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[2007] Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền - War of Money - Park Jin Hee, Park Shin Yang - SBS Drama Awards 2007 Grand Prize

Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền

Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền

War Of Monney (2007)

  • Quốc gia:Phim Hàn Quốc
  • Thể loại:phim tình cảm
  • Thời lượng:16 tập
  • Trạng thái:Full 16 tập VietSub Thuyết minh
  • Tập tiếp theo:
  • Diễn viên:Park Shin Yang, Park Jin Hee, Kim Jung Hwa, Shin Dong Wook
  • Đạo diễn:Jang Tae-yoo,
  • Năm phát hành:2007
Phim Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền nói về cuộc sống đầy sóng gió của Keum Na Ra biến anh thành một con người máu lạnh và tham gia vào việc cho vay năng lãi. Câu chuyện bắt đầu khi anh là một thanh niên gần như có tất cả, gia đình vông việc và cả cô bạn gái xinh đẹp. Thế rồi sóng gió ập đến khi ngày cưới em gái anh bọn gian hồ kéo đến đòi nợ vì thật sự công ty của ba anh đã vay nợ của bọn chúng. Phim Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền bắt đầu cuộc sống khốn khổ của anh khi ba đi trốn nợ, mẹ nằm bệnh viện không tiền phẫu thuật, mất việc và mất luôn bạn gái. Rồi nỗi đau đi đến tột cùng khi mẹ anh qua đời cùng lúc anh tự vẫn, cuộc sống lang thang làm anh vô tình gặp ông già nổi tiếng trong giới cho vay nặng lãi thế là anh theo ông ta học nghề để đòi lại tất cả. Phim Cuộc Chiến Kim Tiền đến đây cũng là cuộc gặp định mệnh của anh với tình yêu mới Seo Joo Hee khi cô là đi vay tiền của anh...

Cuộc chiến kim tiền (Hangul쩐의 전쟁Romaja quốc ngữJjeonui Jeonjaeng là một bộ phim truyền hình Hàn Quốc 2007 dựa trên manhwa cùng tên của Park In-kwo với sự tham gia của diễn viên Park Shin-yang và Park Jin-hee,[1][2] Phim chiếu trên SBS từ 16 tháng 5 đến 19 tháng 7 năm 2007 vào mỗi thứ 4&5 lúc 21:55 gồm 20 tập.

Phân vai

Nhân vật chính

Nhân vật phụ

  • Shin Goo vai Dokgo Chul
  • Lee Won-jong vai Ma Dong-po
  • Lee Young-eun vai Geum Eun-ji
  • Jung Jae-soon vai Lee Kyung-ja
  • Nam Il-woo vai Geum Sang-soo
  • Park In-hwan vai Seo In-chul
  • Jung Soo-young vai Kim Hyun-jung
  • Jang Dong-jik vai Kang In-hyuk
  • Yeo Woon-kay vai Madam Bong
  • Kim Roi-ha vai Kim Dong-goo
  • Kim Hyung-bum vai Jo Chul-soo
  • Lee Jae-yong vai Oh Jae-bong
  • Choi Sung-ho vai Lee Young-suk
  • Kim Kwang-sik vai Soo-pyo
  • Kim Hee-jung vai vợ của Dong po
  • Min Ji-young vai Eun-joo
  • Lee Byung-joon vai Kim Min-goo
  • Im Sung-eun as swindler

Giải thưởng và đề cử

NămGiảiThể loạiNgười nhậnKết quả
2007
SBS Drama Awards[3]
Daesang (Grand Prize)Park Shin-yangĐoạt giải
Top Excellence Award, ActressPark Jin-heeĐoạt giải
Best Supporting Actor in a MiniseriesLee Won-jongĐoạt giải
Best Supporting Actress in a MiniseriesKim Jung-hwaĐề cử
New Star AwardShin Dong-wookĐoạt giải
Lee Young-eunĐoạt giải
Top 10 StarsPark Shin-yangĐoạt giải
Park Jin-heeĐoạt giải
Netizen Popularity AwardPark Shin-yangĐoạt giải
Achievement AwardShin GooĐoạt giải
2008
44th Baeksang Arts Awards
Best DramaWar of MoneyĐề cử
Best Director (TV)Jang Tae-yooĐề cử
Best Actor (TV)Park Shin-yangĐoạt giải
Best Actress (TV)Park Jin-heeĐề cử


Keum Na Ra (Park Shin Yang) tưởng như đã có tất cả trong tay: một gia đình hạnh phúc, một công việc ổn định, một cô bạn gái xinh đẹp đáng yêu (Kim Jung Hwa đóng). Đúng vào ngày cưới của em gái anh, bọn cho vay nặng lãi đến phá hỏng đám cưới, thì ra vì công ty bố anh đã vay bọn chúng tới 500 triệu won, lãi mẹ đẻ lãi con, ông không có khả năng thanh toán. 
Từ đó cuộc đời Na Ra đã hoàn toàn thay đổi. Bố anh phải trốn nợ. Bọn cho vay nặng lãi cứ bám riết lấy anh. Cuối cùng nhà cũng phải giao cho bọn chúng, anh thì bị đuổi việc, mẹ anh ốm nằm viện không có tiền làm phẫu thuật, cô bạn gái cũng phải chia tay. Sau đó anh nhận được tin bố tự tử chết, mẹ cũng không được cứu sống. Chỉ vì đồng tiền mà một lúc phải chịu hai cái tang, còn anh bị hất ra bên lề cuộc sống. 

Mong ước giản dị có cuộc sống bình yên đã không mỉm cười khi anh cùng lúc chứng kiến sự ra đi của cha mẹ mình. Từ một người hiền lành, Nara biến thành một kẻ lạnh lùng và tàn nhẫn. Giờ đây, không có gì quan trọng hơn tiền, Nara tìm mọi cách kiếm được thật nhiều tiền và anh trở thành kẻ cho vay nặng lãi khét tiếng là tàn nhẫn trước con nợ. Chấp nhận cuộc đời mới, Na ra chia tay với quá khứ cùng cô bạn gái Lee Cha Yeon (Kim Jung Hwa đóng ) xinh đẹp. 



Trong những ngày lang thang anh tình cờ gặp được ông già được coi là truyền kỳ của giới cho vay nặng lãi và anh quyết tâm theo ông học nghề, để đòi lại những gì đã mất. 

Suh Joo Kyung vì phải giải quyết nợ nần cho gia đình nên phải đi vay nợ và cô đã gặp kẻ cho vay máu lạnh và tàn nhẫn Kim Peu Ro, trong quá trình tiếp xúc cả hai đã nảy sinh tình yêu...

Tuy nhiên, Na ra không thể hình dung được có một ngày con tim anh thêm một lần nữa rung động trước một người con gái. Đó là Suh Joo Hee(Park Jin Hee đóng) Không thể ngồi yên nhìn cảnh gia đình nheo nhóc, cô chấp nhận cưới người đàn ông có thể làm thay đổi cuộc đời gia đình cô. Nhưng, hạnh phúc cũng không mỉm cười khi đám cưới của cô dình dáng đến kẻ cho vay tàn bạo Na ra.Vô cùng tức giận, Joo Hee căm ghét kẻ đã lấy đi hy vọng cuối cùng của cô. Tuy nhiên, cuộc gặp gỡ đã làm thay đổi cuộc sống của họ. Joo Hee cảm nhận được trong con người Nara vẫn có một trái tim ấm áp. Và Nara hiểu thêm từ cô gái nghị lực những điều có ý nghĩa hơn cả đồng tiền trong cuộc sống. Tình yêu đến với họ nhẹ nhàng nhưng gặp nhiều trắc trở. Cô bạn gái Lee Cha Yeon trước đây của Geum Na Ra và Ha Woo Sung (Shin Dong Wook đóng) – người yêu của Suh Joo Hee luôn tìm cách giành lại những gì đã có của mình trước đây. 

Phim Hàn Quốc x 20 tập Kênh phát: Đài PT&TH Hà Nội Thời gian phát sóng: 11g hàng ngày trên kênh Hà Nội 2 Diễn viên: Park Shin Yang, (Park Jin Hee,Kim Jung Hwa, Shin Dong Wook H.C 

Profile

  • Movie: Money War
  • Revised romanization: JJeonui Jeonjaeng
  • Hangul: 쩐의 전쟁
  • Director: Jang Tae-Yoo
  • Writer: Park In-Kwon (comic), Lee Hyang-Hee
  • Network: SBS
  • Episodes: 20
  • Release Date: May 16 - July 19, 2007
  • Runtime: Wed. 21:55
  • Language: Korean
  • Country: South Korea

Plot

Two years ago, on the wedding day of Keum Eun-ji, who is Keum Na-ra (Park Shin-Yang)’s sister, loan sharks barge into the wedding hall and ruin the wedding, demanding that their father pay back the money he borrowed from them. But the father disappears, and the loan sharks move into the family’s home and demand that they find their father. Na-ra declares personally bankruptcy and gets fired from his job. He tries to borrow money from his friends but none of them offer any help. Na-ra’s mother falls ill after seeing her son suffer from the debt collectors. To earn money for his mother’s surgery, Na-ra goes to see his friend In-hyuk, where he encounters Seo Joo-hee (Park Jin-Hee) for the first time. Instead of lending money to Na-ra, In-hyuk insults him. Finally, Na-ra decides to ask his rich lover Cha-yeon (Kim Jeong-Hwa) for help. Wishing to test his love, Cha-yeon’s grandmother offers him a great amount of money if he agrees to leave her granddaughter. When he chooses the money over her granddaughter, she becomes furious and tips off the debt collectors that Na-ra is carrying money with him. Na-ra’s mother undergoes surgery, but when she learns that her husband committed suicide, she becomes overcome with grief and eventually dies. The furious Na-ra barges into the Buddhist temple that his mother used to pray at and vandalizes the place. Seo Joo-hee’s father and Na-ra’s high school teacher, Seo In-chul, tries to look for his friend who is homeless. By chance, he finds Keum Na-ra on the street. Seo In-chul learns about Na-ra’s family crisis and lets him stay over at his home. Later that night, Na-ra sneaks out of In-chul’s house and encounters Joo-hee again. Na-ra vows to become rich, and learns that Dokgo Chul is the richest loan shark in town. Na-ra decides to learn his secrets on becoming rich. Learning that Ma Dong-po has the most cashflow among loan sharks, Na-ra goes to meet him. Little does he know that Ma Dong-po is the very person who pressures his father to commit suicide. Meanwhile, Seo Joo-hee is insulted by Ma Dong-po, who lent money to her father, and just then, Keum Na-ra’s junior high school friend Kang In-hyuk, who is a rich divorced man, appears and asks her to marry him. Keum Na-ra and Ma Dong-po decide to go into business together. As Ma Dong-po becomes wealthier thanks to Na-ra’s hustling skills as a debt collector, he begins to trust him. Ma Dong-po orders Na-ra to collect the debts that Joo-hee’s father owes him. In her desperation to pay off her father’s debts, Joo-hee decides to marry In-hyuk for his money. However, on the wedding day, when In-hyuk swears that he will not pay back the money that Joo-hee’s father owes, Na-ra ruins the wedding just like how his sister’s wedding was ruined two years ago.

Notes

  1. Based on the comic series "Jjeonui Jeonjaeng" by Park In-Kwon (first published December, 2004 by Samyang Publisher).
  2. Related titles:
    1. War of Money | JJeonui Jeonjaeng (SBS / 2007)
    2. War of Money | Zeni no Senso (Fuji TV / 2015)

Cast

Money War-Park Shin-Yang.jpgMoney War-Park Jin-Hee.jpgMoney War-Kim Jeong-Hwa.jpgMoney War-Shin Dong-Wook.jpg
Park Shin-YangPark Jin-HeeKim Jung-HwaShin Dong-Wook
Geum Na-RaSeo Joo-HeeLee Cha-YeonHa Woo-Sung
Money War-Shin Goo.jpgMoney War-Lee Won-Jong.jpgMoney War-Lee Young-Eun.jpgMoney War-Jeong Jae-Sun.jpgMoney War-Nam Il-Woo.jpg
Shin GooLee Won-JongLee Young-EunJeong Jae-SunNam Il-Woo
Dok Ko CheolMa Dong-PoGeum Eun-JiLee Kyung-JaGeum Sang-Soo
Money War-Park In-Hwan.jpgMoney War-Jeong Su-Yeong (1982).jpgMoney War-Jang Dong-Jik.jpgMoney War-Yeo Woon-Kye.jpgMoney War-Kim Roe-Ha.jpg
Park In-HwanJung Soo-YoungJang Dong-JikYeo Woon-KyeKim Roe-Ha
Seo In-CheolKim Hyun-JungKang In-HyukMrs. Bonggangster

Additional Cast Members:

War of Money

Main Characters 
Geum Na Ra - Park Shin Yang 
Shin Dong Wook - Ha Woo Sung 
Lee Cha Yeon - Kim Jung Hwa 
Seo Joo Hee - Park Jin Hee

Storyline

Geum Na Ra became a ruthless money-lender after his parents died because they were unable to return borrowed money from private money lenders. As a result, he broke off with his then-girlfriend Lee Cha Yeon for money (later we will find out that this was not the real reason). Seo Joo Hee's father owed a huge sum of money to private money-lenders and therefore she was forced to marry a rich man to pay her father's debts. Geum Na Ra came and ruined the wedding, thus she has much dislike for the man. She vowed to take revenge on him but ended up falling for Geum Na Ra instead.

Shin Dong Wook is a handsome young man who works for Lee Cha Yeon's grandmother. He grew up in an orphanage and had learned the art of money lending with the same mentor as Geum Na Ra. He likes Lee Cha Yeon and always tries to do things to win her affections.

Thoughts

I think Lee Cha Yeon is quite pitiful, she was so in love with Geum Na Ra but because she came from a rich household, along with a grandmother that looked down on Geum Na Ra, she was dumped for money (well, as in the money made the break up earlier even if Geum Na Ra did not totally love her!). And even though towards the end, money was not really the reason for the break up, she still has my sympathy. And Geum Na Ra was really mean to her later, so I do not really blame her developing hatred for Geum Na Ra. At the end, I admired her for letting Geum Na Ra go as she realized he did not choose her over money because he did not love her.

Seo Joo Hee irritates me a little. At the beginning of the drama, she was always commenting on how pretty she is in the show but frankly, I think Lee Cha Yeon is prettier. Of course, I understand that the dialogues are written in the script and that self-love issues have nothing to do with the actress.

Geum Na Ra's transition from a normal office worker to a ruthless money lender was portrayed very well by Park ShinYang. He was able to show just how evil human beings can be when they are desperate. I think he looks very cool in his new look in the show but I really miss him in a suit and tie.

Unfortunately, I do not feel any huge chemistry going on between the two main characters in the show. Park Shin Yang and Park Jin Hee did not manage to bring out the shivers down my spine when they look at each other. Maybe I had too many expectations for a money lending themed drama series, as I had really enjoyed Park Shin Yang's previous theme show "Lovers In Paris" and had the full impact of chemistry between him and Kim Jung Eun. On another hand, the authors of the drama might just want the audiences to focus on the theme, which was about money lenders in Korea. Thus this might be why they did not focus too much on the romance part of the show.

Private moneylenders in South Korea is actually quite a common thing in the country. My Korean friend told me that usually they will charge 30% to 200% of the amount borrowed and that they will even kill each other to get more money to lend to people and also even for revenge. In Singapore where I am from, we call them loan sharks.

I am not sure if Geum Na Ra’s ways of claiming back borrowed money are realistic or if any real money lenders have ever done those things before. In the drama, his version of claiming back borrowed money is relatively ingenious and humane, although some are quite absurd (like when he pretended to be a beggar to “steal” another beggar’s “customers” so as to force him to return money). Nevertheless I do enjoy the different gimmicks that were revealed as Geum Na Ra got through different money borrowers.

Ok, I hate bad endings. The ending in this drama was not what I expected (yes, it's like a cliffhanger, so it is bad.). Maybe the writers or directors of the show want to convey the message that money lenders are evil and they will not result in a good ending.

I would give the drama a rating of four stars because, although I do enjoy Park Shin Yang’s acting skills, I was uncomfortable with the relationship of the two main characters. Despite that, this drama is a must-watch for Park Shin Yang’s fans. 

War of Money / Money Warfare

by javabeans

 
SBS’s new Wednesday-Thursday drama, War of Money (쩐의 전쟁), kicked off to a healthy ratings start in the 16%-17% range, then jumped up to above 24% for its second episode. That’s enough of a leap to be considered noteworthy. (And anything above 20% in its first week is quite a feat.)

This drama had quite some buzz leading up to its premiere, probably mostly due to the casting of lead actor Park Shin Yang, who is perhaps best known for his role in Lovers in Paris. As for me, the only actor I’m familiar with is Shin Dong Wook, from Cloud Stairway and Soulmate.

 SONG OF THE DAY

War of Money OST – “Simple Life” by Sweet Sorrow
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PRODUCTION

Director Jung Tae Yoo / 정새유 :: Bad Family, 101st Proposal
Writer Lee Hyang Hee / 이향희 :: Solace, Loveholic

Official website: http://tv.sbs.co.kr/warofmoney/

CAST

Park Shin Yang / 박신양 :: Lovers in Paris
Park Jin Hee / 박진희 :: Come Back, Soon Ae
Kim Jung Hwa / 김정화 :: Something about 1%, Into the sunlight, Snow White
Shin Dong Wook / 신동욱 :: Soulmate, Goodbye Sadness, Cloud Stairway

First broadcast: May 16

Here’s the thing. Episode 1 of War of Money pissed me off. I almost quit entirely because I figured it wasn’t healthy for my blood pressure.

It’s not a bad show. The director is competent, the acting is good. It’s the story that got my blood boiling. I’m sure it was meant to, but I didn’t respond to it.











The setup is this: A man (Park Shin Yang’s Geum Na Ra character) lives a nice life with a lovely family. Gorgeous, caring girlfriend Lee Cha Yeon. Younger sister getting happily married. Decent job. (He has an interesting choice of name, since Na Ra is traditionally feminine. His father explains that he named him Na Ra because of its meaning — “nation” — hoping for his son’s successful future.)

But his sister’s wedding is ruined by loan sharks who come to collect money from Na Ra’s father, and they realize his father’s indebted up to his eyeballs. Or more. He’s so in debt his shadow owes rent. The amount is in excess of 500 million won and the house is being repossessed. Na Ra’s father runs away, naively believing that if he disappears, the lenders will leave his family alone. (But it sure is cowardly.) His mother collapses from the strain and requires surgery. Na Ra’s denied a bank loan. Nobody will lend him money, and he’s bordering on being fired. He’s desperate. Life sucks.

Initially, he rejects money offered by his rich girlfriend Cha Yeon. But with the situation spiraling out of control, he asks for her help. She happily offers, but her grandmother (who was in Bad Family and just finished up her role in Hello! Miss) has always disliked Na Ra, and offers him the money if he will leave Cha Yeon. He refuses.

But then, he gets the call that the hospital is about to kick their mother out without surgery. They don’t even have a house to return to. What to do?

So Na Ra takes the deal. Upon hearing about this, Cha Yeon goes to Na Ra to try to reason with him — she knows why he was forced into this. But Na Ra tells her he means it. He didn’t know he was the type of guy who could sell out his love for money, but right now he needs money more than her. And as one last parting insult, he asks Cha Yeon as she’s leaving him if she has any money she can lend him. (One of the few scenes I really liked, because it was so ballsy and desperate.) She flings all the cash she’s carrying at him, then stalks off in a fury.

 

Oh yeah, and then his father dies. Presumably suicide. 

There’s more that goes on — the female lead, Seo Ju Hee (played by Park Jin Hee) is perhaps the only character I remotely like (and I find the actress stunning, in a girl-next-door way), but her problems are also entirely money-based and somewhat cliched (“I don’t trust men anymore; I only trust money”).

I appreciate a thematically relevant drama, but it felt like the series was trying to hammer in the “money warfare” theme a little too hard. We get it. But my biggest block with this series is entirely a personal-opinion issue, NOT a quality issue. Judge for yourselves if you like it, because I’m sure some will. I just personally found it too depressing. Everything seemed so real (just more dire). Maybe I’m too used to seeing or hearing about people’s money desperations and woes in real life to find any entertainment value in watching it unfold onscreen.

But this may perhaps explain the appeal of the show to Koreans (aside from sadomasochism?) — these private loans and debts are a huge problem in Korean society these days, and I’m sure everyone can relate, sadly enough. 

After vowing not to watch any more after the first episode, I decided to give the show another try. Partly because I wanted to see Shin Dong Wook act as a coldhearted badass and partly because I loved the PD’s prior work Bad Family(which is another show that started slow but ended up fantastic).

So I watched Episode 2, and it IS a little less with the hissy-fitting and a little more with the proactive bootstraps-pulling — but not before we kick Na Ra down some more:

His mother dies too, Na Ra loses everything, becomes homeless, and constantly runs from the loan sharks. His sister (Song Hye Gyo’s friend from Full House) sells herself to a hostess bar because she can’t stand being a burden to her new husband and her brother.

Na Ra begs a famous moneylender for money advice, and embarks in Karate Kid-like lessons on the meaning of money and human nature.

It got better, but overall my opinion didn’t change.

This is a decent show. But I don’t like it. That’s all right with me. I’m sure there will be some people who love the show for reasons that I dislike it. It looks poised to become a sure hit, so I foresee lots of continued press and attention given to War of Money.

With S2 will be fansubbing this drama (you can check on the wiki site for updates on subbing status) so if this is your cup of tea, enjoy.

War of Money ending

*spoilers*******************

I really don't see why people keep complaining that the ending sucked. It may be a bit unclear if he died or not but I read that manga hasn't ended yet either so maybe screenwriter wanted to make an open ending. I believe that after receiving such hits Na Ra definitely died (though he is Koerans superman number 3 so I can never be sure). I'm just disappointed it was Dong Po. Who elese could it be? I really don't have anyone in mind but Dong Po... Guess they wanted to show how he had completely lost himself to money. That without money he just couldn't live and the shock of losing 5 millions was too much. He jsut went crazy... And not even a good deed Na Ra made for him could purify his heart. I believed Dong Po was stronger than that. I liked his character a lot though he was evil. At first I believed that the killer would be the mafia guy. But he was more like a comical character. I really pity him when his stolen money got stolen in such a way xD Over all I liked him too. Talked big but couldn't do anything that well. Another thing that bothered me was Woo Sung's destiny. What happened to him after he lost to Na Ra? Where did he go? What did he do?

Lee Won Jong as Ma Dong Po did a great job. I was sure I had seen him before and well. There he was in Bodyguard. I finally found a place where I can dl this ridiculous but addicting drama^^ Back to War of Money. At first I totally fell for Park Shin Yang. But then I noticed that his acting was bit stiff or more like unilateral. Nevertheless I really liked him. But this time women leads made a good impression on me. Park Jin Hee and Kim Jeong Hwa good job. I was a bit sceptical about Kim Jeong Hwa at first but I learned to like her. Still her character was a bit wasted. She kept trying to do things but never succeeded. Also Na Ra's and Cha Yeon's passsionate love realtionship ended a bit too fast. In the next episode it was like they never dated. Cha Yeon was sad but Na Ra had forgotten her totally. I understand he had to keep his promise but what about being sad even for a bit? (though he really didn't have time for that, heh)

Na Ra's and Joo hee's relationship was sweet. They had good chemistry but romance was a bit lacking in whole drama. I don't mind because it was a very interesting drama anyways. I hated Joo Hee's dad. He was so typical Kdrama dad that it annoyed me to hell. Only thinking about himself. "My daughter won't be happy with that man" and going around asking Na Ra such favors. What about Joo Hee's feelings?!! After Na Ra helped them out so much how could that senile old man...?! T_T I'm glad he gave up in the end. The last scene when Na Ra and Joo Hee saw each other and he said he will come back soon and she asked him not to leave. IT WAS SO OBVIOIS! Couldn't they make it more obvious?

And there was this "bitten by money ghost" thing I never got. In my opinion what Na Ra did I really didn't see him being driven by money in his actions. His friend was driven by money and everyoen else except Joo Hee was driven by money but not Na Ra. And is that much money only 5 million. I believe Dong Po had much more in that pile. or were those some really small bills?

Anyways. The ending was powerful. It was like a real end. Na Ra's story in a nuthsell. In the first place it was only about Na Ra, his story ended here so the end. Though made me wonder what happened afterwards. Overall I really loved this drama and it's now one of my favorites. I woudl suggest anyone to watch t becuase it's really exciting. Maybe it was a bit mangalike with some filler chapters xD but it was definitely worth watching and made me think a lot about money and our lives. How connected everything is to money and how money rule our lives. Also, it wasn't just any typical Kdrama. For example when characters accidently met it was portrayed very naturally and I didn't feel like "yeah, of course..."

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