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This page is always a work in progress. The following is a expansion on comments I posted elsewhere, so by way of introduction:

"We know what we don’t know. It's in our bones, in our shared DNA. It's the call of the ancestors, of places and kin we are drawn to, whether we know the reason or not. Have you ever noticed how the places people settle are often similar to where they came from?—or why are you just 'at home' in some places and not others? Or some people just feel like you have known them forever although you just met. I do not believe that things are quite as random as we think……" (***see article at bottom of page, lest you think I am completely unscientific)

"Perhaps that's why genealogy appeals to me. It starts as just a bunch of tangles and loose ends....*You unravel a section, get stuck, then over to another and work on that for awhile* get stuck repeat from  first * endlessly. Occasionally you get a whole ball of yarn in which to make something with but those nagging tangles just pull you back in.....".

There are no rules with DNA. Some of our ancestors couldn't read so they didn't follow the instructions."

" If there is one thing we need it is a fundamental understanding of statistics and analysis. Combine that with Murphy's law and you get "whatever can happen, will happen and you can count on it not to happen when you expect it to."

"Our family trees are riddled with Riddles" from S99H99

And this from a wonderful Children's book called If These Stones Could Speak: Unlocking the Secrets of Stonehenge by Marc Aronson. National Geographic, Washington DC 2010 pg. 56:

"Really it is about putting aside what you think you know, what has been passed along, and being willing to trust what you yourself see and to test it rigorously."

"[Paul] Feyerabend believed that strict adherence to the scientific method would inhibit progress, and that a bit of anarchy is essential to good science.  Further, the usual criteria, e.g. consistency and falsification, are antithetical to progress." Anne Buchanan

"When you look in the mirror you see not just your face but a museum. Although your face, in one sense is your own, it is composed of a collage of features you have inherited from your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on. The lips and eyes that either bother or please you are not yours alone but are features of your ancestors, long dead individuals but still very much alive as fragments in you. Even complex qualities such as your sense of balance, musical abilities, shyness in crowds or susceptibility to sickness have been lived before. We carry the past around with us all the time, not just in our bodies. It lives also in our customs, including the way that we speak. The past is a set of invisible lenses we wear constantly, and through which we perceive the world and the world perceives us. We stand always on the shoulders of our ancestors, whether of not we look down to acknowledge them."   'The Horse, the Wheel and Language' by David Anthony.




Chromosome map of my Ancestors as of 4-2014 (click for larger image)



GEDMATCH M090434 & A385252
Maternal Haplogroup DNA U5a1b2 (16362)
Paternal Haplogroup (inferred) I2b1
ANCESTRY a4est42
23andme Kwheaton

My paternal lines have several ancestral groups
1. 1700's German's to PA then south to VA, NC, TN, AL then north to IA and NE
2. 1700's Ulster Scots (Scotland to Northern Ireland) to MD then OH, IL, NE
3. 1700's German's to MD then IL and NE
4. 1600's English to MA to NY, IL , NE
5. 1700's English and Ulster Scots to GA, AL, TX, MO and west
6.  Bits of Native American, African and perhaps Roma or Turkish 

My maternal line is broken down into four ancestral groups
1. 1800's Norwegian (Vinje & Seljord, Telemark) to IL & MN
2. 1800's Swedish (mainly Jonkoping and Kopparsburg Lans) to IL and MN
3. Late 1700's Possibly Hessian (German) and/ or Ireland to New Jersey, NY, MI
4  1600's English to MA to VT, NY, MI and west

My 6 generation Birthplace chart (Quite a colorful mix?)


I have now confirmed DNA connections with all 16 of my gg-grandparents or 100%.

When 2 names are shown it means I share a set of g-grandparents; 1 name is only the father or mother matches.
Total matches with "suggested" connections by company (most are proved, however at the 6-9the cousin level these tend to be unproven but likely)
23&me 18
ANCESTRY.com  256


X possibilities are italicized (if we share on Chr. 23 the X) Those in red are those for which I have CONFIRMED DNA matches at this level. Matches are shown at the level they occur.

2nd great-grandparents (Complete 6th generation) 3rd cousin level (+/-88% will share DNA w. me)

John Wesley WILLIAMSON MOSIER & Catherine Adeline STEWART Madison Co, AL & CT to Lee Co, IA to Dodge Co, NE 3 x's
James Lewis PADEN & Millicent Almena COATS  Bureau Co, IL 7 x's
Soloman Addison HENAGER & Mary A SPARKS Adair Co, KY 3x's
William Marsh FRANKLIN & Eliza Jane KIRK
John Soloman LUNDBERG & Anna OLSDOTTER Jonkoping, Sweden to Minneapolis, MN
Charles Gustavus VANSTRUM & Elizabeth OLSEN Sweden & Norway to Redwing and Minneapolis, MN
Elmer S. SHELDON & Rachel SMITH Kent Co, MI
Johnathan Blynn HALL & Sarah MERRITT Genesse Co, NY to Kent Co, MI

3rd great-grandparents (Complete 6th generation) 4th cousin level

John L. MOSER & Nancy WILLIAMSON Madison Co. AL to Lee Co, IA
Andrew STEWART & Sarah RUTAN CT to OH to Lee Co. IA
Alexander PADEN & Maria RAMSBURG Frederick Co. MD to Bureau Co., IL 4 x's
Daniel COATS & Mary ALLEN Otsego Co., NY to Colfax Co., NE
Soloman HENAGER & Rachel Selina SPARKS NC to Adair Co. KY 6 x's
John SPARKS & Nancy BARNES  NC to KY 7x's

Josiah FRANKLIN & Harriot PARK Tuscaloosa Co, AL, & SC to Red River Co, TX 12 x's
John KIRK and Sallie WOOD NC to TX 3 x's
Johan Peter LUNDBERG and Anna Catarina Jacobsdotter  Jonkoping, Sweden > Minneapolis, MN 2 x's
Olof Nilsson and Kersten Persdotter Jonkoping, Sweden to Minneapolis, MN
Gustavus Bengtsson and Maria Catherina HAKBERG  Hakarp, Jonkoping, Sweden to MN
Olsson and Gundvor Giselsdotter Vinje, Telemark, Norway

SHELDON and Elizabeth CORBIN Dutchess Co, NY
SMITH & Rachel BACON MA to NH to NY
Elisha HALL and Sallie THOMPSON  VT to NY to MI
MERRITT and Margaret GEARY (mtDNA) NJ to Wyoming & Genesee Co, NY

Some of my known 4th great-grandparents  7th generation 5th cousin level  (+/-40% will share DNA)

Nicholas MOSER & Elizabeth LOY PA to NC 8X's
Robert WILLIAMSON & Elizabeth ? (SC? to AL)
Daniel Bertine STEWART & Ruth A. FULFORD (CT) 4xs
Daniel RUTAN & Mary HAZEL (MD to OH)
John PADEN & Tabitha ? Londonderry, Ireland to Frederick Co, MD  
Christian RAMSBURG & Mary SNOOK Frederick Co, MD
Rufus COATS & Mercy ROSE (CT to IN) 3 x's
Ira ALLEN & Hannah WATERS (Ira, VT to Jefferson Co., NY)
Conrad HENAGER & Christina BOLTENHAMMER (PA to NC to KY)
Josiah SPARKS & Susannah PHILLIPS (MD to KY)
William SPARKS & Mary WRIGHT (MD to KY) 6xs
William BARNES & Elizabeth MARSHALL (VA to KY) 6xs
Thomas FRANKLIN & Nancy ?? perhaps BASS (England to GA to AL) 3 x's
? PARK & Catherine ? SC
John KIRK & Sarah STEELE Ireland to NC 5xs
William KENDRICK & Sarah JONES
Justus SHELDON & Sylvia SHERMAN RI to Dutchess Co, NY
Samuel CORBIN & Perhaps Allen? NY
Asa BACON & Pamela WAITE MA to CT to NY
Peter HALL & Mandana CLARK CT to VT 4 x's
William THOMPSON ? & Sarah MA
Sven TAPPER & Lena Larsdotter Vrigstad, Jonkoping, Sweden
Peter Hakberg Johanssen & Maria Katharina Petersdotter, Hakarp, Jonkoping, Sweden
"Store" Ole LODVORSON & Asloug ELIEFSDOTTER Vinje, Telemark, Norway
Gisle EGILSON Habbarskvammen Drotning & Asloug RUEFSDOTTER Rui Seljord, Telemark, Norway

Some of my 5th great grandparents 8th generation 6th cousin level

Frederick MOSER & Maria Barbara LIESER Germany to PA  14x's                                                                    
George LOY and Mary Elizabeth TILLMAN Germany to PA
Daniel STEWART & Phoebe Lee CHAPMAN  Colonial CT
Titus FULFORD & Susannah ARNOLD
John RUTAN & Catherine JONES
France to NJ & NY
Henry Clayton HAZEL & Sarah JOHNSON
Philip RAMSBURG & Susannah DEVILBISS Germany to Fredrick Co, MD
Peter SNOOK & Maria GOSS Germany to MD
William COATES & Zipporah PALMER  CT to NY 2xs                                                                             
Peter ROSE & Mary Sarah GATES CT 2 x's
Benjamin ALLEN & Amy WOOD
Conrad HENNIGER & Anna Catherina KUNTZ (Koontz)?? 2 x's
Matthew SPARKS & Elinor  5 x's
Soloman WRIGHT & Mary TIDMARSH 3xs
John BARNES & Rebecca HAWKINS 
Michael HAWKINS & Agnes EATON
Alexander MASRHALL & Elizabeth WORSHAM 5xs
Robert STEELE & ?
William WOOD & Martha KENDRICK 3 x's
Issac SHELDON & Deborah HAIGHT Colonial
Obadiah COOPER & Cornelia GARNDEIER Colonial
Benjamin SHERMAN & Deborah DELANO Colonial
Ephraim BACON & Sarah FAIRBANKS Colonial
Seth WAITE & Submit SMITH Colonial
James HALL & Mary LAMB Colonial
Elisha CLARK & Sarah SMITH Colonial

Some of my 6th great grandparents 9th generation 7th cousin level (+/-12% will share)

Johan Martin MOSER & Margaretha SCHWENBAUER Bavaria, Germany to PA 5 xs
Benedict LIESER & Barbara ISCH Germany to PA
Martin LOY & Catherine FAUST? PA to NC
John TILLMAN (TILGHAM) & Eva DRYDEN Somerset, MD to OH
Alexander STEWART & Margaret ROBINSON Antrim, Ireland to CT 2xs
David CHAPMAN & Abigail LEE East Haddam, CT
Gershom FULFORD & Abigail WELTON Waterbury, CT
John ARNOLD & Lucy WADSWORTH Hartford, CT
Peter RUTAN & Sarah THOMPSON France & Scotland to NJ 3x's
Power HAZEL & ? NJ to VA
Abraham JOHNSON & Rachel OKNEY NJ to VA 2 x's
Stephen REMSBURGH & Anna BRUNNER Germany to MD 6x's
Casper DEVILBISS & Anna Barbara COCIL? Germany to MD 3x's
John SNOOK & Elsie ROCKFELLER New Jersey
William COATS & Antrase GRAY Stonington, CT 2 x's
Dr. Joseph PALMER & Zipporah BILLINGS Stonington, CT
Peter ROSE & Elizabeth FISH Preston & Stonington, CT
Issac GATES & Deborah PARTRIDGE CT 2 x's
Barnabas ALLEN & Amey CAMP Rehoboth, MA
Nathan WOOD & Rhobe MASON Swansea MA to Berkshire Co, MA
Hans Johann Michael HENNINGER & Anna Maria PARY 2 x's
Thomas SPARKS & Elizabeth ? MD 2 x's
Alexander MARSHALL & Elizabeth WORSHAM 2 x's
Soloman WRIGHT & Mary TIDMARSH MD 3xs ?? about this line
Nicholas KUTZ & Anna Catherina GRIMM Swiss to PA
Penuel WOOD & Marty SMITHSON VA to NC
William KENDRICK & Sarah JONES VA to NC 5xs
Edward JONES & Abigail SUGARS
Haga Nils Olsson & Anna Jonsdotter Sweden
Thomas SHELDON & Harriet WINTERS RI to Dutchess Co., NY 2 x's
Obadiah COOPER & Cornelia GARDENIER 
Joshua HAIGHT & Charity KIPP Dutchess Co., NY
Jabez SHERMAN & Jedidah HAWES Dartmouth, MA
Thomas DELANO & Jane PECKHAM Dartmouth, MA
Thomas CORBIN & Sarah EASTMAN CT & MA to Dutchess Co., NY 2 xs
Ephraim BACON & Elizabeth GRIGGS MA
Samuel FAIRBANKS & Susannah WATSON MA 2 x's
James HALL & Mehitable WOOD Barnstaple, MA
Thomas LAMB & Sarah J. BECKWITH 2xs
Daniel CLARK & Elizabeth WHITMORE Middletown, CT 2x's
Ebenezer SMITH & Mary ? Wethersfield and Haddam, CT
William WOOD & Elizabeth VEAL Essex, MA 2 x's

Some of my 7th to 8th Great-grandparents 10-12 generations 8th-9th cousin level (+/-5% will share)

Alexannder MARSHALL & Elizabeth WORSHAM 3 xs
Hans Adam MOSER & Maria STROBEL Bavaria, Germany
Nicolas KUTZ and Anna Catharina GRIMM 2 x's
Joseph BRUNNER & Catherine Elizabeth THOMAS Schifferstadt, Rhineland, Bavaria, German 5 xs
Francis Marion SMITHSON & Sarah Edward Burley CHILES?
William COATES & Hannah BILL
Philip BILL & Hannah WAITE
Johan Peter LOY (LEYE) & Anna Maria FETCHER Germany
Edward JONES & Abigail SUGARS VA to NC 3 x's
Lt. Jabez CORBIN & Mary MORSE MAto CT 2 x's
Alexander STEWART & Margaret DIXON Antrim Ireland > CT 3xs
Roger EASTMAN & Sarah SMITH 2 xs
Samuel LAMB & Rebecca BIRD
Robert CHAPMAN & Mary STEVENS 2xs
John WOOD & Bethaiah MASON
John WOOD & Isabel HAZEN 2xs
Thomas SPARKS & Elizabeth
George PALMER & Hannah PALMER 3 x's Stonington, CT
Stonington, CT
Jonathan DELANO & Jane PECKHAM
Jonathan DELANO & Mercy WARREN 2x's
Stephen GATES & Jemina BENJAMIN 3 x's
Isaac SHELDON & Susanah POTTER 2 x's
Jabez SHERMAN & Jedidiah HAWES
James BILLINGS and Mary HEWITT 2 x's
Edward GRAY and Elizabeth PABODIE
Moses HAIGHT & Elizabeth SHUTE
Simeon HAIGHT & Susannah SMITH
Thomas WOOD & Ann HUNT 3 x's
John HAWES & Desire GORHAM
Daniel BACON & Mary REED
William VEAL & Catherine HEIST

Edward HAZEN & Hannah GRANT
William HALL & Esther MATTHEWS 2x's
Sgt. John WAITE & Mary BELDEN 3x's
Mary CLARK 3xs
John CLARK & Elizabeth WHITE
Johann Peter
ROCKFELLER & Elizabthe Christina RUNKEL 5x's
Francis SMITHSON & Sarah CHILES?
Michael HAWKINS & Agnes EATON 2 x's

Father's father's  line Mosier & Paden (German & colonial) 1st cousin (ANC) 2nd cousin (ANC & 23andme)
Mother's paternal surname line Lundberg & Olsdotter (Sweden MN) 3rd Cousin 1R & 2- 1st cousin (ANC & FTDNA)
Father's mother's line Henager & Franklin (German-Southern US) 2nd Cousin  (23&me)
Father's father's mothers line Paden & Coats (British Colonial) 2nd cousin 1R, 3rd cousin (ANC)
Father's mother's mother's line Franklin Park (English-Southern Colonial US) 3rd cousin & 4th cousin 1R  (FTDNA)
Father's mother's line Henager & Sparks (German-Southern US) 3rd cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's mother's father's line Sparks (English-Southern Colonial US) 3rd cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's father's father's line Moser & Stewart (German-Scottish Colonial US) 3rd cousin (ANC)
Father's father's father's line Stewart & Rutan (Scottish-French Colonial US) 3rd 1R, 4th cousin (ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Sheldon & Corbin (English-New England Colonial US) 4th cousin (ANC)
Father's father's mother's line Paden & Remsburg (Scottish-German) 4th cousin (ANC)
Father's mother's father's line Sparks & Wright (English-Southern Colonial US) 4th cousin  & 4th cousin 1R,  2 5th cousin 1R, 7 cousin (ANC), 5th cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's mother's mother's line Sparks & Barnes (English-Southern Colonial US) 4th cousin (ANC), 4th cousin 1R (23&me), 4th cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's mother's line Henager & Boltenhammer (German-Southern US) 5th Cousin  (FTDNA)
Father's mother's mother's line Barnes & Marshall (English-Southern Colonial US) 4th cousin 1R (23&me), 5th cousin 2R (ANC), 5th cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's father's mother's line Remsburg (German-MD) 4th cousin 1R (ANC), 4th cousin 2R (ANC)
Father's mother's father's line Sparks & Phillips (English-Southern Colonial US) 5th cousin
Father's mother's mother's line Kirk & Steele (English-Southern Colonial US) 5th cousin (23&me), 5th cousin (FTDNA)
Father's father's mothers line Coates & Rose (British Colonial) 5th cousin ( 2 x's ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Bacon & Griggs (English-New England Colonial US) 5th cousin 1R (ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Hall & Clark (English-New England Colonial US) 5th cousin  (23andMe) 5th cousin 1R (ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Waite & Belden (English-New England Colonial US) 5th cousin & 6th 1R cousin (FTDNA)
Father's father's father's line Moser & Loy (German- Southern Colonial US) 5th cousin 3R (ANC)
Father's father's father's line Moser & Lieser (German- Southern Colonial US) 3xs 5th cousin 1R (ANC & FTDNA) 6th cousin 1R (ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Rose & Gates (English-New England Colonial US) 6th cousin (23andME & ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Waite & Hastings (English-New England Colonial US) 6th cousin 1R (ANC)
Mother's mother's father's line Allen & Camp (English-New England Colonial US) 6th cousin 1R (ANC)
Father's father's father's line Rutan & Thompson (French? & Scottish) 6th cousin 1R & 7 cousin (ANC)
Father's father's mother's line Marshall & Worsham (English Southern Colonial) 2xs 6th  cousin 2R (ANC & FTDNA)
Father's father's mother's line Barnes & Hawkins (English Southern Colonial)  6th cousin 1R (ANC)


Best Rough guestimate based on my family tree

50% English/Scottish (via Ireland)
25% Swedish/Norwegian
18% German/Austrian/Swiss/French
  7% Mixed (Dutch/African/Native American/Roma/Portuguese/Turkish?)

Africa < 1%
Africa Southcentral Hunter Gatherers <1%
Europe 97%
Great Britain 47%
Scandinavia 33%
Finnish/Northern Russia 5%

Ireland 4%
Europe West 3%
Iberian Peninsula 3%
Italy/Greece 1%

European Jewish < 1%
West Asia 2%

23andme New Ancestry Composition (speculative mode) This comes closest to my family tree
      99.3% EUROPEAN:
      35.7% British & Irish
      23.1% Scandinavian
        6.7% French & German
      28.0% Nonspecific Northern European

        2.2% Balkan
.7 Iberian
1.6 Non-specific Southern European
            .6% West African
       .1 Native American
95.61% Western European (shows British Isles)
4.39% South Asia (shows India)

New FTDNA MyOrigins (percentages under 1% are not shown)
    53% European Coastal Isles (shows British Isles)
    40% European Northlands (shows Scandinavian)
    5% Eurasian Heartland (shows Afghanistan)
    2% Anatolia & Caucasus (shows Turkey)

And here's a comparison with World9 DODECAD
0.27% Amerindian
0.50% East_Asian (this would also suggest Native American)
0.87% African
72.79% Atlantic_Baltic
0.75% Australasian (Oceania)
0.01% Siberian (this would also suggest Native American)
13.60% Caucasus_Gedrosia
10.40% Southern (European/Mediterranean)
0.83% South_Asian

This is a map of the latest Ancestry Beta Ethnicity Estimate , followed by DNALand.com

This is my Chromosome painting from 23 showing the .1 Native American on the beginning of Chr 20 and the large African Segments on Chr 8 & 10

How many Ancestors have I found? (Only counting ancestors with Full names)




2) Parents



3) Grandparents



4) Great Grandparents



5) 2nd Great Grandparents



6) 3rd Great Grandparents


32    100%

7) 4th Great Grandparents


52     81%

8) 5th Great Grandparents


88     68%

9) 6th Great Grandparents


131   51%

10) 7th Great Grandparents


195  38%



528   51% overall

I posted this on the Organized Genealogist FACEBOOK page. It had the most likes if anything I have posted anywhere and the most requests to quote it so I am posting here until it finds a place of its own.

This is for NEW GENEALOGISTS or those looking to revamp their systems. First I aplogize for sounding like a broken record. I have nearly 45 years of experience so I have seen/done it all. Most of the systems for organizing are just fine when you start out or even ten years in but somewhere along the line the color coded, numeric, alpha numeric, file folders, binders etc is going to break down.

You may be able to remember 200 ancestors and where they fit into your tree but you aren't going to remember 10,000. Computerized programs are nice for that. When most of us start doing genealogy we may not have a well thought out GOAL and so the plan to achieve it leads to a breakdown in organizing. As we get older our goals change. We no longer are worried about filling in every blank and shift as I have to telling stories. Perhaps individual 9457 means something to you or FT436. Great. But ask yourself what is this going to mean to your children, grandchildren etc. If they are going to look at all your hard work and either not be able to make sense of it or worse yet not care....then what you have done is fascinating and it may be beautifully arranged but if it isn't retained or read--- well it was just a nice past time.

What is most compelling about genealogy is the STORIES. Not names and dates but a ticket stub from the World's fair where grandma met grandpa. Its letters, diaries, photos, its knowing that great grandma married at 14 and searching to find out why. If you start NOW to organize with the idea of telling these stories I guarantee not only will you be happier, more organized and your research more focused---but so will those that come after you.

You can use any system you want but please think about the stories. Perhaps you have a binder or binders that are organized by surnames, or Irish immigrants or Revolutionary war Veterans. Just make sure to put all the information on any individual or family together. That means everything, not photos here, census there, birth certificates in that folder.

Think of it this way.....do you want to be scattered across files, boxes, cabinets? A bunch of vertebrae in that box and hip bones on the other shelf? If a forensic scientist was trying to reconstruct your skelton would they not lay out all your bones, put them into order and then if they were trying to reconstruct your life and what you looked like they would slowly add meat to the bones.

Your job: should you choose to accept it, is to resurrect the people that made your life possible. Choose the ones that call to you and start assembling them now. You will be happier and all those that come after you as well. Trust me on this. Organize to tell stories, do not tell stories of how wonderfully you organize!" Kelly Wheaton

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