and/or Heralds may have, so you can have them incorporated into the art. To determine their requirements, you will need to contact the Royalty and the Heralds directly. For more information on what has historically been required, please see the "Suggested Content" section of the General Policies of the West Kingdom Company of Scriveners and Limners

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