Sift all dry together and make a small well to add the oil/butter and slowly add the water, stirring until forming a ball. Don't add all the water unless necessary, you want your dough to pull off the sides and form a ball. Rest for 15 minutes and then knead for 5-10 minutes by hand. If making two loaves, divide evenly and shape into logs, placing in your greased bread loaf pans. Let rise for 1 hour or until double in size. If topping with poppy or sesame seeds, brush with an egg. milk, or butter and lightly top. Preheat your oven to 375°/175° and bake for 30-40 minutes depending on the size of your loaves. You want a beautiful golden brown color. Cool completely to let the bread set and crust to form, then serve and enjoy!!!