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The Ivatt Diesel Re-creation Society exists to right the wrong when 10000 and 10001 were scrapped in the 1960s.  The intention is to create 10000 once more using a genuine English Electric 16SVT engine and Class 58 locomotive 58022 as the chassis along with other English Electric parts from locos as they become available after retirement from main line use. 

The Society was formed in 2011 and as its President is honoured to have Mr Stanley Fletcher, a retired English Electric electrical engineer, who was involved in the commissioning trials for 10000.

The decision to build a new loco of this D16/1 type followed a detailed feasibility study by members which looked at viability and compatibility with present day legislation.  It is important to note that the loco will not be a precise copy of 10000.    We plan to build a locomotive that has the following key features:-

•     The exterior appearance of the original locomotive.

•     The sound of the original locomotive.

•     The original characteristics of the locomotive as far as reasonably practicable whilst maintaining operability, maintainability and compliance with modern standards.


The project is inevitably a lengthy and complex engineering undertaking, but is entirely achievable. 

We have evaluated one of 10000’s direct descendants in diesel locomotive design, the BR Class 58.   This study established the 58’s suitability as a basis on which to re-create 10000 and has confirmed many similarities between the two designs.  Both types of locos were designed at Derby, and some of the design staff were directly involved with both locomotive types.  Both designs were drafted utilising the same ‘backbone’ load bearing main frame construction principle.  Bogie centres are almost identical as is the distance between the cab bulkheads, and other critical dimensions.

Use of a Class 58 locomotive will reduce the time and cost of construction compared to a new build. It will also make possible the re-use of the mainframe, cooler group, and other parts towards a cost effective, maintainable and reliable core for the locomotive. 

The natural choice for bogies are those available from former a BR Class 77 and currently in the hands of the EM2 Society.  This design is almost identical to those of the D16/1 design.  An independent engineering assessment of their condition has been provided.  We have been in discussion with the EM2S over the years and are now fundraising in earnest.  

The bogies will fit the Class 58 chassis although some structural design work will be necessary since the Class 58 bogies design differs from that of conventional locos involving rolling rings and secondary springs. 

The English Electric 16SVT engine owned by the IDRS was originally built as a Rail Traction Locomotive power unit, on spec, for a potential overseas order, which was not confirmed.  When English Electric received an order from the Ministry of Defence for standby generating sets the engines already built were reallocated to the government order.  The unit was kept indoors and serviced regularly although it ran very low hours before sale to us.  Therefore it is almost as good as new! 


Timescale & Current status

The 16SVT engine and 58022 are both based at Rowsley South on the Peak Railway.  As of April 2018 we hope to meet Peak Rail in the immediate future to discuss future arrangements in detail.  This meeting should have already taken place but was thwarted by snow!

As a volunteer led project, completion of 10000 depends entirely on volunteer hours and donations.  The Society has so far attracted £63,000 worth of donations and owns the 16SVT power unit and class 58 locomotive outright. 

Much technical planning has been undertaken by dedicated volunteers, taking thousands of hours.  However the project has tended to struggle to publicise its work and encourage fresh interest.  From the summer of 2017 additional members have come on board, renewed the public face of the Society and invigorated fundraising. 

The process of construction begins with a necessary period collecting components, which although not visually appealing, is necessary preliminary stage before construction begins properly.  Stripping 58022 to its chassis and bogies is a task to be undertaken as soon as practical after which we can sell all unrequired parts.  Upon purchase of the correct style bogies, they will be stripped of the traction motors, overhauled and painted.  Meanwhile the search for components continues.  Options exist for which traction motors to fit to 10000, depending largely on availability of parts. 

At this stage, collection of components is of more of a priority than constructing the locomotive per se, even though such activity is not as photogenic. 

Time is of the essence.  Components from first generation diesel designs, particularly Classes 20 and 37 will only be available for a short time longer.  Hence the Society is now urgently fundraising for both bogies and other parts. 

 

Contact:         ivattdiesel@LMS10000.org 

www.LMS10000.org

Ivatt Diesel Re-creation Society, 46 Biddick Village Centre, Washington, NE38 7NP 

O755I62I685

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