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 Using what I learned from Carl Munck's videos,The Code and that all ancient sites speak to us mathematically, I decided to apply it to Atlantis.
If you draw the city of Atlantis, it is composed of 6 rings plus the outer seawall ring makes 7 rings.
According to Carl Munck, these rings should decode for us the co-ordinates of Atlantis.
A circle is comprised of 360 degrees, plus the ancients understand pi, therefore we use 7 x pi in our formula.
Two times the radius of a circle gives us the diameter, thus the use of the number 2.
Carl mentioned that after we divide 360 by the amount of circles times pi, we have to give it back, thus multiply by 360.
I took it a step further and multiplied by the 7 rings, then by 2 for the latitude.
And Presto, the magic co-ordinates speak to us from the ancient Atlanteans that points right to my Josephine Seamount location!
360 / [7 x 3.14159] = 16.370236 x 360 = 5893.28496 x 7 = 41,252.99472 x 2 = 82,505.989 = Latitude
360 / [7 x 3.14159] = 16.370236 x 360 = 5893.28496 x 2 = 11,786.56992 = Longitude
7 x 3.14159 = 21.99113
Paulo Riven's Josephine seamount Atlantis;
Latitude 36-51-45 north = 82,620 (36 x 51 x 45)
Longitude 14-26-32 west = 11,648  (14 x 26 x 32)
The Great Pyramid of Giza encodes the latitude of Josephine Seamount Atlantis!
4 x 90 degree corners = 360
38 degrees inner angle at capstone
51.51 degree slope
360 x 51.51 = 18,543.60 / 38 = 487.989 = pyramid height w capstone.
5 points on the pyramid = 5 x pi.
4 x 90 degree corners = 360 (a circle hidden by a square)
5 x 3.14159 = 15.70795
360 / 15.70795 = 22.91833116 x 360 = 8250.599 x 5 = 41,252.995 x 2 = 82,505.99
Josephine Latitude = 36 degrees x 51 minutes x 45 seconds North = 82,620
The City of Atlantis and the concentric circular walled fortress as told in Critias by Plato.
Click on pictures for a larger and  more detailed view

 Here is a map by Ioannes Hugonius A. Linfehofen ca.1595.aD detailing the city of Angra do Heroismo (Cove of the  Heroes), on the southern side of the island of Terceira, Azores.  I was born on the north eastern side of Terceira in Praia da Victoria (Victory Beach).

This map details almost exactly to Critias' description of the plain on the island of Atlantis, albeit the concentric Royal City. The plain was portioned into 60,000 lots and was surrounded by mountains on the south,west and northern sides and open south easterly towards the region of Gades, Spain that matches this map as an excellent visual comparison for us to the Atlantean plain.

From Plato's Critias dialogue;

[quote]Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side.

The whole country was said by him to be very lofty and precipitous on the side of the sea, but the country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even, and of an oblong shape, extending in one direction three thousand stadia, but across the centre inland it was two thousand stadia. This part of the island looked towards the south, and was sheltered from the north. The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist, having in them also many wealthy villages of country folk, and rivers, and lakes, and meadows supplying food enough for every animal, wild or tame, and much wood of various sorts, abundant for each and every kind of work.

As to the population, each of the lots in the plain had to find a leader for the men who were fit for military service, and the size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way, and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand. [/quote]

Azores Atlantis I - Atlantic Ocean -150,000,000 - 3253.bC.
Around 450 million years ago, in a time geologists call the unified Continents of Earth, Gondawanaland, the Atlantic sea was first forming at the central point or middle Earth up to around 150 million years ago when the Atlantic Ocean would be the result as the Continents drifted apart leaving behind the central sub-Continental Island known as Atlantis, some 2000 x 1000 miles in area around 135 to 150 million years ago. 
 The Large island of Atlantis before The Straites of Gibraltar. This image would detail a size of around 2000x1000 miles in area. Note also that the straite extending into the Atlantic forms an immense natural Canal in antiquity. The British isles would have still been a part of Europe and not islands and a landbridge is formed connecting iceland with Greenland and Europe. The largest landmass visible on the island is the Azores plateau which is why I call it Azores Atlantis I. The Royal City is situated at the Josephine, Torre Seamount otherwise known as the Madeira rise. It is around 1000 miles long and around 300 miles before the Straites of Gibraltar.
My Atlantis Royal City location 475 miles before the Straites of Gibraltar. Cleito's Hill, Visible Wall and Circular Arc  can be seen in this Google Earth image.

Further evidence for my Josephine Atlantis Royal City Location.



Quoted and typed by Paulo Riven from Frank Joseph; Atlantis and other lost worlds.


The Horse-Shoe Seamounts; article page 10/11.


As early as the first sonar investigation of the Atlantic Ocean in 1949, indications of a lost civilization came to light. Some 418 kilometers due west from the Straits of Gibraltar, Dr Maurice Ewing, aboard the National Geographic research vessel Glomar Challenger, found a formation on the ocean floor since referred to as the Horseshoe Seamounts, comprising a large island ringed by a range of high mountains. The Columbia University geology professor determined that its highest peak, dubbed Mt Ampere, was a volcano that collapsed beneath the sea within the past 12,000 years.


So too, the fourth century bC philosopher Plato characterized Atlantis as a large island beyond the Gibraltar and surrounded by a great ring of mountains over-whelmed by a natural catastrophe 11,500 years ago. Core samples taken from the ocean floor more than 3 kilometers deep, came up with prodigious amounts of beach sand. Physical evidence for a former shoreline that once had been subject to untold centuries of wave action at sea level. This was proof that the deep ocean landmass had at one time in the recent geological past been dry territory above sea level and for a very long time.


Moreover, the estimated dimensions of the Horseshoe Seamounts -515 kilometers from west to east by 310 kilometers from north to south -loosely compliment the dimensions Plato gives us in the Kritias for the island of Atlantis 588 kilometers from west to east by 365 kilometers from north to south. Both sets of measurements are of course approximate, leaving room for a compromised medium that suggests commonality.


(Riven note; Frank Joseph makes the error of reducing the numbers by a factor of 10 as also noted by his comment of the plain. Whereas the Horseshoe Abyssal Mountains would have been surrounding the plain and central on the eastern side of Atlantis Island being some 2000 x 1000 miles in area. Thus his numbers for the island would actually be only the plain. )


Less than ten years after Dr Ewing's first discovery of Mt Ampere, Stockholm's Riks museum launched a Swedish deep-sea expedition under the command of Dr Rene Malais, aboard the research vessel Albatross. From the ocean floor about 2 kilometers beneath the surface of the Atlantic, the scientists brought aboard fossilized remains of several thousand diatoms, small algae that flourished over the past 12,000 years. Dr Malaise's palaeo-biologist colleague R.W.Kolbe went on to catalogue more than 60 freshwater diatom species at 1 kilometer depths and deeper across the mid-Atlantic. Such an unexpected abundance of retrieved algae plants proved that they once grew in far spreading freshwater lakes on what could only have been a former stretch of dry land territory located in the vastness of today's open sea.


Kolbe's conclusion was supported by additional evidence uncovered in 1963 by an oceanographer for the Soviet Academy of Sciences. While investigating an area of the Horseshoe Seamounts from the Mikhail Lomonsov's deck, Dr Maria Klinova's robotic devices scooped up several unusual rocks from the sea floor. Laboratory testing showed that the specimens had not been formed at the 1.6-kilometer depths where they were found, but on dry land about 10,000 years ago.


Revelations such as these have convinced marine scientists that a large mountainous land mass somewhat smaller in area than Portugal (about 90,000 square kilometers) did in fact occupy the mid-Atlantic Ocean with the past 10,000 years.


(Riven note as per above note, Atlantis Island was in fact larger than Portugal and Spain)


The Mount Ampere Discoveries; page 13.


Although the base of Mt Ampere plummets more than 3,000 meters, it's plateau like summit is a mere 65 meters beneath the surface of the Ocean. It was here according to the Znanie-Sila article, that Russian Scientists found most of the man made features. These included a wall 75 centimeters wide, 1.5 meters high and slightly longer in length. Other masonry consisted of five broad steps ascending to an expansive platform connected to another monumental staircase. If, as Dr Barinova speculated, all the visually documented structures protruded through a layer of silt perhaps 30 or more meters thick, Marakuev's photographic evidence revealed only a fraction of their uppermost portions. Several return voyages to Mt Amperes under taken by the Academician Petrovsky throughout the 1980's reconfirmed and even expanded the underwater discoveries. They were greeted with cautious interest in the West, where suspicion of all things Soviet ran high until the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of the decade. Since then, post Communist Russia has lacked the financial where-with all to renew its investigation of man made structures in the near Atlantic, while Western archaeologists are skeptical of claims by Dr Barinova and his colleagues, who are still reluctant to share everything they found at the Horseshoe Seamounts.


In his Znanie-Sila article, Barinova cited the immense mantle of silt that lies over the ruins like an obscuring cloak, concealing virtually every trace of physical evidence. It is this constant deposition, which has gradually but continuously descended over the ruins, not for centuries, but for millennia, making their detection difficult in the extreme. To locate and reveal them, modern research instruments would need to make kilometers of ocean transparent and probe through amounts of sedimentary silt sufficient to hide a building or even a city.


(Riven note; this Znanie Sila article is probably the same one reported in the New York Times in May 21,1979 with the expedition of Professor Aksyonov of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Marakuev being the same photographer. The Soviet discoveries at the Ampere Seamount, unpublicized for several years, received worldwide publicity in 1979 through an interview with Professor Andrei Aksyonov, deputy director of the Soviet Academy of Science's Institute of Oceanography.  The interview took place in Moscow and was published in THE NEW YORK TIMES on May 21, 1979.


Professor Aksyonov, while guarding a seemingly neutrality on Atlantean identification of the ruins, further stated, "I believe that the objects in the pictures once stood on the surface."


In a later AP release from Moscow in April 1979, Alexander Nesterenko, director of the Fleet Department of the Institute of Oceanography, confirmed the report, that a research ship had taken photographs of "what might be ruins", but denied reports that another Soviet research ship, the VITYAZ, was investigating the same site, stating that the VITYAZ was "engaged in other business."


From the Times Magazine Archive website;

Soviet Scientist Says Ocean Site May Be Atlantis; An Offer of Directions 'Typical Wall From Antiquity' Cites Lisbon Earthquake

By CRAIG R. WHITNEY Special to The New York Times.

May 21, 1979, Monday

Page A14, 793 words


MOSCOW, May 20 -- Plato, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and all you science fiction writers, who have puzzled over the riddle of the lost continent of Atlantis, move over for Prof. Andrei Arkadyevich Aksyonov.




It's a pay per view article. ($3.95 American)



[quote] Page 30: Prominent Metaphysician A.N.Whitehead; “The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato. It is impossible to imagine a more credible source for Atlantis as fact”. [/quote]


[quote] Page 30 “Plato did not invent Atlantis as a utopian fantasy. Rather, close scrutiny of his account reveals that he cited Atlantis as an historical example to illustrate cycles in the rise and fall of civilizations.”[/quote]


[quote] Page 31 “The information presented by the Timaeus is entirely credible, with many details verified and supported by geology and the traditions of dozens of disparate cultures in the circum-Atlantic region.”[/quote]


The highly intelligent Jesuit Priest Athanasius Kircher (1602-1680) and master of all sciences and the founding father of scientific Egyptology, stated;


[quote] “ I confess for a long time I had regarded all this as pure fables to the day when, better instructed in Oriental languages, I judged that all these legends must be after all, only the development of a great truth.”[/quote]


Athanasius also had access to the Vatican Archives where it was that he found the proof that Atlantis was a fact. He found a leather bound map of Atlantis that was brought to Italy from Egypt in the first century aD. Prior to Athanasius, Plato’s story of Atlantis was condemned as pagan fiction until reconsidered by Athanasius. He published it in his Mundus Subterraneus in 1665.aD. Most likely the map of Atlantis Island having come from the Library of Alexandria prior to 392.aD. (Riven note; this map is almost identical to my map that I drew in 2003 before discovering Athanasius Kircher)


Swedish Medical Pioneer, archaeologist and botanist, Olaus Rudbeck who was fluent in Greek, Latin and Hebrew, concluded after a long research ca.1651-1698 that Atlantis was a fact and not fiction.

Later it was discovered that Scandinavia’s Bronze Age settlement dated around 2200.bC as Olaus claimed the Atlanteans settled there around 2400.bC.


Chapter 7 Frank Joseph also agrees that Egypt was an Atlantean settlement as I do and have proven.


Page 165 [quote] “ The million dollar plus that Robert Sarmast spent on his two expeditions around Cyprus might have been better put to use at the Horseshoe Seamounts.”[/quote]


[quote] “Soviet Scientists aboard the Academician Petrovsky may have found archaeological traces of Atlantis in March 1974 that match Plato’s description. Unlike any other site on earth, the HorseShoe Seamounts fit the basic criteria for Atlantis set out in Plato’s two dialogues.”[/quote]


[quote] The bones of numerous elephants have been dredged up from the area, beach sand and algae have also been retrieved, proving that this region of the ocean was dry land in the recent geological past.[/quote]



Paulo Riven

Tribes of Atlantis.

Wednesday, August 04, 2010


 Athanasius Kircher map of Atlantis ca.1650.aD.


In truth,the best way to achieve success for our search for Atlantis is to accept Plato for his atonement of antiquity and to take literally his words as written, rather than to alter his works for our suppositions of self intellect and fanciful locations for Atlantis other than what Plato immortalized. For if we denounce the veritable testimony of sworn truth by all those great Greek philosophers, an Egyptian king and Priests in the Legend of Atlantis, who maintained with fervor their histories as being true, then we would have to denounce all of their works and settle for an ill realization. Being that all the philosophers and great scholars of yesterday were nothing more than fabricated ideologies of secret societies to mold the minds of our youth with hidden ethnics for their own personal gain of control over us and that no such philosophers like Socrates, Plato, Zeno, Herodotus, etc ever existed but were mere contraptions of imagination by clever writers of secret societies. Such as our histories and truths were also hidden and suppressed due to the diseased theosophical mind of falling libraries built out of biblical mortar and a wall with 3000.bC written upon it that no man should pass into the Garden of Adam and Eve and the great lie of a selfish nation favored by a vain and destructive lord named yahoweh.

Ja Mn is God and ALL nations are favored by Him to reflect His Aeternal Spirit of Love and Compassion as He was also preserved by Egypt as Min or Amen, thus we say Amen after our prayers without realizing it's "hidden" meaning of truth.

Whereas if we say that Atlantis doesn't exist and those authors all swore to truth, then we would have to say that they didn't exist either for a lie has no spirit to continue eternaly, let alone 2500 years for our Atlantis legend or 2000 years like their fabricated lord yahoweh and altered Bible of which they survive because of Spirit.

In many respects, the Josephine Torre Seamount mirrors quite sufficiently to Plato's preservation of Atlantis in the Timaeus and Critias dialogues.

Not only for it's geographical location being precisely before the Straite of Gibraltar or for it's topographical features to Atlantis and it's SeaWall, but also for it's geological properties that include a formidable explanation for the reason of the island of Atlantis having been sunken by an earthquake in a single day and night as written by Plato.

A devastation on such a scale that flooded the entire mediterranean and was identified as the greatest deluge of all to Solon and the Egyptian Priest that was the third before the flood of Deukalion or prior to 1529.bC. A devastation that embedded the words upon the lips of ancient tribes relating the world flood legends to echo for millenias of cultural generations. A devastation that flooded the Black and Red Seas and even poured into the plains of mesopotamia to send Utnaphishtim afloat on an ark to a new frontier of human preservation for the Sumerians and Babylonians.

The Josephine Torre Seamount, also known as the Madeira rise, stretches some 1000 miles nne by ssw and some 300 miles in width as it sits 5000m below on the Great Abyssal Plain that continuously receives the undertow of the Gibraltar Straites as mother nature's broom smoothing and cleaning her ocean floor.

Generaly, the Josephine Seamount is thought to be around 90 myo with her volcanic activities ending some 6 to 9 mya upon a major hotspot of the murkey bottom.

The Seamount is mainly comprised of basaltic (lava) and limestone rock with sounding tests revealing a harder material under her marine coat of silt,plankton,coral and geothermal productivity. Basalt is found in 90 per cent of rocks on Earth. The Josephine peaks can be reached some 140m below the Ocean surface that would have been above water in antiquity while her Ormonde and Amperes family seamounts are some 40 - 60m below the ocean surface.

As you can see in the pictures below, a vibrant ecosystem capable of sustaining life would clearly have thrived long ago, just like the Azores was much larger and the celtic shelf around England and Ireland teemed with ancestors of the Tuatha De Danaan and Leif Erikson or the Keltoi of Iberia as early Atlanteans.

The reason for the destruction of Atlantis and the great earthquake reported is clearly because of the Eurasian and African plates that form the Azores Gibraltar Fault Line that runs right through the Josephine, Ormonde banks. Nnw of Josephine and Nne of Azores we see a monolithic transform fracture that would easily engulf the Azores Islands had it been there and evidence of a "great rip" in the Ocean floor from the Eurasian plate conquering the African plate like the Greek Hercules battling the Libyan giant Antaeus.The Azores Gibraltar fault line is a highly volatile section that includes frequent earthquakes and one of the largest Volcanic regions of the Atlantic along with the area of Cape Verde Islands.

Combine the fault line of the enormous plates, the huge transform fracture, the mid atlantic ridge spreading on the west side and the intense thermal conductivity that would also produce methane gases that drop airplanes out of skies and we can see how accurate Plato's words reflect the destruction of Atlantis and a veritable reason for it's location before the Straites of Gibraltar.

Then again, who's to say that a large chunk of Atlantis island didn't gracefully fall to the Ocean floor and became what we termed a seamount?
-two Pyramids, one toppled
-Rosetau Oval rectangualar Canal
-precisely as described by the field measurements of the Egyptian Am-Duat
-Rosetau was mirrored in Saqqara Egypt by the Great and Red Pyramids and twin lion shpinxes

- hill surrounded by concentric circles

- seawall some 10 miles from the eastern arc surrounding the hill

- another arc below and in front of the eastern arc

- concentric arcs viewable behind the hill on the west side

- 500 miles before the straites of gibraltar

- evidence of earthquakes, volcanos and a great disaster zone

- able to have disappeared in a single night and day

- plausible to have blocked the straites with mud and shoals as part of a sub-continental island.

- tropical to sub tropical climate

- able to control europe to italy and africa to egypt as written by Plato

- surrounded by divers islands and the way to the boundless Americas continents

- red, white and black rocks like the azores, canaries, cape verde, madeira islands

- in the Atlantic Ocean and Seafaring Tribes

The pictures below will help you visualize both the seamounts above water and their destructive regions and plate tectonic movements.

If you save my new Josephine Atlantis google picture to your hard drive and zoom into a larger picture you can make out more concentric rings behind the hill on the west side and another piece of arc in front and below the viewable arc before the hill on the east side appearing just as they would from having been submerged.



 A field in the Am-Duat is mentioned as being 220 measures long by 300 measures wide.
Earth equatorial circumference = 40,075 km / 24,901 miles / 24 = 1037.5 mph
12,450.5 miles = night or day travel
The Sun would travel at 1037.5 mph.!!
Each field = 1037.5 miles / 220 measures = 4.72 miles per measure
300 = 1,416 miles (Kerma, Sudan to Inegol, Turkey)
Roughly Azores Islands to Cape Verde.
A field would be 1037.5 miles long by 1,416 miles wide beginning at the Sphinxes head.
[b]4th field reaches Rastau = 3,112.50 miles from Giza Rastau.[/b]
The 5th field is known as Amentet,where the 4th and 5th fields would make up the area and location of Atlantis Island being 300 measures wide by 440 measures long or 1,416 miles wide by 2075 long that is outlined by the yellow square.
Note the proximity of Rastau's entrance to my Josephine/Torre location for the Royal City before the Straites. The box to be adjusted northerly for Sun's travel.

Satellite map over the Atlantic Ocean of The Straites of Gibraltar, NW Africa, Spain and Britain.
Artist's rendition of Carthage
Praia de Vitoria (Beach of Victoria), Teiceira Island, Azores Isles. My birthplace.


Technicaly Speaking

Some people seem uncertain to the size of Atlantis or how big and where Cleito's Hill was or where the Horsetrack is. Some researchers like to claim that all measurements should be 1/10th which would mean a stadia was only 60.5ft and a stadium some 60ft by 30ft which would also make Poseidon's temple smaller than the ones standing today. Besides, since a stadium in ancient Greece was 600 x 300 feet, I can't imagine any athletes playing soccer or football in a stadium that was only 60ft by 30ft unless they were only 6 man teams!

They also like to convert the 605 foot stadia to an Egyptian Khet of 52.4 meters or 172 feet which would account for the lots having sides of 1720 feet or just over 1/4 mile (dragstrip). This would not compliment Critias having stated that the lots were of a "Great Size" as he did in the Platonis Opera Greek version of Plato's Critias.

I'll stick to the dialogue for these results. Here are some notes from the Critias dialogue followed by measurements according to the script.

Hope this helps your studies fellow Atlanteans.

Critias Quotes;

"was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia"

"Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain"

"Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side"

"breaking the ground, inclosed the hill in which she dwelt all around, making alternate zones of sea and land larger and smaller, encircling one another; their were two of land and three of water"

(Cleito's Hill  was on the central island where the Royal Palace, Lecuippe's Garden and Poseidon's Temple also were)

"dividing the island of Atlantis into ten portions"

"To his (Atlas) twin brother (Gadeiros) who was born after him and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Hercules, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades."

"rulers of divers islands in the open sea" 

"beginning from the sea they bored a canal of three hundred feet in width and one hundred feet in depth and fifty stadia in length, which they carried through to the outer most zone"

"the largest of the zones into which a passage was cut from the sea was three stadia in breadth and the zone of  land which came next of equal breadth; but the next two zones, the one of water and the other of land, were two stadia and the one which surrounded the central island was a stadium only in width. The island in which the palace was situated had a diameter of five stadia. All this including the zones and the bridge, which was a sixth part of a stadium in width, they surrounded by a stone wall on every side, placing towers and gates on the brdiges where the sea passed in"

"The palaces in the interior of the citadel were constructed on this wise; in the centre was a holy temple dedicated to Cleito and Poseidon"

"Here was Poseidon's own temple which was a stadium in length and half a stadium in width and of a proportionate height"

"Leaving the palace and passing out across the three you came to a wall which began at the sea and went all around; this was everywhere distant fifty stadia from the largest zone or harbour and enclosed the whole, the ends meeting at the mouth of the channel which led to the sea"

"country immediately about and surrounding the city was a level plain, itself surrounded by mountains which descended towards the sea; it was smooth and even and of an oblong shape extending in one direction three thousand stadia . but across the center inland it was two thousand stadia. This part of the island looked towards the  south and was sheltered from the north. The surrounding mountains were celebrated for their number and size and beauty, far beyond any which still exist, having in them also many wealthy villages of country folk and rivers and lakes and meadows supplying food enough for every animal, wild or tame and much wood of various sorts, abundant for each and every kind of work."

"It (surrounding ditch) was excavated to the depth of a hundred feet and it's breadth was a stadium everywhere; it was carried round the whole of the plain and was ten thousand stadia in length. It received the streams which came down from the mountains and winding round the plain and meeting at the city, was there let off into the sea. Further inland, likewise, straight canals of a hundred feet in width were cut from it through the plain and again let off into the ditch leading into the sea; these canals were at intervals of a hundred stadia and by them they brought down the wood from the mountains to the city and conveyed the fruits of the earth in ships, cutting transverse passages from one canal into another and to the city.

"size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand. As to the population, each of the lots in the plain and of the inhabitants of the mountains and of the rest of the country there was also a vast multitude, which was distributed among the lots and had leaders assigned to them according to their districts and villages. The leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war chariot, so as to make up a total of then thousand chariots, also two horses and riders for them and a pair of chariot horses so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots; also two horses and riders for them and a pair of chariot horses without a seat, accompanied by a horseman who could fight on foot carrying a small shield and having a charioteer who stood behind the man at arms to guide the two horses; also he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two slingers, three stone shooters and three javelin men, who were light armed and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships. Such was the military order of the royal city; the order of the other nine governments varied and it would be wearisome to recount their several differences."


1 stadia = 605 feet 2 stadia = 1210 feet 3 stadia = 1815 feet stadium = 600 feet by 300 feet

zone = ring of land or water.

zone 1 = 3 stadia wide = 1815 feet = water (Harbour) 

zone 2 = 3 stadia " = 1815 ft = land (racecourse for horses ran around the entire ring,roughly 3 miles) 

zone 3 = 2 stadia " = 1210 ft = water 

zone 4 = 2 stadia " = 1210 ft = land 

zone 5 = 1 stadium " = 600 ft = water(surrounds central island)

zone 6 = 5 stadia diameter = 3025 ft diameter (1512.50ft radius) 

central island with Poseidon's Temple,Cleito's Hill and The Grove of Leucippe.

ringed zones 3630 + 2420 + 600 + 1512.50ft = 8162.50ft radius (outer ring 1 to middle of central island.)

8162.5 x 2 = 16325ft diameter = 3.092 mile diameter across ringed zones

diameter = line drawn through the center of a circle from one border to the opposite border.

radius = center of circle to outside border.

outer surrounding wall = 50 stadia distant from outer zone 1(1st ring of water = harbour)

30250ft + 16325 + 30250 = 76,825ft diameter across outer fortress wall = 14.55 miles diameter for the Royal City.

poseidon's temple = 1 stadium long by 1/2 stadium wide (600ft.Lx300ft.w)

bridge = 1/6th of a stadium wide = 100 feet wide

50 stadia = 30250 feet = 5.7292 miles

canal = 50 stadia (30250ft) long, 300 feet wide by 100 feet deep from outer zone 1. (5.7292 miles to the sea and outer wall)

plain in center of the island on south-eastern side facing the pillars of Hercules - 3000 stadia long by 2000 stadia wide (1,815,000 ft by 1,210,000 ft) plain = 343.75L x 229.17w miles = 78,777.19 sq.miles

 (27,878,400sq feet to 1 square mile) plain = 3000 x 2000 = 6,000,000 sq stadia = 1,815,000ft.L x 1,210,000ft.W = 2,196,150,000,000sq.ft (2.197 quatrillion sq.ft) 

plain = 343.75 + 343.75 + 229.17 + 229.17 = 687.50 + 458.34 = 1145.84 miles around plain

(same as surrounding ditch of 10,000 stadia)

surrounding ditch = 10,000 stadia in length by 1 stadium wide by 100 feet deep

(6,050,000ft.L x 600ft.w x 100ft.d) ditch = 6,050,000ft / 5280ft = 1145.83 miles long (same as plain)

inside of surrounding ditch on the plain were some 27 canals 100 feet wide at intervals of 100 stadia

(60,500 ft or 11.46 miles) with transverse passages to each canal.

60,000 lots inside of plain

lots inside the plain - 1 lot = 10 stadia each way = 10 x 10 stadia = 100sq.stadia lots

lots = 6050ft x 6050ft = 36,602,500sq.ft per lot x 60,000 lots = 2,196,150,000,000 sq.ft (same as plain)

lots = 1.15 miles x 1.15 miles = 1.323sq miles x 60,000 lots = 79,380sq miles (same as plain)

343.75 / 1.15 = 298.1930435 lots length of plain

229.17 / 1.15 = 199.2783 lots width of plain.

298.1930435 x 199.2783 = 59,423.403 lots

(roughly same as 60,000 lots inside of plain considering rounded off numbers.)

Canals on plain; 343.75 / 11.46 = 30 canals

(less roughly 3 canals to compensate for 100 foot widths to fit the length of the plain = roughly 27 canals which would be joined by 26 transverse canals.

Temple of Poseidon in Paestum measures 60m x 25m.(2362.2in x 984.25in = 196.85ft x 82.021ft) 

Temple of Poseidon on the island of Sounion is 31.12 X 13.47m. (1225.194in x 530.314in = 102.10ft x 44.193ft)

Temple of Poseidon Atlantis = 600ft x 300ft = 182.9m x 91.44m

The Great Pyramid of Khufu 

Original Height: 146.6 m (480.96 ft) Current Height: 138.75 m (455.21 ft) 

Length of Side: 230.37 (755.8 ft) Angle: 51º 50’ 40” 

Estimated Volume: 2,521,000 cu m 


From Herodotus Histories; [quote] a boat comes, at an appointed time, from the island called Prosopitis,- which is portion of the Delta,nine schoenes in circumference,- and calls at the several cities in turn to collect the bones of the oxen. Prosopitis is a district containing several cities; the name of that from which the boats come is Atarbechis. Venus has a temple there of much sanctity.[/quote] 

schoine = 60 stadia = 36,300ft = 6.9miles Egyptian Schoene = 60 furlongs

A furlong is about the same as a stadia.

9 x 60 = 540 stadia = 326,700 feet/5280 = 61.9 miles circumference for the island of Prosopitis.

stade = 605 feet

circumference = pie(3.14) x diameter

326,700/3.14 = 104,044.6ft = 19.71 mile diameter for the island of Prosopitis.


Ringed Zones = 3.092 mile diameter across ringed zones 3.092 x 3.14 = 9.71 mile circumference

Royal City = outer surrounding wall = 50 stadia distant from outer zone 1(1st ring of water = harbour)

30250ft + 16325 + 30250 = 76,825ft diameter across outer fortress wall = 14.55 miles diameter

Royal City = 14.55 x 3.14 = 45.7 mile circumference

As you can see, it isn't difficult to believe that Atlantis Royal City was 45 miles in circumference when comparedto Prosopitis,61.9 miles,an island in the Delta Nile above Memphis.

It surprises me why Solon,Critias or Plato didn't use Schoenes like Herodotus when they were describing the size of the city and plain which would be 50 x 33.33 schoenes (3000 x 2000 stadia).

In reality the Island of Atlantis consisted of 4 islands.

1.-The small central island surrounded by rings where the Temple of Poseidon was.

2.-The first ring of land surrounding the central island.

3.-the second ring of land surrounding the central island

4.-the entire island of Atlantis that contained the above 3 islands in the Royal City.

The circular zones were surrounded by a fortressed wall that was 50 stadia(5.7miles) distant from the outermost ring. This is the Royal City of Atlantis that was surrounded by the plain on the island of Atlantis. In the center of the whole island there was a plain on the south east side facing towards Gades, Spain and the Straites of Gibraltar. This should give us a "minimum" view of an island 2 plains wide by 3 plains long or 1031.25 miles long

(N/S) x 458.34 miles wide (E/W)

1 meter = 39.37 inches international mile of 5,280 feet, 1,760 yards, or exactly 1,609.344 meters.

Critias; Benjamin Jowett translation.

[quote]As to the population, each of the lots in the plain had to find a leaderfor the men who were fit for military service, and the size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way, and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand. And of the inhabitants of the mountains and of the rest of the country there was also a vast multitude, which was distributed among the lots and had leaders assigned to themaccording to their districts and villages. The leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war-chariot, so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots; also two horses and riders for them, and a pair of chariot-horses without a seat, accompanied by a horseman who could fight on foot carrying a small shield, and having a charioteer who stood behind the man-at-arms to guide the two horses; also, he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two slingers, three stone-shooters and three javelin-men, who were light-armed, and four sailors to make up the comlement of twelve hundred ships. Such was the military order of the royal city, the order of the other ninve governments varied and it would be wearisome to recount their several differences[/quote]

-note; ben jowett did not mention the bowmen or archers according to the Platonis Opera in Greek.-Riv. 

It sounds like this is Atlas's army and the district of the plain was Atlas' division which contained the Royal City and 60,000 lots, which was the largest and best portion inherited from Atlas' mother. From the statement of a leader being required to furnish 10,000 chariots which was a 6th portion, we can deduce that their were 6 Generals and 60,000 units in total for Atlas' army.

1/6th of 60,000 = 10,000 lots per General 

Each lot had to contribute; 

1 charioteer...............1 seated chariot...................2 horses 

1 charioteer...............1 unseated chariot..............2 horses 

1 horseman/foot fighter 

2 heavy armed soldiers 

2 slingers 

3 stone shooters 

3 javelin men 

4 sailors to compliment 1200 ships - 40,000 / 1200 = 33 men per ship. 

17 men, 2 chariots and 4 horses 

8 lots combined built a ship to total 1200 ships for 10,000 lots. (10k/1200ships) 

1200 x 6 = 7200 ships for the Royal Army x 33 = 237,600 sailors.

Each General's war unit consisted of; 

170,000 men...............x 6 = 1,020,000 men 

20,000 chariots............x6 = 120,000 chariots 

40,000 horses...............x6 = 240,000 horses 

1200 ships.....................x6 = 7200 ships

Consider the other 9 were half the size; 

510,000 men...............x9 = 4,590,000 men 

60,000 chariots...........x9 = 540,000 chariots

 20,000 horses..............x9 = 180,000 horses

 600 ships.......................x9 = 5400 ships

Total approximate size of Atlantean Army. 5,610,000 men 660,000 chariots 420,000 horses 12,600 ships

Consider that half those men were Father's or Family men = 2,805,000 families x 5 = 14,025,000 people for the populace of Atlantis Island. Consider the plain was the largest and best district of 344 x 230 miles, we could say the other 9 districts were half the size also or 172 x 115 miles. The plain was near the center of the island, thus on the east side we can say the length was 344 + 172 + 172 = 688 miles.

There would be another 4 regions alongside the west side of the plain and the 2 regions on the east side. And finaly 3 regions on the west side.

Giving us 3 regions wide by 4 regions long through the middle.

Length = 344 + 172 + 172 + 172 = 860 miles width = 230 + 115 + 115 = 460 miles

Based on the above, the island of Atlantis would have been around 1000 x 500 miles in area on the "conservative" side or 500,000 sq. miles. (The Josephine/Torre seamount is also around this length)

According to the 14,025,000 populace, this would equal a reasonable 28 people per square mile. If we say that 1/3 of the warriors were Fathers, then we would have 1,870,000 families x 5 = 9.350,000 census or 19 people per sq. mile.

Some districts or populations could have been near to the size of the plain.

Imagine how many people per square mile are in your city today!


Addendum note; 

Upon further study of the John Burnett's Greek Platonis Opera ca.1903, we realize that Ben Jowett forgot to mention the Bowmen or Archers, and that R.G.Bury incorrectly stated that the second pair of horses did not have a chariot, but a man who jumped from horse to horse while followed by a charioteer which makes no sense. 

The Greek text uses the word "dipros" and "katabaten", where we realize that this is in fact a step down board chariot that two men stood on.

 [b][Critias 119a-119b]...each lot provided a male leader, but the lots were of a great size being 10 times 10 stadia, of which all together there existed 60,000 lots. But also the mountains and the other districts held an infinite number of men who gathered down in the country towns of which were chosen leaders to distribute their entire lots. That in any event, the leaders were to arrange, on the one hand, and provide for the battle a sixth portion of a warriors chariot that was 10,000 chariots, but also with two horses and one mounted man. Furthermore, to themselves also, a pair of horses with a step down board chariot of which two individuals go upon, one with a small shield and a charioteer to hold the horses. Two Heavily armed (warriors) and that of an Archer and Slinger, two of each, and a light armed foot soldier who was also a slinger that struck with stones and a javelin man, three of each, but of sea mates, four who would be part of an account for 1200 ships. In any event, on the one hand, in this manner were the warriors appointed for the Royal Kings city state besides that of the other nine which is of a length that is besides our chance to speak.

-- [translated by Paulo Riven,2009, using Perseus Tufts translator and Platonis Opera][/b] 

dipros - chariot-board;            A) a board on which 2 could stand            B) a seat

katabaten - step down, descend 

Based on the use of the katabaten, the second chariot is in fact a step down board chariot. 

1/6th portion of 60,000 lots to make up 10,000 war chariots 

Each lot was to provide; 

1 charioteer............1 chariot.......................2 horses

 1 charioteer.......1 step board chariot..... 2 horses 

1 man with small shield 

2 heavy armed men (hoplites) 

2 archers 

2 slingers 

3 light armed stone slingers 

3 javelin men 

4 sea mates 

Totals; 19 men according to Platonis Opera. 

What is missing is horses with horsemen warriors that could also amount to 20 men and 5 horses per lot. 

Some people think that the second chariot mentioned is a continuation of the first chariot which would account for 18 men. 

In any case, the principal is that we realized the immense size of the Atlantean army and populace since Critias is only telling us about one district of the 10 and he also stated that the lots were of a "Great " size which would compliment their 1.15 mile sides. To convert the stade of 605ft to an Egyptian Khet of 52.4m or 172ft, would not  fit with Critias' statement for the size of the lots. The khet lot would be 1720 foot sides or slightly larger than a 1/4  mile dragstrip which would not be termed a Great size. 

The Stadium is 600ft whereas the Stadia is 605ft.

When Critias described the size of Poseidon's temple he said it was a stadium in length and half a stadium in width or 600ft x 300ft.

For the proponents of altering the numbers in Critias to 1/10th, such as 9000 years should be 900 years or a stadium would then be only 60ft.

Poseidon's temple would therefore only be 60ft x 30ft, a rather small size as compared to the existing temples below.

For the proponents of the Egyptian Khet being 52.4m or 172ft for the stadia,then Poseidon's temple would be roughly 172ft x 86ft. This would be a more acceptable size.

Temple of Poseidon in Paestum measures 60m x 25m.(2362.2in x 984.25in = 196.85ft x 82.021ft)

Temple of Poseidon on the island of Sounion is 31.12 X 13.47m. (1225.194in x 530.314in = 102.10ft x 44.193ft)

Temple of Poseidon Atlantis = 600ft x 300ft = 182.9m x 91.44m

But here's the logic. When Critias uses the term STADIUM, he is therefore referring to a sports athletic arena or playing field, where we also use the word stadium today for our athletic buildings. Therefore, the stadia would also have been based on the size of a stadium.

Obviously, none of our athletes would be able to compete in a stadium based on 1/10th. The Egyptian Khet maybe, with the exception of hockey,tennis or basketball of which soccer would be the oldest sport and un-playable in a khet stadium.

Official NHL hockey rink size; 85ft (26m) x 200ft (61m)

Official Football field size; 360ft (109.7m) x 160ft (48.8m)

Official Soccer international soccer field; 330ft (100m) x 360ft (110m)

Official NBA Basketball court; 94ft (29m) x 50ft (15m)

Official Tennis court; 120ft (37m) x 60ft (18m)

Also, the Royal City of Atlantis was on a large plain on a very large island, so the city having a diameter of 14.5 miles is rather conservative when compared to the district of Prosopitis as I already pointed out, having a size of 20 miles in diameter in the nile delta alone.


Sometimes I amuse myself in thinking that my hometown of the Azores Islands consists of 9 islands and that the island of Atlantis is missing which compares to the 10 districts mentioned in Plato's dialogues!. 


Best of Health and Fortune for you; Paulo Riven 2009



Atlantean City II- Avila Island, Tansania, Africa.



Ironicaly, where my Garden of Eden (Avila) is situated in Tanzania, Africa, we can also envision this as an early  
Atlantean City that would also have appeared on a large island surrounded by water when the ancient seashore was further inland.


Compare the above map of Tanzania, with this Cycladic Islands artifact from ca.2850.bC. Note the 5 mountains  
also surrounding a concentric city.Archaeologists refer to this as a "frying pan", where we can amuse ourselves  
in knowing that the wise Atlanteans baked secret maps of Atlantis on the bottom of their fresh and tasty Bread!



As the legend relates, Atlantis was past the island of Eritrea  and the broken pillars which are also found on the  
East coast of Africa post 6482.bC, and reminiscent of the Pillars of Hercules and Erithrea from the Straits of  
Gibraltar, Iberia.



Atlantean City III-Cade Avila, Mozambique



Just beyond Eritrea we find another ancient location of Atlantiean City with it's concentric mountain circles and  
Neptune's Temple eroded by time with traces of it's large circular wall still visible in Mozambique,Africa. I call this  
Cade Avila or Cape of Africa.





Atlantean City IV-Phla, Lake Tritonis



This was a time as told by Herodotus (Mylos), when the river Nile (Nevi), once flowed West across Africa  
(Avila).We can also imagine in antiquity, locations for pillars of hercules at the messenia straite between Sicily  
and Italy and also at the straite between Sardinia and Corsica. We can also envision the Atlantean city of Phla in
 lake Tritonis where the Atalantes,Ataranteans and Amazons lived as mentioned by Herodotus, which would also have been fed by a large Canal from the mediterranean sea.



Atlantean City V-Tahla and Al-Mansurah- Delta Nile -3500.bC


The Lion of " TAHLA " Delta Egypt by Riven

ATLANTIS V...Revealed by Riven. 
The Nile Delta.
Tahla and Al Mansurah
Look upon the Nile with Google Earth as you would facing South entering from the Mediterranean Canal.
Until you reach Talha and Al-Mansurah.
The Canal is closer to the Left side, viewing South, near Dumyat.
Just before Talha or where the Canal curves to the right, stop and look at the CIRCULAR APARTMENTS and THE RACE TRACK NEAR by, converted into a Soccer Field. N E
Get back in your Dragon Claw Ship and proceed South along the Canal to TALHA.
Where it curves to the EAST....STOP AND LOOK at the Large greyish taupe patch of dirt, and some circles above it...
ZOOM IN ON THE DIRT > about 1030 feet altitude.

There is an ABUNDANCE of ATLANTEAN HISTORY to be found HERE.....

SaJaRa -Riven. Jan 16/2006.aD. 8488.aJa.


TAHLA.. DELTA EGYPT facing South.

Eventually the migrating Atlanteans would travel North along the White Nile from Tansania's Old Dupai Gorge  
and into the lands now known as Egypt and finally settle in her newest home in the Delta Nile near the  
Mediterranean which today is called TALHA and AL MANSURAH. These cities are identical replicas to the  
legend as told by Critias in Plato's dialogue with it's concentric circles, adjacent race track and grand Canal  
clearly visible as these satellite photos relate. We can also clearly see beyond any doubt, the Lion Seal of Atlantis still visible on the ground and fortunately preserved for us to witness by a miracle of eons.
The white line with the red dots is the location of the Great Lion Seal of Atlantis.



Atlantean City VI - Bur at alhitan-Egypt (barbarian Atlantean)



Atlantean City 7, ATAR, (Tjaru) Mauretania


Richat Structure, Mauretania, NW Africa. 

Atlantis VII by Paulo Riven


1 stade = 605ft
Herodotus stade = 660ft


Quote from Perseus Tufts;
"2. metaphor;  "hekaton stadioisin aristos" = "best by a hundred miles'"

The term stadious can also mean miles.


Actual greek wording in Plato's Critias dialogue;


Hill at the center of the plain;  pentekonta, 50 stadious 
Canal length; 50 stadion x 300ft wide x 100ft deep
outer wall; pentekonta stadious, 50 stade
50 stadion x 605ft = 30,250ft / 5280 = 5.73 miles

tristadios - 3 stade
duoin stadioin - 2 stade
1 stadiou
pente stadion - 5 stade central island

poseidon's temple- a stadiou (600ft) in length x 3 plethra (triplethros, 300ft)
1-plethra = 100ft.

Atlantean Great Plain; 3000 x 2000
trischilion stadion=3000 stade
dischilion = 2000
stadion murion; 10,000 stade surrounding ditch
stadious hekaton; 100 stade distance between canals of 100 ft width

deka dekakis en stadia, muriades , 10 times 10, 10,000, alltogether the lots to be six (60,000 lots)

Basically, we now convert stades to miles which still roughly works out to multiples of 10.
eg; 3 stadia = 3 miles = 15,840ft = 26 stade or roughly 30 (10 x 3)


Atlantis 7.


Great Atlantean Plain;____3000 miles x 2000 miles = 6,000,000sq miles
60,000 lots @ 10 miles x 10 miles (100sq miles)


Canal length; 50 miles or 500 miles (50 mile canal plus 450 mile river)


Central island;_____5 miles = 26,400 = 43.6 stade
Rings 1 and 2;_____ 3 miles = 15,840ft = 26
Rings 3 and 4;_____ 2 miles = 10,560 ft = 17.5
Ring 5;____________1 miles = 5,280 ft =  8.7

Ringed Area = 27 miles = 142,560 ft = 235.6 stade
Outer Wall diameter = 127 miles (50 + 27 + 50) = 1,108.4 stade

Neptune's Temple = 6,150 ft x 3,150 ft. (walled enclosure, not the actual temple)

Royal City near the center of the plain or around 1000 - 1500 miles.


Herodotus told us about the Atlantes and Ataranteans.
The Ataranteans have no names.

The Am-Tuat told us that Urnes (Wr-r-n-s /Uraranes) was the 2nd hour of Ra's Journey over the lands from Egypt to the Pillars of Hercules on his way to Amenti or Atlantis.
Wr-r-n-s is usually followed by a rectangular glyph which we are told is (sh) for a pool, except there are no water signs inside the rectangle. So this must actualy represent district or land area since nomes are often surrounded by a rectangle with castled borders.


This gives us TA for Earth or Land, therefore wr = Great, rn = name and Ta = Earth or Land.

Thus Uraranta or Uranta means great name of/for earth or land of a great name.
In simplicity this is where the esoteric Urantia group would have derived their name from the Egyptian language.

Uraranes or Uraranta can also be Auraranes or Auraranta originaly which would over time be shortened to Uranes or Aranes. The wr symbol drawn by a bird (swallow) can also be the letters A or Tj hence Aur,A or Tjarane, Tjarune which is comparable to the mysterious district on the 1st dynasty Menes Aha labels of Tjeru, Tjaru or Urtjeru where we see the bird drawn in some labels but not all. The Libyan name of Urnes or Uraranes for Ra's journey can also identify with the ships on the labels that tell us of a long voyage comparable to the 2000 mile distance of Uraranes from Egypt to the Pillars of Hercules to the Atlantean plains.

In these examples we see Atlantes and Atarantes and we also realize that the r can also interchange with a T to give us Araranes as Atatanes, which by coincidence is the name for Atlantis that I came up with in Atatana in realizing that the greek name of Atlantis isn't far off from the Egyptian name.


Evermore, the main point of Uraranes and Atarantes is that we see the common root of ARA, which can mean an altar, or heat, or to plough in greek and we see it in words for gold like cARAt or Arachnia for spiders. Basically all symbolic of the golden desert lands of the sahARA. I aver to say that the ARAbs don't even know the etymology of their own name which they conclude it was due to someone writing the name in the 8th century bC.


So we realize that Ara and Ata can be compared just like Atlantes and Atarantes.
But Herodotus told us that the Atarantes have no name, which is unheard of because everyone has a name of some form. The reality must be that they have no name because no one knew where they came from and they spoke a different language. And since they have no name, then how would Herodotus know to call them Atarantes when he said the Atlantes were their neighbours? Since they were Atarantes, we would figure they come from Ataranta, Ataran or ATAR.


I knew I heard of this name of Atar before, but couldn't quite place it and I thought since Uraranes reached to the Adrar regions that it was around there. Turns out it was in Mauretania which is also known as the Maur Adrar region and rings a bell with Libyan pre-dynastic district of Maerea or Mareotis in the Delta nile where the first Egyptian kings arose as early Atlanteans from the Great Golden Lands.


As chance may have it, ATAR is only 100 miles next to the mysterious RICHAT structure of concentric circular rings undeciphered by scientists. With a little more indepth study of Richat, we can come to the startling conclusion as I did that there is a very strong comparison to Atlantis, except on a much larger 10:1 scale. Most people don't consider Richat because it is too obvious and conclude that it is simply a geological formation. Well the Greeks did say that Poseidon created the rings which would mean a natural or geological formation.

Although today, Richat is some 350 miles from the Atlantic Ocean and around 500 miles in antiquity when the sea level was lower.


Whether the shoreline was higher at some point within 50 miles of Richat, I am unsure of, but it would still be in striking distance of a huge tsunami that could have rinsed it clean and left the salt in the rings. Or some type of hydrogen burning spaceship which landed where the Atlanteans "first saw the light" formed the rings and the Atlanteans decided to build their city there with their advanced knowledge?


I guess we can compare these startling realizations and perhaps why the Phoenicians (Phoebus/nyx = Phanes = Phero) cover up Atlantis and distract us with Egypt, Sumer, Babylon and the Annunaki with their bogus media moguls like they did to our Creator JA Mn and our histories.


Here's the photos for you and all measurements were taken with Google Earth, so they may be close but not exact.


Seatbelts nor hairspray have any effect at 7 light year per hour speeds. :)



Mt Parnassus, Greece. Note concentric Atlantean Olive grove design.




Paulo J.Tx.Mn. 

Tribes of Atlantis.