Jan92012 Transcript Cleaning



cindyfsolomon Bravo! @rcauvin @prodmgmttalk @cathyliggett @valworkman @jidoctor @pcaustin @brainmates @chrisboothe @hanneshelander #prodmgmttalk -5:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Today's stats: 156 tweets generated 256,411 impressions, reaching an audience of 11,149 followers #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -5:02 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Join us next week for the Power of Pricing w/ Mark Stiving, PhD Pricing Expert & Author #prodmgmttalk -5:00 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Please visit our website and take the Survey for best time/day to participate http://t.co/ttClqyWS #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Today's unedited transcript: http://t.co/KypL8UUC #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Thank you @valworkman for launching Global Product Management Talk 2012 ! #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett Thank you Cindy and and Adrienne, great conversations #prodmgmttalk -4:57 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon My plan is to make Global Product Management Talk financially viable...! #prodmgmttalk -4:55 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Please commit one feature that you intend to deliver this year - tweet it & we'll document it in transcript to measure EOY #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett Thanks Val #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett RT @cindyfsolomon: bottlenecks identify where to fix process... What are our contraints! #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon bottlenecks identify where to fix process... #prodmgmttalk -4:53 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Practices are overhead & expenses - don't add anything unless you need to - don't do everything - just bare minimum #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @rcauvin: Im more about continuous improvement :-) #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett RT @cindyfsolomon: excitement requirements become the expected requirements , but be the first and they are differentiate you! #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Regardless of how much of the 7 pillars & practices of #prodmgmt - our lives are improved if we implement even 1 of these... #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin I'm more about continuous improvement :-) #prodmgmttalk -4:51 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon LAUNCH - is about MEANS - Map, Eliminate, Acquire, Nurture & Secure (so many acronymns!) #prodmgmttalk -4:51 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Launch or release - #agile people get upset about this - but need a point in time to say "this is the release" #prodmgmttalk -4:51 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon All excitement requirements (we added a mobile app!) become expected requirements eventually #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Performance rquirement - define, provide basic req to clarify, keep some excitement requirements to go above expectations #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @hanneshelander appreciate your participation & feedback! #prodmgmttalk -4:48 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon D-design, E-estimate, L-legitimatize... #prodmgmttalk -4:48 PM Jan 9th, 2012


hanneshelander Sorry, have to leave the chat early. Interesting! I don't buy the metaphor, but some of the practices could be useful. #prodmgmttalk -4:47 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon requirements clarify the vision, MODEL the expectations - what are we delivering this year? M- milestones, O-organized parts #prodmgmttalk -4:47 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon #prodmgmt requirements management - marketing requirements MODEL - #prodmgmttalk -4:47 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett How powerful could we be if these product management principles could be applied to our everyday lives? #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Engage stakeholders - share w/people serving what we intend to do this year. R - RADIO - broadcast the right message! #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Product Roadmap = journey, contract (accountability) #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Roadmap is a contract - from where you are today to where going with accountability for who's responsible to make it happen #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @CathyLiggett lets schedule you to speak soon! http://t.co/22OhCdWT #prodmgmttalk -4:45 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says PM Nerds teach seminars on these topics & may be publishing book on this - even non-product people need this #prodmgmttalk -4:45 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett RT @rcauvin:... treat our relationship as between product & prospect. #prodmgmttalk , but are we already doing this unaware? #prodmgmttalk -4:44 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Roadmaps provide power - Possible alternatives, plan may change, need alternatives #prodmgmttalk -4:44 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Help others anticipate our future, get them involved to increase our POWER - rate at which we deliver our features #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Roadmap definition: Once we identify New Year goals, how do we communicate where we're going & include them in our success? #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates RT @cindyfsolomon: User-centered - not what we value, but what our customers value #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon User-centered - not what we value, but what our customers value #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Value means the accessibility (sonet vs. symphony suite) #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Question for everyone: What promises are you making to those in your life about the values you will provide this year?! #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon feature definition is all about the value provided, those things that deliver value - the outward promise making... #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon features = talents, skills, unique contributions/characteristics.... #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Question for everyone: "What features am I offering of value to my market?" #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman has difficulty identifying his own features as a product (would make kids identify the market they're serving) #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @CathyLiggett: Gospel: goals, objective, strategy, plan, execution,learning #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Once we identify what to invest in: go to VALUE - visualization, accessibility, Lasting impact, User-centered, Evolved Expt #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon 80% of #prodmgmt can't quantify the value of their features.... #prodmgmttalk -4:37 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett Gospel: goals, objective, strategy, plan, execution,learning #prodmgmttalk -4:37 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Paul Eredash (?) "if you don't have a PhD in number theory, you're not human" #prodmgmttalk -4:36 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @brainmates agrees with @rcauvin ! #prodmgmttalk -4:36 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin Heh. I think my gf is like Adrienne; she doesn't like to treat our relationship as between product & prospect. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:35 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon What things should you do (what features) to commit irrevocable resources to get the job done? says @valworkman #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates RT @cindyfsolomon: Our lives are the most important product we will ever manage - requires rigor to create value... #prodmgmttalk -4:34 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Our lives are the most important product we will ever manage - requires rigor to create value... #prodmgmttalk -4:34 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @jidoctor Thanks for joining us - now have an Android app to get it on your smartphone! http://t.co/z8BTHXcl (iphones coming) #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor #prodmgmttalk - need to drop off, but interesting to follow tonight. thanks @valworkman -4:32 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin I can tell @ValWorkman teaches this stuff. Nice use of acronyms as hooks and memory devices. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:31 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @brainmates (you go girl!) struggling to apply these principles to people #prodmgmttalk -4:31 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon In opptnty analysis - gets so cluttered, can't see opprtunity - leave rocks out "Just the facts, man" to get Clarity/Neat #prodmgmttalk -4:31 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon ALIGN - what will give the biggest payoff? Accumulating logical steps, Incentive, the Gospel (strategic plan), Neat #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @rcauvin Thanks for definition. Another Acronymn: ALIGN #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett Val didn't do his market sensing! #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @CathyLiggett: The market is too dynamic and competitive to sit still, be have to be valuable and relevant #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin "Divine" http://t.co/UckRMx0j #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:28 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman suggests we use "discern" Q3: How do we discern our own market problems? #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett The market is too dynamic and competitive to sit still, be have to be valuable and relevant #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Q3 How do we discern our own market problems? #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin "Devine" or "divine"? #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:27 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon NOTE: @valworkman speaks in gems - everything is valuable... #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Q3 How do we devine our own market problems? #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon E - Elevating change - make change to become bigger & better person to offer b/b products to our market #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon R - demonstrate & achieve RELEVANT progression - build on past & push forward. C - Clarity in what issue truly is (5 Y Toyota) #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin Facilitate conversations and listen to understand situations and challenges around us. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:25 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates @hanneshelander I appreciate your view more... I find it difficult to see individuals as products - its almost too cold for me #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Another acronymn: FORCE - Familiar Form: perceive opportunites & document in standardized format, O - objective perspective #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Question: How do we identify (personal & community) opportunities to serve marketplace better? As citizen... #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jan 9th, 2012


hanneshelander I argue that Iidividuals are not products, but our indivudual skills and knowledge can be packaged as one or several products. #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Market Sensing = DANCE with mkt: Differentiation, Anticipation, Nudge, Cost Position Echo Chamber #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon E - echochamber tell people who I am and what I do - don't believe your own echo - the dance of the market - 2 way relationshp #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon 5 letter acronymn DANCE - Differentiation, Anticipation (what market needs), NUDGE (leave footprint behind), Cost position.... #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett @rcauvin I'd like to find that place! #prodmgmttalk -4:21 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Welcome @chrisboothe Today's resources (although questions are fluctuating) http://t.co/6bgHpqId #prodmgmttalk -4:21 PM Jan 9th, 2012


hanneshelander Agree. “@rcauvin: Sometimes the best product strategy is to find a niche w/ virtually no competition. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:21 PM Jan 9th, 2012


chrisboothe RT @rcauvin: Sometimes the best product strategy is to find a niche w/ virtually no competition. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:20 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says we must identify features that deliver most value to market & fixate on those - same as individuals head-head #prodmgmttalk -4:20 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Love it! RT @rcauvin: Sometimes the best product strategy is to find a niche w/ virtually no competition. #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -4:20 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon YES! RT @jidoctor: improvements @ValWorkman professes are not once a year resolutions, they are ongoing commitments #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin Sometimes the best product strategy is to find a niche w/ virtually no competition. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:19 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @brainmates says maybe we shouldn't think of ourselves as products all the time...@valworkman says people become obsolete #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett What is your competive advantage, what is your differentiator? How do you matter? #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor @cindyfsolomon the improvements @ValWorkman professes are not once a year resolutions, they are ongoing commitments #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says if you're not competitive, you're not relevant but @brainmates says you don't want to compete all the time #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Adrienne @brainmates is disagreeing w/ @valworkman... #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says "improv cost position or differentiation for competitive advantage" use new years resolutions to increase #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @brainmates says "need to pay attention to what are our objectives? Do we want more attention from our SOs?" #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says "what about our significant others? They consume what we offer (w/o questioning) & our employers" #prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor a1:there is a sociological principle that says we only exist as we r seen in the eyes of our cmty & we r shaped by those views #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman sad that #prodmgmt don't recognize their personal markets...who purchases what we offer (talents) and consume them #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin A1: We can "position" ourselves by focusing on certain types of problems & customers, and leverage our strengths. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:13 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @jidoctor: a1: we are our own product managers, but accountable to our market for growth & understanding of problems. #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Welcome @hanneshelander great to have you join us again! #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor a1: we are our own product managers, but accountable to our market for growth & understanding of problems. #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman asking "What are the principles that we can apply to ourselves?" & How can we use our market sensing principles... #prodmgmttalk -4:12 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin A1: We solve problems, we have strengths and weaknesses, so we are very much like products. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt -4:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Q1 How are we like products, and who is your product manager? #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Feel free to jump in as we warm up to Q1 ! #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman suggests that #prodmgmt principles are powerful weapons to set personal agendas & see them to reality #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Welcome @jidoctor @rcauvin! @valworkman talking re New Year's resolutions - do we build a life shop to simulate construction #prodmgmttalk -4:10 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon We're broadcasting live on the air! Listen in now at http://t.co/X7oEoLJL. #BlogTalkRadio #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -4:08 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman asking "What would we need to successfully build a piano with our bare hands?" #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates @hanneshelander Hello! Our first product person from China. How exciting. #prodmgmttalk -4:05 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor @ValWorkman same to you ... now enlighten me oh wise one #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin Joining the #prodmgmttalk fray from Austin, Texas. I do #prodmgmt at @dachisgroup. -4:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Welcome to the 1st 2012 product talk on twitter with @valworkman - using #prodmgmt principles for self improvement #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


hanneshelander Joining from Shanghai, China. Product Director for @starrymedia and independent consultant. #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


jidoctor joining #prodmgmttalk from #mpls - nice to be back ;-) -4:02 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman says Hi and welcome to @CathyLiggett! #prodmgmttalk -4:02 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Today's resources and questions: http://t.co/6bgHpqId @valworkman teaches class on this! #prodmgmttalk -4:00 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon "don't get fixated on 7 Pillars - doesn't matter the order" says @valworkman #prodmgmttalk -3:59 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett Austin, TX, event director for pmNERDS, company focused on using product management principles for individual improvement #prodmgmttalk -3:59 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valworkman is process agnostic - would place ideation inside market sensing... #prodmgmttalk -3:58 PM Jan 9th, 2012

cindyfsolomon @valworkman is process agnostic - would place ideation inside market sensing... #prodmgmttalk -3:58 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @brainmates 1. ideation 2. biz model generation 3. cust discovery 4. product design 5. market planning 6. launch 7. day-day #prodmgmttalk -3:57 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Welcome @CathyLiggett #prodmgmttalk -3:56 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon We're still early - please introduce yourself and where you're tweeting from, your involvement w/ #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -3:56 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates 7 Pillars of #prodmgmt - Mkt Sensing, Pblm Validation, Opportunity Def, Feature Definition, Roadmapping, Requirements, Launch #prodmgmttalk -3:55 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon 7 Pillars: 1. market sensing 2. problm validation 3. opportty definition 4. feature definition 5. Roadmapping 6. Req 7. Launch #prodmgmttalk -3:55 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon @valwalkman already running with What are the 7 Pillars of #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -3:54 PM Jan 9th, 2012


CathyLiggett RT @cindyfsolomon: Join us for #prodmgmttalk TweetChat at: http://t.co/HUf4wwix #prodmgmttalk -3:54 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon News! Global Product Management Talk Mobile App in the Android Marketplace! http://t.co/z8BTHXcl #prodmgmttalk -3:53 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Join us for #prodmgmttalk TweetChat at: http://t.co/HUf4wwix #prodmgmttalk -3:51 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Chatting w/ @valworkman and @brainmates in preparation for today's talk! #prodmgmttalk -3:51 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Starting in 24 mins RT @ValWorkman: Will be talking about how #prodmgmt principles are used to build people as products. #prodmgmttalk -3:44 PM Jan 9th, 2012


brainmates Starting in 24 mins RT @ValWorkman: Will be talking about how #prodmgmt principles are used to build people as products. #prodmgmttalk -3:36 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Today's Global Product Management Talk podcast http://t.co/Tnm9Qtlj #prodmgmttalk -3:34 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon You can listen when we go live http://t.co/Tnm9Qtlj #prodmgmttalk -3:32 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Ugh - Skype has an update - but not working...no worries - we can still broadcast. Today's links: http://t.co/6bgHpqId #prodmgmttalk -3:32 PM Jan 9th, 2012


ValWorkman This is very exciting. Testing everything for tonights talk. #prodmgmttalk -3:25 PM Jan 9th, 2012


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MacMyDay Survey: What's Best day/time for you to participate in #prodmgmttalk ? http://t.co/3i8mGeQV #prodmgmt -2:45 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @PCAustin Today! how #prodmgmt principles are used 2 build people as products.Love to hear your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -2:43 PM Jan 9th, 2012


PCAustin RT @cindyfsolomon: Today! how #prodmgmt principles are used 2 build people as products.Love to hear your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -2:30 PM Jan 9th, 2012


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cindyfsolomon Check out "Global Product Management Talk @ProdMgmtTalk #ProdMgmtTalk" on Jan 9th. RSVP at http://t.co/tNeWJ7Nc #prodmgmttalk #twvt -1:45 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon Jan 9, 2012: Val Workman @valworkman Launches Global Product Management Talk 2012 With... http://t.co/tNeWJ7Nc #prodmgmttalk #twvt -1:45 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @rcauvin: RT @ValWorkman Today! how #prodmgmt principles are used 2 build people as products.Love to hear your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -1:23 PM Jan 9th, 2012


ProdMgmtTalk Today! The Seven Pillars of Product Management & You! w/ Val Workman @valworkman: http://t.co/joksPNv2 #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -1:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012


rcauvin RT @ValWorkman Today! how #prodmgmt principles are used to build people as products. Love to here your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -1:04 PM Jan 9th, 2012


cindyfsolomon RT @ValWorkman Today! how #prodmgmt principles are used to build people as products. Love to here your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -12:50 PM Jan 9th, 2012


ValWorkman Will be talking about how #prodmgmt principles are used to build people as products. Love to here your thoughts on #prodmgmttalk -12:11 PM Jan 9th, 2012
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