Sea of Faith Auckland


Welcome to all those interested in exploring Religious Thought.

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Welcome to all those interested in exploring Religious Thought.  Sea of Faith invites you to consider a mind-teaser:

Godless Morality:

Why God and religion have nothing essential to do with morality

an address by Robert Nola, emeritus professor of philosophy at Auckland University

 

 

Prepare to be fascinated (as I was when I first heard this story) – Professor Nola will be introducing an amazing debate maybe 2405 years ago by Socrates/Plato. He says Socrates/Plato” because “Socrates wrote nothing and it is from Plato that we get claims about how Socrates might have argued the case – but Plato wrote dialogues which are plays with Socrates as the main character.” 

 

But whoever said it, it is very sharp.

 

Prof Nola says the real crux of the matter is:

·         Is something good because God commands it? or

·         Does God command something because that is good?

“If you say yes to the first question, then there can be no rational reason as to why God commands something – he just commands it.

“If you say yes to the second question then God is in the same boat as us and morality is something independent which we, and God, try to discern.”

Reviewed by David Hines

 

Time and place

St Lukes Community Centre, 130 Remuera Rd, Remuera

Sunday August 21 4pm,  meet over tea and coffee.  At 4.30pm – programme commences, including address and time for questions and discussion.

National SoF news

The July 2016 Sea of Faith newsletter is now in our hands, together with full information about the 2016 Conference programme, and a registration form.  This should be another excellent conference, and in a venue providing more comfort than we have been used to J

The Programme and registration form can also be found at http://www.sof.org.nz/  Note, you do not have to be a member of a Sea of Faith group to attend the conference.  If you know of anyone who might be interested, you could send them this web address.  They could explore the programme, and enrol on line if they wished.

Four members of the Steering Committee retire this year, so the May newsletter sent out a request for new members.  The job is interesting and not onerous, and you get to work with some superb thinkers and doers J  A committee member has to attend the conference (there are two committee meetings over that time), and one other meeting, in Wellington on a Saturday in late January or February (to suit everyone).  Travel to this meeting is paid.  There is a skype conference of up to 1½  hours on the second Thursday of each month, starting at 8 pm.  We’re still looking for good people – email Jock Crawford  jockcrawford@actrix.co.nz  who will send the paperwork.        



Please make a note that the Sea of Faith National Conference will be held in Wellington on the weekend of 7-9 October at the Silverstream Retreat, Hutt Valley.  Please mark your diaries now.

 Conference Theme :  "With or Without God: Community in a Post-Theistic Age"

Speakers confirmed so far
1. Sir Lloyd Geering
2. Gretta Vosper (advocate of Progressive Christianity, author of With or Without God: Why The Way We Live is More Important than What We Believe
3. Michael Benedikt (author of God is the Good We Do).

 


Remember 4.00 pm August 21st for Auckland meeting

Sea of Faith Auckland
St Lukes Community Centre
130 Remuera Road
Remuera
Auckland.
Enquiries re SOF contact Marion Hines
marionhines@xtra.co.nz 


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OUR AIM:

To explore religious thought from a non-dogmatic, human-oriented standpoint.

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