For the latest results check the results page (nested under Patriarchs) and updated analysis on the DNA in Depth Discussion page (Posts are periodically revised or deleted as appropriate, some posts with relevant info are moved to other pages when deleted here )
Most of our updates are being detailed in our Wheaton Wood private Blog. If you are interested please send me an email to be included.
Just wanted to let descendants of the Robert Wheaton group (especially descendants of Ephraim, Samuel, and those with ties to the First Baptist Church of Swansea, MA about an upcoming book. More about the project here:
Baptists in Early North America—Swansea, Massachusetts Volume 1
Series edited by: William H. Brackney With: Charles H. Hartman
Product Code: H871
Binding Information: Hardback
Availability: Not yet published. Will ship on: June 30, 2013
To pre-order direct:
Or at Amazon
Here's what we have accomplished this year:
My wish list for next year:
Please see the updated Devon Wheaton page. This page has all the earliest Wheatons (and Hancock) in Devon. Please note there are several1600's records for Wheatons in Wales two for Christopher one possibly a contemporary of Robert and perhaps the one that shows up in Hull, MA. Christopher was a sailor so this might make sense..
Further revisions on the Origins of the Surname Wheaton. A remote possibility that some Wheatons derive your names from the "meeting of wise men," now we are talking!
WE have reached 33 Members!
Updated DNA for Newbies page with new testing Recommendations.
Possibly but not likely birth for Robert Wheaton.
Robart Wooton bapt 21 Oct 1606 Plymouth St. Andrews, Devon, father Anthonie
New web page here on early Devon Wheatons
Also, how rare is rare? I did a search over at YHRD.org for the Wheaton Group B Haplotype [In this case a Haplotype is a set of values on select markers on the Y-Chromosome]. The database has 101,055 Y-samples worldwide. Doing a search on 16 markers with the Wheaton group B values yields precisely "0" ZERO matches. In a search of 44,707 European samples and only 7 markers the number of matches is a staggering "4". Yes FOUR. So when I say I can spot a Wheaton group B with only 5 markers I'm not kidding. So anyone bearing the Wheaton signature is going to be related and most likely in a genealogical time frame.
I have just concluded a major survey of all the extant 1641/42 Protestation Returns in Devon which tends to strengthen the Wheaton/Hancock match. There is one instance of Wheatons and Hancocks in the same parish of Topsham and many where they occupied adjacent parishes within 5 miles of one another.
Okay a little more on Haplogroups and what that all means. In simplest terms we have in our project representative clusters of the major Y-DNA Haplogroups of Great Britain. In overly simplified terms:
Wetton/Wheaton Group E: Haplogroup I1a: Norse or Viking origin
Wheadon Group C: Haplogroup R1b U106: Germanic (Anglo-Saxon) origin
Wheaton Group B: Haplogroup R1b U152: Alpine Celtic (Either ancient Celts of Britain or from more recent Roman invasions.)
In the absence of Deep Clade testing I am not sure where Wheaton Group A or E will fall.
We have reached 28 MEMBERS!
Please see the DNA in Depth Discussion page for the latest Robert Wheaton cluster analysis.
Thomas Mallenby's Deep Clade results confirm the closeness of this match
With the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic I found this Wheadon connection.
If you haven't checked out our Wheaton Specific Resources Page lately I have added lots more place names and info on various Weetons, Wheatons etc.
We have a Facebook page! Please like us on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/WheatonWheadonWeedenWettonSurnames Good place to post info ask questions and meet up with other Wheaton researchers.
Happy Easter! We have a new Robert Wheaton match! Altogether there are now 12 results in the Group "B" Cluster. I will be updating our Results page soon for those of you keeping track. His results are under William Miel (Jim) Wheaton. He is a perfect match with Jerry, Glen and David J. at 37 markers. Aside from Glen (of which line we aren't sure) these represent 2 of Robert' sons: John and Benjamin. This does not meant that those with one mutation off at 37 markers can't be of either of these lines but just slightly less likely. However since the most common recent ancestor for all four is Robert and for Jim and Jerry is John 2 we know there have not been any mutations in three hundred years which is pretty amazing. So Glenn can take his choice John 2 or Benjamin 2!
We have some interesting results coming in shortly on a descendant of a Loyalist Wheaton from Canada and deep clade results from our matching Mallenby. We have also a couple of new Wheaton women descendants who can't participate in the Y-DNA but whose mtDNA or autosomal may match other eventually.
We started back in February of 2011---with 6 members that first month.
We now have reached 21 members at FTDNA! And we really are
international: Australia (2),
China, Canada, England (many), and in the US: Texas, Virginia, Michigan, California, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Kentucky and Massachusetts. We have identified 4 distinct Wheaton signatures with multiple members and a few others awaiting some company ;-) We have connected Many and yet one of our biggest mysteries continues: Where did Robert Wheaton of Salem and Rehoboth come from? I continue working on that conundrum.
Wheaton Group B is this home? Wheat fields in Weeton near Hull (Yorkshire, England).
We have nearly 30 Results from various sources and 20+ members in our Wheaton Group at FTDNA Not bad for a project started last February. Thanks to all for your participation and patience.
Back on 6/2/11 Update I posted "I've had word from David Wheaton of Devon that he had a nice visit with Ben and Gemma Wheaton of Australia! Glad to be doing our part to make the world a smaller place!" Well we now have proof these two gentleman are related. Thanks to Jean for this kindly chart:
Now Jean has asked could Joseph and Thomas be brothers? They both lived in Sidbury about 300 years ago so their father would have been born about 325 years ago (in this case 8 generations) FTDNA estimates their odds of being related within 8 generations as 15% but jumps to 50% in 12. I would guess they are brothers or cousins. There is another Wheaton (first name unknown) who is also a match but he remains private. If he is reading this please contact me!
BACK on 5/20/11 this (updates in red):
We have proved a couple of other brick walls are related to
Robert and we have begun to see some clustering which suggests which
branch of Robert's tree folks belong to. We have also discovered a
couple of unrelated folks suggesting NPE's. However as I caution
everyone don't be to quick to jump to conclusions. It could be that
Robert Wheaton was a scoundrel from England who changed his name from
that of his birthright. Until we have a match on the English side of the
puddle it is educated speculation.
So what to make of our Wheaton Group B (Robert Wheaton and relatives) ?
The following is a recap. I continue looking for clues to Robert's origin among our other matches. (Please see results page to see how closely related we are).
Mellanby (also spelled Mellanbie)(66/67 marker match)
Raines and Howell are in Devon same times and places as Wheatons. No Mellanbys so far however there are Raines in the same place as Mellanbys (Newcastle-upon the Tyne, Northumberland) So at least we have some plausible connections. Time will tell who came first and how they are related. But it is very likely they shared a common ancestor within the past 500-600 years and maybe much sooner.
Thomas Mallenby of England has 66/67 marker match with several of the Robert Wheaton cluster. Here's a example:
In comparing 67 results, the probability that Dr. Jerrold Levi Wheaton Jr. and Mr. Thomas Mallenby shared a common ancestor within the last...
So knowing that Robert Wheaton came in 1636 to America. There is either an NPE along the line of the Common ancestor, either his father or grandfather OR Thomas is descended from one of Roberts offspring who returned to England. Most of the testers are within 9-12 generations of Robert. So either all the Wheatons are Mallenby's or Thomas Mallenby is a Wheaton!
We have two new members with kits not yet logged in at the lab. Welcome aboard!
The latest SNP test keeps all the Robert Wheaton Cluster as shorthand L2+ (as all other terminal SNPs have come up negative) I have found one result for a Elliot in Devon with DYS 19=16. Why does this matter? Well R1b (R1b1a2a1a1b3c) has DYS19=16 at less than 1% frequency so any other DYS 19=16 are important and the fact that it is is in Devon helps to build my case that the Robert Wheaton cluster came from there.
Interesting article brought to my attention by Nancy and Jerry. Who Killed the Men of England
Link to Wheaton Cemetery Grave Photos in Swansea MA
Link to Burial Place Hill Cemetery Rehoboth, MA
In the 800 years Wheatons and 500 years for Wheadons have been living in Devon we can not know when and how many branches there might be. So until we either test more Wheatons with ties to Devon or get a match with others elsewhere we have an intriguing mystery on our hands.
There has been a bit of progress on the Haplogroup end---all of the suspected Devon Wheatons are part of Haplogroup R1b1a2 and the Wheaton / Wettons of Staffordshire are I12. These are the two most prevalent groups in Great Britain. With the recent discovery of more and more new SNP we may be getting close to connecting the ancient Haplogroups to what is referred to as genealogical time. (Close enough to bridge the gap where written records and surnames began).
Having become a bit of a DNA junkie my husband's DNA is part of on-going testing to refine the origins of the Haplogroup Wheatons. So we may get answers one way or the other! Here are his results and all of the Robert Wheaton Cluster would be identical:
L2+; and negative for the following SNPs: Z49- M228.2- L562- L20- L196-. According to the current classification, you have been assigned to:
And congratulations to Mike in Denver for adding a new Wheaton to the Tree!
New results for Glenn are in for 68-111 Markers. Still waiting for Michael's last panel of Markers 103-111. The somewhat surprising news is that of the 43 additional makers (31 of which we can now compare) only one additional mutation has surfaced. This is a bit of a surprise as 11 of the 43 are categorized as fast mutating markers. Currently 106/111 :
We will also be getting Lori (Lawrence)'s and David J.'s 111 markers soon.
Results are in for Willard and we have another new Wheaton line---again with no matches. His values are normal and he has 27 matches of various different surnames at 25 markers. However once you add the next 7 he has no matches at all. Here's the reason which is similar to the Robert Wheaton Line: Multiple unusual values:
26 DYS-460=11 74%
For those on my email list this is the same update I sent you. For any lurkers out there here's the latest news.
1) A True story. About a week ago, on a bit of a whim, I did a
Google search for Wheatons in Devon and located a business email for a
Wheaton there. I have previously found a couple of other Wheatons in
England that I have emailed to no avail but I keep trying--- In case you
haven't noticed, I'm not easily dissuaded from my mission ;-)
Red values are unusual for this Haplogroup
Wheaton Group B of Devon 14 24 16
11 12 Haplogroup R1b
Wheadon Group C of Devon13 24 14 12 11 Haplogroup R1b
Wheaton/Wetton of Staffordshire 13 23 15 10 12 Haplogroup I2a
Michael and Glenn have confirmed Haplogroups of R1b1a2a1a1b3c or shorthand R1b L-2. And everyone else is predicted R1b1a2a1a1b---so likely everyone is R1b L-2. This is just more confirmation of tight relationship ancient as well as recent. So even if the markers between the Wheaton and Wheadon were more mismatched the Haplogroup suggests a common ancestor 2,000-5,000 years ago. Sooner if the Wheadons test positive for L-2.
OH HAPPY DAY! 8 Wheatons all a perfect match at 25 markers! I love Science!!! Dave J.s next set of results are in!
This is a post I put up yesterday on DNA Forums and the reply about the rarity of the Wheaton Signature.
Q: I've been at this a short time but
immediately noticed that the values on the first 5 markers in my Wheaton
DNA Project (for Robert Wheaton descendants) didn't match anyone but
other Wheatons, but then I took a look at several big projects including
the Devon Project and the U-152 (both at FTDNA) and again no matches in
the first 5 values so I looked at the stats on values for R1b
A: Hello, the above values are rare indeed, however, the other markers are completely normal. It is usual that most people have some off-modal values. I would say that DYS 19=16 is the "strangest", all other occur here and there in the U152 project. Make sure you join the project. Relationship with non-Wheatons can be analyzed within the project, based on genetic distance calculations (especially on 67 markers) or off-modal matches. After you joined, we can try to do some calcs.
Big news day! Glenn, Lori and Michael (my husband) are related----perfect match at 12 markers. We are also related to Bonnie (Ralph) and Jerrold at 11/12 markers. Looking to be related via Robert Wheaton. Ralph and Jerrold each represent different sons of Robert and perhaps Glenn, Lori (Larry) and Michael are another son or another branch. We will know more as more results come in---and depending how close the match is with Glenn at 35 markers how closely we are likely to be related. This also means that Mary is related too as she traces back to Joseph of New Jersey.
Have a look at that Photo Gallery again, and see if you can tell who is related.
PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS (I'll leave this up indefinitely for a remembrance of where we started)
I have looked
at all the available Wheaton/Wheadon DNA results and have tentatively
clustered them into three groups but this is only preliminary. Some data
is posted but subject to verification. Current posting is tentative and only contains info from those who have given permission.
Of the 11 data sets four appear to be descendants of Robert Wheaton
or of his clan. Of those 4, two are identical perfect matches and the
other 2 are close matches. I'm still calling these of Robert (suspected)
of Devon for want of a better term.
Of the remaining 4, two are close matches and are of the Thomas Wheadon of Devon line.
The last 3 fall in between and are suspected to be of the Huntingdonshire and Cambridgeshire for now dubbed East England.