Joseph MacMenamin(1877)

 We are looking for information on
Bernard & Joseph's Father and Mother
https://sites.google.com/site/macmenaminfamily/bernard-joseph_parents
they lived in England, The MacMenamin's left Ireland during the Potato Famine - Joseph married Mary and along with Mary's brother came to Dublin and started the Tie Company.

Bernard went to Dublin and married Alice Gerard, They had three children, then left for America https://sites.google.com/site/macmenaminfamily/Ireland
 Joseph Patrick MacMenamin (1877) is the older brother of Bernard John Brian MacMenamin(1880)  (some references in Peter's tree say Joseph & Bernard were 1/2 brothers?? )

Any information about their life in England and before that Ireland would be greatly appreciated.
JilMac 802-254-8628  or by eMail Jil@JilMac.com
Joseph+Mary_MacMenamin Joseph & Mary MacMenamin

Joseph(1877) is Bernard's (1880) older brother.
     
Joseph (Birth 1877)  and Mary (Birth 1880-1920) (Nee Corcoran) met in London – in the Bermondsey area that you mention in respect of Bernard.  Shortly after their marriage in London – St Olafe’s church in Southwark (now gone) – same area of London – they came back to Ireland – and you located the record of them in the 1911 census – living in Washington St.
 
 
     Joseph set up a tie making company in Dublin shortly after arriving here, his first venture was in boot polish – not certain whether he set up a company or was employed in one – I think the former but if it was it didn’t last – so the tie company came next – called the Central Tie Company, CTC.   The CTC – developed a women’s section – started by Mary – this section of the business was called Cetecia – women’s night wear and underwear.  This lasted for Joseph’s life time.   They sold the company on their retirement some time in the 1980s.  On the 1911 Irish census you will see listed one Henry Corcoran listed as a lodger; he was Mary’s oldest brother and is listed in London in 1901 aged 24 as a tie cutter and again in Dublin 1911 age 34 – also tie cutter and it would appear that he brought the tie making skill into the company.
From the Ireland, Census, 1911 - Irish Heritage Collection 
NAME: Joseph Mac Menamin
SPOUSE: Mary Mac Menamin
BIRTH: abt 1877
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Washington St., Merchant's Quay, Dublin, Ireland

 
We believe this is Joseph & Mary MacMenamin's wedding Photo
 

We believe this is Joseph & Mary MacMenamin's wedding Photo

JosephMacMenamin-Family

Joseph & Mary with their 7 children
     Joseph, listed himself, his wife Mary and his lodger Henry (Corcoran - Mary's brother) as being born in Dublin.  They were not, they were clearly born in London.  I can only guess at why this error was entered but I do not believe that it was a simple error, neither do any of my relatives that I have asked.  I think it had to do with the political times and the republican movement.  He was not directly involved in an active sense but would certainly have supported Irish Nationalism – as indeed did his brother Bernard it appears. 
    The other curious thing is that he does not appear to be listed in any census in the UK yet he clearly lived there – indeed I see no record of Bernard in the UK either.  Someone earlier had left Ireland in or around the famine times from a village called Kesh in Co Fermanagh – now in N Ireland.  I don’t know Joseph & Bernard’s parents names – though Joseph seems a good guess.
 Son #2 John MacMenamin (Born 1910)
John – Married Oonagh McDowell 
He worked in the family businesses: Central Tie Company, CTC, and it's division Cetecia women's night ware & undergarments.

http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2012/03/new-judges-9185-copy-630x411.jpgTheir son John is a Judge of the Irish High Court


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_MacMenamin
 
Joseph MacMenamin (Born 1912)
Joseph – married Carmel Moran – 4 children

two of Joseph & Carmel's children are in America
Hugh has 4 children:
  1. Joe - Married Cecil (O'Brien) of Sandymount, Dublin Ireland.  Children:  Sarah & Anna, Grandchildren:  Isabel & Sophie Jo
  2. _____
  3. Hugh (USA-Jil has skyped & emailed)
  4. Paula (USA-Jil has Skyped & emailed 
 Son Number 3 
Brendan  (1914-April 1996)
Brendon MacMenamin's Business Card from Central Tie Co.
Central Tie Co pocket Diary used by John W. MacMenamin
Brendan married Evelyn Sullivan – 2 natural children  + 2 adopted daughters (One died)

He worked in the family businesses: Central Tie Company, CTC, and it's division Cetecia women's night ware & undergarments.

Peter and JilMac have been corrisponding.  Peter still lives in Dublin and Peter's son Paul lives in Long Island.


 Daughter No1 
Cecelia (Cis) Mary [Marie] (MacMenamin) Maguire   Dec 2, 1907
Cecelia, Married song writer Leo Maguire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Maguire),
http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Leo_Maguire
they had  4 children

Parish:  St. Joseph's Terenure, Dublin Ireland
 
Daughter #2
 
Helen (Ella) 94  dob: 2017-  dod: Apr 4, 2011
Helen(Ella) single with no children 

She worked in the family businesses: Central Tie Company, CTC, and it's division Cetecia women's night ware & undergarments.

http://findingaids.nationalarchives.ie/index.php?simpleSearchSbm=true&category=1&subcategory=9&searchDescTxt=+macmenamin&simpleSearchSbm=Search#searchfocus

Formerly of Wasdale Park, Terenure, Dublin and Leeson Park Nursing Home to The Redemptorist Community Chapel,
Marianella, 75 Orwell Road, Rathgar, arriving at 10.55am for 11am Funeral Mass and afterwards to Deans Grange Cemetery
 
Daughter #3
Alice (born 1915-2014)
Alice – Married Dr. Dermot Roden (Perth, Australia)– Medical Dr and 11 children (2 deceased)

Alice RODEN (née MacMenamin)
Ballsbridge, Dublin

Alice (Ballsbridge, Dublin) peacefully at home; dearly beloved wife of the late Dr. Dermot Roden and mother of 
  1. Dermot (dod:  June 11, 2008) married Ruth Cullity  
  2. Mary (Legge)
  3. Francis
  4. Brigid, (the late) 
  5. Colette (Ellison) 
  6. Alice 
  7. Anne-Marie (Ward) 
  8. Catherine (White)
  9. Louise
  10. Michael (the late) 
  11. Mark (the late) 

sister of Mrs. Margaret Chamberlain. 
Sadly missed by all her family, grandchildren, great- grandchildren, relatives and friends. Funeral Mass on Saturday morning (25th January) at 10.00 o’c in St. Mary’s Church, Haddington Road and afterwards to Shanganagh Cemetery. House private. “Thy Kingdom come”


 
Daughter #4
 
Margaret MacMenamin Chamberlain dod: 12/22/2016 at the age of 90
married Tom Chamberlain – 7 children (one deceased) 

CHAMBERLAIN (née MacMenamin) Margaret (Donnybrook, Dublin) December 22nd 2016 (peacefully) at home. 

Beloved wife of the late Tom and darling mother of 

  1.   Tom
  2.   Ally
  3.   Lucy
  4.   Paul
  5.   Clare
  6.   Sarah 
  7.   Ruth

Much loved by her family, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law, her treasured grandchildren, great-grandchildren, nieces, nephews, extended family and friends.

Rest in peace

 

Reposing on Friday, December 23rd, at her home from 5.00 until 7.00pm. Removal on Saturday to the Church of the Sacred Heart, Donnybrook, arriving at 9.50am for Requiem Mass at 10.00am, followed by burial at Shanganagh Cemetery. All enquires to Fanagans Funeral Directors, Donnybrook on (01) 215 3980.

 

"suaimhneas síoraí dá hanam agus ceol na n-aingeal go gcloise sí"

  
  
  

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Web: Ireland, Census, 1911IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Joseph Mac Menamin
SPOUSE: Mary Mac Menamin
BIRTH: abt 1877
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Washington St., Merchant's Quay, Dublin, Ireland
Web: Ireland, Census, 1911IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary Mac Menamin
SPOUSE: Joseph Mac Menamin
BIRTH: abt 1880
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Washington St., Merchant's Quay, Dublin, Ireland
Web: Ireland, Census, 1911IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: John Mac Menamin
BIRTH: abt 1910
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Washington St., Merchant's Quay, Dublin, Ireland
Web: Ireland, Census, 1901IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Jerry Mac Menamin
BIRTH: abt 1883
RESIDENCE: 31 Mar 1901 - Stranorlar Town, Stranorlar, Donegal, Ireland
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Paul F Chamberlain
MOTHER: Mac Menamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Margaret Maguire
MOTHER: Mac Menamin
BIRTH: date - township

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary MacMenamin
BIRTH: year
DEATH: dd mm 1920 - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary MacMenamin
BIRTH: year
DEATH: dd mm 1920 - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Patrick MacMenamin
BIRTH: year
DEATH: dd mm 1924 - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Bernard MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Margaret MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Michael MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Elizabeth MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Margaret MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Joseph Patrick MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Maire Cecelia MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Alice MacMenamin
MARRIAGE: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary Josephine MacMenamin
BIRTH: year - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Patrick B MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Brian MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary Cecilia MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Bridget J MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Patrick MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: John 1909 MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: John Daniel MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Brendan Mchl MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Patrick Joseph MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Alice MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Helen Agnes MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Bridget M MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Helen A MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Joseph P E MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Web: Ireland, Census, 1911IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Maggie Macmenamin
BIRTH: abt 1885
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Farrell Street, Kells Urban, Meath, Ireland
Web: Ireland, Census, 1911IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Patrick Macmenamin
BIRTH: abt 1885
RESIDENCE: 2 Apr 1911 - Farrell Street, Kells Urban, Meath, Ireland
Web: International, Find A Grave IndexIRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Cecily O'brien Macmenamin
DEATH: 17 Nov 2012
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: John M Maguire
MOTHER: MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Helen M Maguire
MOTHER: MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Mary A Roden
MOTHER: MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Catherine M Roden
MOTHER: MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958IRISH HERITAGE COLLECTION
NAME: Louise B Roden
MOTHER: MacMenamin
BIRTH: date - township

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