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[18:11:11] <malanoche> Hi gays.
[18:11:22] <StStephen> and you know what?
[18:11:26] <zuck> The population of the world needs to come down, somewhat. of course, its our human moral duty to do what we can to support those who are currently alive.
[18:11:28] <howto> dootie ;)
[18:11:29] <StStephen> the most likely to survive the impending holocaust will be the wealthy
[18:11:31] <xartet> hey there's that faggot that poses for pictures with his lame guitars
[18:11:37] <StStephen> Gee, i thought money didn't matter in evolution
[18:11:43] <liveleigh> StStephen what's your favorite gd song
[18:11:51] <malanoche> Hey, there's that faggot with long unwashed hippiehair who takes it in the pooper.
[18:11:52] <malanoche> Hi xartet!
[18:11:55] <xartet> StStephen: who said that that is most likely?
[18:12:03] <madmin> money won't be worth much during a 'holocaust'
[18:12:10] <xartet> yeah really
[18:12:17] <StStephen> liveleigh: i can't narrow it down to one
[18:12:22] <malanoche> I never saw zuck for a "quality of life" over "quantity of God's children" type.
[18:12:22] <StStephen> xartet: i did.
[18:12:23] <zuck> money wont be worth that much during an alcoholocaust.
[18:12:36] <madmin> the poor redneck with 500 guns and 10000 rounds of ammo will be the rich man in that scenerio
[18:12:37] <StStephen> liveleigh: if you FORCED me to name one, i'd say Dark Star from 2/13/1970
[18:12:54] <zuck> Gods children?
[18:13:00] <malanoche> The most likely to survive the imminent Revolution are those of us with weapons and skill in using said weapons.
[18:13:01] <zuck> what do you think i am, a starchild?
[18:13:06] <malanoche> Among other things.
[18:13:20] <xartet> is the impending holocaust a result of evolution?
[18:13:40] <malanoche> Evolution is immaterial to sociopolitical warfare.
[18:13:41] <StStephen> liveleigh: but i don't know. there's too many good songs
[18:13:44] <liveleigh> StStephen i'd have to say my favorite is lady with a fan> terrapin
[18:13:54] <xartet> was the meteor that killed the dinosaurs a result of evolution???
[18:14:01] <StStephen> hm
[18:14:23] <StStephen> if we include segues I'd say from 2/13/70 dark star> other one, although they're 2 different songs
[18:14:29] <StStephen> oh shit, gotta go to a friend's house for poker
[18:14:31] <StStephen> adios
[18:14:33] <malanoche> No, xartet, it was the result of inertia.
[18:14:47] <xartet> of course i wont get an answer from him
[18:14:55] <liveleigh> i dunno though. there are so many. i really like new speedway boogie
[18:15:01] <malanoche> Someone recap the retardation so I don't need to go read rascuache's backscroll.
[18:15:10] <malanoche> Oh. Deadheads. Ptui.
[18:15:12] <zuck> according to the U.N., the world population trends DO show right now that they will decline in the long run, after cresting the 10-11 billion range. SO at roughly 10 billion we peak and then a slow decline. current trends and predictable trends already anticipate this. the key will be getting over the 10 billion mark without blowing ourselves to shit.
[18:15:12] <xartet> i'm being facetious, malanoche
[18:15:27] <liveleigh> haha
[18:15:27] <Roanoke> There is no imminent revolution.
[18:15:27] <howto> i will rule you all with an iron fist
[18:15:53] <xartet> no need, malanoche. StStephen called me dense because he thinks there's a money gene.
[18:15:53] <malanoche> zuck, there is no reason to believe there will be a plateau at 10 billion. It's nothing more than hyperoptimism and more than likely misguided.
[18:16:04] <malanoche> I'm guessing StStephen is bandini.
[18:16:06] <StStephen> xartet: that's not at all what i said
[18:16:08] <StStephen> you idiot.
[18:16:10] <StStephen> learn how to read.
[18:16:14] <xartet> heh
[18:16:15] <malanoche> Yeah. bandini calling someone dense is about the biggest lolocaust I can imagine.
[18:16:26] <StStephen> oh good one dorkryde
[18:16:32] <madmin> that is actually what he said, he just doesn't have the capacity to know that's what he said.
[18:16:35] <xartet> go play some poker, duder
[18:16:35] <malanoche> Like Neff calling someone fat or xartet calling someone bald.
[18:16:42] <StStephen> that's not at all what i said, madmin
[18:16:45] <Roanoke> Malanoche : Zuck is right. The birth rate is curbing.
[18:16:53] <StStephen> go take some reading comprehension classes.
[18:16:54] <malanoche> Roanoke, in the first world, yes.
[18:16:57] <StStephen> for christ's sake.
[18:17:05] <malanoche> There simply aren't enough statistics to make that call for the vast majority of the world's population.
[18:17:06] <Roanoke> In every worlds.
[18:17:11] <malanoche> Cite?
[18:17:19] <zuck> malanoche, the main assumptions are: china continues its successful one child policy, that the current link between affluence and declining birth rates holds, and that the worlds GDP/capita continues to increase at or near the increases over the last 100 years.
[18:17:24] <malanoche> Last I saw the eastern hemisphere was still a fucking rathole breeding ground.
[18:17:28] <StStephen> see ya leigh
[18:17:31] <StStephen> bye roanoke
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[18:17:41] <StStephen> the rest of you fuckers should burn in a fire.
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[18:17:45] <malanoche> zuck, China is going to bow to pressure over that given the number of foibles they've let surface in recent years.
[18:18:03] <zuck> the main fact is of course the link between affluence and birth rate
[18:18:11] <malanoche> India, the SECOND largest population on the planet, has continually flied in the face of that "affluence = declining birth rate" myth.
[18:18:16] <Roanoke> And women's education.
[18:18:23] <SifuZp> And women's suffrage
[18:18:25] <malanoche> That's two billion right there.
[18:18:44] <chibi> half of india lives in a gutter
[18:18:54] <zuck> nope. especially in india, its quite noticable. in areas with the greatest gains in living standards have also come the greatest reductions in birth rate.
[18:18:55] <wuwu> hi malanoche
[18:19:03] <malanoche> chibi, the other half actually own their own homes or cars or whatever and still shit kids like they're going out of style.
[18:19:05] <malanoche> Hiya wuhu.
[18:19:15] <zuck> india is a case study in that being true.
[18:19:15] <Roanoke> An educated woman is a woman that puts out without tying you to 3.7 screaming kids. Win-win.
[18:19:24] <malanoche> zuck, your insane BBC-influenced anecdotal "evidence" doesn't hold up to the numbers.
[18:19:33] <malanoche> Lots of you are saying all sorts of shit with precisely zero actual statistics.
[18:19:35] <zuck> wealthiest state in india is also the state with the lowest birth rate. kerala
[18:19:50] <malanoche> That's also the smallest state, no?
[18:19:53] <malanoche> Seriously, zuck.
[18:19:54] <malanoche> Get a grip.
[18:19:58] <Vikash> ahem.
[18:19:59] <malanoche> Stats or it didn't happen, kid.
[18:20:10] <Vikash> so what's this about them indians
[18:20:13] <SifuZp> so what's changed?
[18:20:20] <zuck> Kerala?s birth rate is 14 per 1000 females and falling fast. India's rate is 25 per 1000 females
[18:20:22] <malanoche> I stand by my original statement: We simply don't have the numbers in hand to proclaim a world population plateau of 10 billion.
[18:20:39] <zuck> the size of the state doesnt effect the PER CAPITA numbers.
[18:20:46] <Vikash> if you were truly good at numbers you'd be on wall st
[18:20:49] <malanoche> Anyone who says different either has numbers nobody else in the world has or is uselessly optimistic.
[18:20:58] <malanoche> zuck, I was referring to population, dipshit.
[18:21:09] <zuck> ok, you dont want to know, you just want to randomly argue. im done.
[18:21:12] <malanoche> You know what. Never mind. This is what I get for trying to engage retards in serious conversation.
[18:21:15] <Vikash> i would only trust a top notch financier on population statistics.
[18:21:32] <xartet> like saobi, Vikash?
[18:21:35] <Vikash> Orestes.
[18:21:40] <malanoche> zuck is just oblivious as to the meaning of simple English and Vikash is flailing around trying to insert himself into a conversation everybodyknows he's ill-equipped to participate in.
[18:21:48] <Vikash> saobi as well.
[18:21:56] <Roanoke> Whatever.
[18:22:07] <xartet> didnt saobi kind of screw you?
[18:22:14] <Vikash> malthus deez
[18:22:23] <Roanoke> Education. Or else.
[18:22:23] <malanoche> These chatters have never been on my radar. What am I missing.
[18:22:28] <truth> malanoche are you a tampa team or a jacksonville team?
[18:22:32] <Vikash> xartet: he was helpful overall. but his last call was a bit suspect.
[18:22:33] <malanoche> None of the above.
[18:22:40] <malanoche> I don't follow any Florida teams except the Heat.
[18:22:44] <malanoche> Who are having Issues again.
[18:22:51] <truth> you got a NFL team?
[18:22:58] <zp> she want tha tlaffy taffy, that kiss kiss
[18:23:00] <malanoche> D-Wade throws up 40 points, 11 assists and 5 blocks and the Heat lose.
[18:23:06] <malanoche> truth, Buffalo.
[18:23:13] <malanoche> Yeah, no need to start. Our season's over.
[18:23:16] * zp reverse slam dunks malanoche
[18:23:20] * malanoche flails
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[18:24:01] <zp> hi sat gtfo
[18:24:14] <malanoche> I think my laptop with the busted LCD is about to have a hard drive failure of colossal proportions.
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[18:24:39] <zp> awesome
[18:24:41] <zp> had a feeling he'd do that
[18:24:47] <malanoche> zp FTW
[18:24:48] <truth> buffalo just lose to somebody
[18:24:51] <zp> 5 4 3 zero.. yeayah.
[18:25:02] <malanoche> truth, Buffalo loses to everyone in the division.
[18:25:08] <malanoche> 0-3 against the AFC East.
[18:25:09] <wuwu> oh man, i am so tired
[18:25:10] * malanoche sob
[18:25:20] <wuwu> burgh plays tonite i believe
[18:25:38] <xartet> anyone here burgin
[18:25:40] <xartet> what about zaing
[18:25:42] <malanoche> Bills lost on a miracle kick by Dawson and then hung Lindell out to dry on the go-ahead kick. And yet Edwards threw 3 INTs and we were still in the game.
[18:25:43] <zuck> thats right roanoke. another great method of lowering the birth rate is education. MOST effective is education for women.
[18:25:44] <xartet> you guys ever za?
[18:25:54] <malanoche> But that shit against the Jets and Dolphins, that doesn't fly for a championship team.
[18:26:18] <zuck> the studies have shown that when you educate the women in an area, they of themselves generally opt for and get much lower family sizes.
[18:26:26] <Roanoke> Zuck : Smart women are more sexy. Go figure hey ?
[18:26:47] <malanoche> Indian women are sexy if they can stop themselves from ballooning.
[18:26:50] <Roanoke> Its a paradox yin-yang thing.
[18:26:56] <gothchick> that's cuz we're too bizzy wit da lernin to put out
[18:26:59] <xartet> i hate independent educated women. i really really do.
[18:27:02] <malanoche> Sometimes I wonder if they're predisposed to obesity.
[18:27:05] * gothchick belches
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[18:27:22] <xartet> exhibit a
[18:27:24] <zuck> so, from a social policy perspective that might mean targeting education in an area SPECIFICALLY to the women and let the knuckle-draggers play catch up.
[18:27:26] <malanoche> gothchick can relate to women getting education. She knows how rough it is, what with the music college experience and all.
[18:27:31] <wuwu> gothee =)
[18:27:40] <gothchick> wuwuwuwuwuwu
[18:28:06] <gothchick> supwichoo?
[18:28:07] <malanoche> Oh shit, heh, that's not the drive, the speaker's on the fritz.
[18:28:13] <madmin> i dunno, there is actually a pretty large class of college educated white women who marry but then never work a day in their lives, living their dream of being housewives
[18:28:24] <zuck> gothchick not just bizziness but also upward social mobility which makes women much more selective in their mates.
[18:28:47] <gothchick> yeah, of course
[18:28:47] <chibi> i'd like to be housewife.
[18:28:50] <chibi> be_a
[18:28:53] <gothchick> i was being silly
[18:28:56] <zuck> and much LESS receptive to father-command type social norms
[18:28:59] <artichoke> The whole idea of getting women out into the workforce was all about making labor cheaper and providing an "extra" income to pay government taxes.
[18:29:00] <madmin> go grocery shopping at noon in an affluent part of town and you'll see them
[18:29:02] <Roanoke> Geeez. For once that Im not being mysogynistic.
[18:29:08] <malanoche> madmin, that class of women will be the nail in the U.S.'s first world coffin.
[18:29:25] <malanoche> Because the invariably produce lazy dumbshits like yuyuyup.
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[18:29:33] <zp> !kick zp
[18:29:36] <zuck> artichoke i believe in north america i was mostly about filling vacant spots in the work force left by departing soldiers during the wars.
[18:29:38] <zp> :D
[18:29:39] <xartet> haha malanoche is right
[18:29:41] <zp> HAHAHAHA
[18:29:55] <Roanoke> Yuyuyup got a job.
[18:30:00] <malanoche> He's had one.
[18:30:02] <malanoche> He's a night watchman.
[18:30:03] <xartet> he;s still lazy
[18:30:05] <malanoche> Like expers was before the welfare.
[18:30:08] <gothchick> there are also housewives who spend their free time working for charities and caring for children
[18:30:12] <gothchick> don't be so quick to judge
[18:30:14] <malanoche> So basically yuyuyup is a young expers.
[18:30:16] <artichoke> The whole point of having wives at home was to make sure the next generation knew what it meant to have a significant human relationship.
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[18:30:21] * zp judges gothchick
[18:30:23] <belab001> sup broberry bush
[18:30:25] <gothchick> and there are men who don't want their wives to work
[18:30:29] <madmin> charities generally only hire people who have degrees
[18:30:30] <Roanoke> Expers is different.
[18:30:31] <gothchick> zp: i'm a 4.3
[18:30:42] <malanoche> That ship has sailed, HDthrow. The point of having offspring now is to produce the next generation's elite working machines.
[18:30:47] <Roanoke> His expertise IS getting welfare.
[18:30:47] <zuck> whats a 4.3
[18:30:50] <xartet> and there are wives that still listen to their husbands demands????
[18:30:52] <malanoche> Otherwise Japan and China are going to kick our asses.
[18:30:53] <gothchick> out of ten!
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[18:31:08] <gothchick> i don't mean hired people... i mean volunteers
[18:31:13] <xartet> better yet, there are college eduacted women that still listen to their husband's demands?
[18:31:17] <zuck> well i've only seen your fingers in a photo once, but im going to give them an 8
[18:31:22] <gothchick> oh thanks
[18:31:24] <artichoke> Now that children no longer have their mothers home to humanize them, they grow up latch-key kids, unable to conceive of any community outside of government-approved institutions like school and corporate dungeons.
[18:31:30] <malanoche> xartet, if the husband is a Cuban the girl won't have much of a choice.
[18:31:37] <xartet> haha
[18:31:38] * gothchick displays a finger
[18:31:51] * zuck ohhs, ahhhs
[18:31:55] <malanoche> There are three stages to negotiation with a Cuban husband. Stage one: Conflict. Stage two: Bleeding. Stage three: Acceptance.
[18:32:02] <himmy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z-UxEZ6yA0&feature=rec-HM-r2
[18:32:17] <Roanoke> Im a latch key kid dude. And Im happy my mom works.
[18:32:18] <artichoke> College-educated women know how to take notes while listening to their husbands demands.
[18:32:22] <zuck> there are three things to know about cuban girls: 1) dreamy 2) dreamy 3) dreamy
[18:32:24] <himmy> I couldn't believe what I was looking at.
[18:32:31] <malanoche> And organize those notes into a succinct outline!
[18:32:39] <xartet> haha
[18:32:43] <zp> gothchick you're a 4.3 of 10?
[18:32:44] <zp> damn girl
[18:32:44] <gothchick> once again, segue shows why he's single
[18:32:53] <zp> what's the major flaw
[18:32:54] <gothchick> zp on a good day, yep
[18:33:00] <zuck> just about every single cuban girl past the age of 25 has a college degree. its dreamy
[18:33:01] <malanoche> zp, the penis is an automatic -5.
[18:33:13] <gothchick> the plaid skin, mostly
[18:33:18] <artichoke> I'm single because this society is singular about what it expects. And so am I.
[18:33:23] <zp> well without the penis she'd be pretty close to a dime then
[18:33:28] <artichoke> And unfortunately the twain do not appear to meet.
[18:33:30] <malanoche> Silver lining, zp.
[18:33:54] <malanoche> I'm single because I like keeping my shit.
[18:34:15] <xartet> I'm sinlge because I'm an orphaned bastard.
[18:34:30] <zp> i'm single because i'm crazier than a shithouse rat
[18:34:33] <malanoche> And because you have no chin, xartet.
[18:34:53] <Roanoke> Im single cause... I dunno.
[18:34:55] <xartet> see i knew malanoche couldnt just let it lie.
[18:34:56] <zp> i know
[18:35:00] <malanoche> xartet, hugs.
[18:35:03] <xartet> he always has to put my nick in his text
[18:35:05] <artichoke> Society has taught me that if I marry a woman for any reason other than true love and respect, my marriage will fail and I will lose my money, self-respect, and my kids. So I guess I'm still waiting for the true love and respect to happen.
[18:35:08] * zp group nakedhugs
[18:35:18] <zp> tell him to keep his nick out of you
[18:35:24] <malanoche> xartet, I know you can take it when you're so willing to dish it out.
[18:35:33] <zp> keep his nick in his pants rather
[18:35:34] <xartet> yeah that's truee
[18:35:38] <malanoche> Now bend over and make the starfish come out.
[18:35:46] * zp pukes
[18:35:55] <xartet> why what's gonna happen?
[18:35:55] <rentparty> marriage is evil because it forces a relationship where there isnt one, and suggests just having sex is wrong, which is generally the true basis for the relationship. multiply this a few million times and you've got a fucked up society
[18:36:17] <artichoke> I think perhaps society does not understand how different men and women are, and that they have much different standards.
[18:36:18] <Roanoke> True love ? Thats crap. I would sell out to comfort and someone who can shop for me ensembles that matches.
[18:36:24] <malanoche> A marriage which "forces a relationship where there isn't one" is doomed to failure from the start.
[18:36:36] <malanoche> Roanoke, you should /nick Toki
[18:36:53] <xartet> civil unions
[18:36:54] <xartet> here we are
[18:37:03] <artichoke> Civil unionize DEEZ.
[18:37:11] <madmin> everyone hates marriage except fags
[18:37:14] <zuck> i'd consider a group marriage.
[18:37:14] <xartet> common-law marriages
[18:37:17] <madmin> and people who marry for money
[18:37:18] <xartet> i like those
[18:37:25] <madmin> which is perhaps the same group
[18:37:26] <SifuZp> i like snowcones, but not a company, they think they're going to h andicap my game playing?
[18:37:30] <malanoche> xartet, the Republigoons will never accept the transition to actual civil unions because then they'll have zero argument against the gays doing it.
[18:38:05] <zuck> since when have republicans relied on cogent arguments
[18:38:12] <belab001> http://dshort.com/charts/bears/four-bears-large.gif
[18:38:19] <belab001> worst market crash since the depression
[18:38:21] <malanoche> Did I say "cogent"?
[18:38:32] <malanoche> There aren't any cogent ones now. They rely on semantics and a sky pixie.
[18:38:57] <malanoche> Hell, the semantics argument is so pervasive clueless independents or liberal-leaning people like bmc fall for 'em.
[18:39:13] <madmin> the stock market didn't drop 50% during te tech crash.
[18:39:16] <madmin> the
[18:39:36] <malanoche> PuttyWad must be shit-drunk and almost done crying over his Datek balance. He'll be here soon.
[18:39:48] <madmin> feel free to print out your bear graph and poop on it
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[18:40:18] <malanoche> Been a while since I seen sfgov.org around here.
[18:40:25] <belab001> madmin, sounds like you lost big during the tech crash
[18:40:30] <zuck> our economy looks nothing like the economy of 1929.
[18:40:31] <wuwu> yay i am going to go beat some boys with a stick!
[18:40:34] <malanoche> _I_ lost big during the tech crash.
[18:40:37] <belab001> madmin, dont get upset with the numbers, try to invest better
[18:40:40] <malanoche> wuwu, that sounds rash.
[18:40:41] <wuwu> i went 2 &1 last night
[18:40:42] <zp> i lost big during the crash of 1929
[18:40:44] <zp> that was brutal
[18:40:48] <malanoche> zuck, there are strong parallels.
[18:40:49] <zp> but at least now i've got a lot of shoes
[18:40:52] <madmin> no, but we all know the stock market didn't drop 50% during the tech crash, as i said
[18:40:54] <artichoke> Heterosexual marriage is a ritual that preceded the American marriage laws by thousands of years. Homo marriage is a new thing. How do we know they expect from marriage the same thing we do? So why should they be allowed to redefine our laws?
[18:40:55] <wuwu> my friend sarah rousey is kicking guys pro asses =)
[18:40:59] <wuwu> she is a female pro player
[18:41:02] <malanoche> Some say the only tangible difference is that we're still actively "at war".
[18:41:05] <greendeal> yes, it seems just as boring around here since last time
[18:41:09] <belab001> madmin, sure, everyone knows that you're a dolt. like you said.
[18:41:10] <zuck> why dont you compare the economic drop of today to the collapse of the roman stock market circa 400 a.d. for all the good it will do you in prediction
[18:41:12] <malanoche> greendeal, old nick = ?
[18:41:14] <wuwu> anyway have fun, and .667 isn't good enough!
[18:41:17] <madmin> thus your graph is wrong
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[18:41:20] <belab001> madmin, you don't konw how to read a graph very well
[18:41:40] <madmin> yeah, it's hard to read "tech crash, -49.1%"
[18:41:45] <Roanoke> 476 A.D ...
[18:41:48] <zp> psht, women have no excuse for being bad at billiards
[18:41:49] <artichoke> dotcom bubble.
[18:41:50] <Roanoke> Zuck was there !
[18:41:51] <zp> there's no real physical aspect
[18:41:52] <greendeal> still trying to get that ever-elusive *life* your so fondo of mal-oder?
[18:41:58] <zp> and there are separate leagues for a reason
[18:42:04] <birdflu> hie..
[18:42:06] <rentparty> what is in fact dying is a world that had become too topheavy with its own hubris, too bent by its own false value systems, and too dehumanized to care about what happens to its own children
[18:42:07] <zp> it's because the men use them as a table brush
[18:42:10] <zuck> roanoke, i was everywhere.
[18:42:10] <malanoche> HDThrow, you're a fucking retard. The word "marriage" is immaterial to American government. The debate is about civil unions for gays that carry all the same privileges as civil unions for straights.
[18:42:24] <malanoche> And you're too goddamn old to be falling for idiotic semantics shit.
[18:42:34] <Roanoke> Hi Birdflu...
[18:42:35] <belab001> madmin, youre probably too young, which is why you sound so clueless
[18:42:39] <birdflu> i wanna go see the hoosier dome get blown up.
[18:42:40] <artichoke> malanoche: it's an intent of the law thing.
[18:42:45] <malanoche> So my best guess here is that you're aware of this and using the "marriage" tangent as your only real argument.
[18:42:46] <zp> HDThrow sucks
[18:42:48] <malanoche> It is nothing of the sort.
[18:42:49] <birdflu> ive never seen anything get blown up before.
[18:42:53] <malanoche> It is an equality issue.
[18:42:56] <artichoke> malanoche: if the intent of the law does not matter, prepare for slippery slope.
[18:42:57] <birdflu> in person.
[18:43:08] <madmin> just be a man and admit your graph is wrong, don't act like a baby.
[18:43:08] <belab001> madmin, or youre just horribly uninformed, or unable to read charts,etc. any of of many deficiencies will explain your failure
[18:43:08] <Roanoke> Heh Birdflu. Ive got a question.
[18:43:12] <birdflu> yes roan?
[18:43:14] <malanoche> Slippery slope is a fallacy without any corroborating evidence, HDthrow. You're failing badly.
[18:43:17] <greendeal> wow laggy
[18:43:17] <artichoke> yo bf.
[18:43:22] <birdflu> hie artie..
[18:43:29] <artichoke> malanoche: except for all the evidence.
[18:43:31] <greendeal> bursty-laggy
[18:43:31] <madmin> birdflu: you broke joee's heart
[18:43:32] <zuck> greendeal!
[18:43:38] <zuck> I like it!
[18:43:46] <madmin> birdflu: he's not strong enough to say so, but there you go
[18:43:47] <zuck> go coin that phrase everywhere
[18:43:49] <Roanoke> Birdflu. If a real flu virus gets out, and kills, I dunno. 1% of the world population. Will you change yer nick ?
[18:44:01] <greendeal> .
[18:44:05] <belab001> madmin barely knows what the SP500 is
[18:44:05] <chibi> http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/court-upholds-acquittal-of-doctor-over-boys-cotton-candy-stick-death
[18:44:07] <bougyman> "Court upholds acquittal of doctor over boy's cotton candy stick death › Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion":
[18:44:07] <madmin> since you broke his heart it is hard for him to enjoy irc :(
[18:44:08] <birdflu> if it's not related to birds i will not.
[18:44:13] <malanoche> HDthrow, make a single rational argument against civil unions for gays that can't be applied to civil unions for straights and you'll have something. Until that day, you're just masking your distaste for something that is none of your fucking business, you nosy asshole.
[18:44:27] <birdflu> out of respect to birds and flu victims if it is a bird related virus i will change my nick.
[18:44:35] <greendeal> huh this client isn't receiving until I send something
[18:44:47] <malanoche> That's haku isn't it.
[18:44:55] <greendeal> yeah greendeal... Not enough letters for "GreenNewDeal"
[18:44:59] <artichoke> malanoche: case in point: when the income tax was instituted, it was only paid by the richest 3% of the population. Today -- after slippery slope -- even poor assholes collecting Social Security are paying income tax.
[18:45:07] <malanoche> HDthrow, irrelevant tangent. Answer the challenge.
[18:45:12] <belab001> lol madmin is such a newb
[18:45:16] <Roanoke> How about NEWnew deal ?
[18:45:17] <greendeal> mal is still trying to be a rookie netadmin, huh
[18:45:21] <belab001> madmin, how are old are you bud?
[18:45:23] <birdflu> also if bird's get there shit together i might have a bit more respect for them.
[18:45:26] <artichoke> malanoche: how about this. How many people should be involved in a marriage?
[18:45:28] <Roanoke> Or. NEWER DEAL.
[18:45:31] <birdflu> birds
[18:45:38] <belab001> madmin, you should read a book on investing or the WSJ sometime. you need to learn the basics son
[18:45:40] <birdflu> i'm not sure why i decided to use an apostrophe there.
[18:45:44] <zuck> Green Deal. I've been hearing a lot about that lately. Tying the bailouts to structural adjustment of the economy towards a green shift. I think its fantastic.
[18:45:45] <madmin> poor assholes who file tax returns will usuallyget all of that money back. a zero interest, though.
[18:45:45] <malanoche> Poor haku. He lost every bit of progress he made separating himself from the tardstream in a quick, violent paroxysm of tardthink.
[18:45:48] <madmin> at
[18:46:10] <belab001> madmin is probably an ESL'er
[18:46:13] <malanoche> HDthrow, again, irrelevant tangent, I've already slapped down where you're going with that. Answer the challenge.
[18:46:32] <birdflu> madmin is one of my students from nairobi.
[18:46:32] <greendeal> zuck yeah, it's obvious we're facing the 2nd great depression... time to do another new deal... the green new deal
[18:46:34] <birdflu> he's got a beautiful smile. it lights up a room.
[18:46:42] <malanoche> You and I both know where you're going to end up. "Societal norms," "majority rules," etc. etc. etc.
[18:46:44] <malanoche> You've got nothing.
[18:47:03] <greendeal> .
[18:47:03] <birdflu> pearly whites and beautiful deep dark skin.
[18:47:03] <zuck> we are obviously going to have a spend a lot of money over the next 10 years to update and reallign our economy anyways. this is the best opportunity possible to do that
[18:47:07] <greendeal> bbl
[18:47:13] <yuyuyup> FUCK all the castlevania:judgement torrents are private
[18:47:19] <birdflu> he's in the maori tribe but he has to live in the city.
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[18:47:33] <birdflu> he goes to the village when he has time.
[18:47:34] <artichoke> malanoche: in heterosexual marriage, the most "progressive" allocation of man to woman and woman to man has been 1 man, 1 woman,the minimum to start most families. This falls nicely in line with the population split: 49% men and 51% women. But what about homosexuals? Why would there need to be only two? Why not 3, 4, 5, a coven, a kibbutz?
[18:47:34] <zuck> and FOR ONCE the left has actually put itself out ahead of the issue and is vocally providing working alternatives.
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[18:47:43] <zp> guess what nigras
[18:47:44] <zp> i'm going home
[18:47:49] <malanoche> Irrelevent, HDThrow. Answer the challenge.
[18:47:49] <zp> fuck you all very much
[18:47:55] <birdflu> he looks handsome in his american levis and harley davidson tshirt
[18:48:04] <birdflu> but so much more handsome in his traditional clothing.
[18:48:05] <artichoke> malanoche: the point is that you don't even know what you are advocating for. Your type never does.
[18:48:15] <zp> dude malanoche HATES HDThrow
[18:48:23] <malanoche> HDThrow, I know exactly what I am advocating. You have failed to come up with a single valid argument to date.
[18:48:28] <belab001> yo madminge
[18:48:30] <belab001> im offering to school you
[18:48:32] <zp> bbl
[18:48:34] <belab001> teach you some basix
[18:48:41] <birdflu> madmin, how is kenya celebrating obama's victory?
[18:48:43] <malanoche> Your little tangential flailfest there only serves to do one thing: Legalize both gay marriage _and_ polygamy.
[18:48:52] <belab001> youre obviously thirsting for someone to help you not embarass yourself so awfully
[18:48:53] <artichoke> malanoche: you are advocating that a small percentage of our population should be allowed to rewrite our marriage laws.
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[18:49:05] <artichoke> Based on "fairness."
[18:49:06] <malanoche> And then you are forced to default to "soceital norms," "majority rules," "religious sensibilities," and all that other bullshit indefensible nonsense.
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[18:49:11] <zuck> how about we stop trying to legislate sexual morality altogeather?
[18:49:25] <zuck> oh, sorry. sense.
[18:49:26] <malanoche> Ahh, THERE it is. Majority rules.
[18:49:30] <artichoke> Well shit, that means *anyone* can rewrite our laws to suit their tastes of what "fairness" is.
[18:49:43] <madmin> we threw jerome corsi out of our country, this is how much we like obama
[18:49:47] <greenDeal> the sex issue is a distraction from the unemployment numbers coming up
[18:49:50] <malanoche> Unfortunately for HDthrow, the government's mandate is not to enforce the majority's will, but in fact protect minorities from majority rule.
[18:49:55] <birdflu> madmin, i hope one day i can visit you.
[18:50:20] <greenDeal> birdflu=nineve?
[18:50:23] <greenDeal> hahaha
[18:50:24] <birdflu> i want to see you marry hafsa.
[18:50:33] <malanoche> And, as you can see, HDThrow has completely failed to answer the bell and present one single, _remotely_ defensible argument for civil unions being restricted to straights.
[18:50:39] <artichoke> I don't like Affirmative Action because I'm left out. I'm discriminated against because I'm white. To make it "fair," I need to make the judge make Affirmative Action work as well for me just like it works for the parties the law was *intended* to help.
[18:50:42] <birdflu> i'm nothing like nineve.
[18:50:54] <malanoche> zp, I dislike him only as much as I dislike all chatters who make heavyhanded tardpronouncements and invariably fail to back them up.
[18:51:10] <greenDeal> artichoke, get some skillz and STFU
[18:51:11] <madmin> the types of jobs that affirmative action affects are not jobs that whites work anyway.
[18:51:19] <malanoche> Hilarity. "Majority rules," "status quo."
[18:51:28] <artichoke> malanoche thinks the law needs to be reinterpreted any time someone wants "fairness."
[18:51:29] <malanoche> I think the status quo was shaken up a little recently, leaving HDThrow's kind out in the cold anyway.
[18:51:47] <malanoche> HDthrow, just one single argument in favor of restricting civil unions to straights. That's all you need to save face.
[18:51:50] <artichoke> It never matters what the intent or even what the letter of the law is.
[18:51:59] <artichoke> malanoche is anti-law essentially.
[18:52:03] <malanoche> Or, well, you could just threaten to kick my ass like you did last time you lost a debate this handily.
[18:52:23] <artichoke> He is pro-make-it-up-as-you-go-along.
[18:52:24] <greenDeal> all that matters are court cases... you don't like a law...challenge it in court... the civil rights movement proved that
[18:52:27] <SifuZp> He is so cold, eskimos have 150 words for her in a long time ago, I thought 16 lbs somewhere along the river this morning
[18:52:28] <malanoche> Still waiting for you to make that happen, by the way.
[18:52:33] <greenDeal> stom whining and get to work
[18:52:34] <malanoche> I would just love for you to show up on my doorstep, a la MacHeath.
[18:52:50] <belab001> S&P500 lost around 45% during the tech crash: March 9, 2000 (1401.69) - October 9, 2002 (776.76)
[18:52:50] <belab001> nunbers dont lie
[18:52:53] <belab001> but madmin does
[18:52:55] <belab001> hahha
[18:53:07] <belab001> how hard is it to look it up on google finance
[18:53:08] <artichoke> malanoche: the only thing you have "won" is your right to take your own shits. There are some things I won't do for you.
[18:53:18] <belab001> or any of the million sites that will give you daily s&p 500 prices
[18:53:21] <greenDeal> last month they said dow will bottom out at 7200...now they are saying 5000
[18:53:21] <malanoche> HDthrow, are you seriously incapable of producing even _one_ argument in favor of restricting civil unions to straight couples?
[18:53:22] <artichoke> But in this case I'm doing your thinking for you, since you refuse to do your own.
[18:53:24] <malanoche> Just one?
[18:53:25] <belab001> poor madmin didn't realize its all online
[18:53:27] <belab001> haahhaha
[18:53:36] <belab001> madmin - you are feeling pretty embarassed i bet. no worries, ill teach you son
[18:53:53] <belab001> http://dshort.com/charts/bears/four-bears-large.gif
[18:53:55] <malanoche> One little itty bitty argument that doesn't involve "majority rules," "societal norms," "religious sensitivity" or "status quo"?
[18:53:57] <artichoke> malanoche: protecting the intent of the law is not an argument?
[18:54:03] <greenDeal> look at the credit crisis during the depression..similar pattern.. the market will go down with dead cat bounces for the next year or so
[18:54:04] <malanoche> What is the "intent" you are protecting?
[18:54:12] <belab001> the current crash is worse than the tech crash, the oil crisis, and black monday
[18:54:22] <malanoche> The intent, of course, is to restrict the benefits of civil unions from a couple of consenting adults.
[18:54:23] <belab001> its the worst drop in value since the great depression
[18:54:30] <belab001> how much lower can it / will it go?
[18:54:31] <artichoke> malanoche thinks that the intent of the law is bullshit, that it needs to be reinterpreted by a judge somewhere to mean whatever any grievance class wants.
[18:54:32] <malanoche> Just because you don't like what they do in situations that are none of your fucking business.
[18:54:35] <greenDeal> duh
[18:54:43] <malanoche> Hahahahaha. HDThrow fails to even attempt supporting his own argument.
[18:54:47] <artichoke> Sorry, but that just doesn't fly.
[18:55:06] <artichoke> Your beginning principal is flawed and you are begging the question.
[18:55:09] <malanoche> You bailed on that one way too quickly, HDthrow. Did you have a moment of clarity?
[18:55:15] <artichoke> Thanks for playing anyway.
[18:55:16] <greenDeal> haha "greivence class"
[18:55:21] <howto> stupid silent glue boy
[18:55:21] <SifuZp> Thanks for clearing that up for every use?
[18:55:24] <malanoche> Begging the question? I asked you to define your terms in an argument YOU presented, fucknugget.
[18:55:30] <SifuZp> Begging the question. how can we talk about gothchick like potemkin said, or in shape
[18:55:31] <jerryyang> Government shouldn't regulate marriage.
[18:55:35] <malanoche> [18:54:04] <malanoche> What is the "intent" you are protecting?
[18:55:40] <madmin> the courts have shot down affirmative action laws when it comes to university enrollments, but colleges have generally ignored that fact, so i think you can assume that the idea is here to stay
[18:55:45] <jerryyang> Who gives a fuck is fags get married?
[18:55:51] <malanoche> HDthrow does.
[18:55:53] <malanoche> A LOT.
[18:55:53] <jerryyang> Who gives a fuck if breeders get married?
[18:55:58] <artichoke> malanoche: you said I have presented no reason for laws not to be interpreted your way.
[18:56:02] <jerryyang> HDThrow loves Jebus.
[18:56:05] <malanoche> HDthrow, answer the question.
[18:56:05] <artichoke> malanoche: that is a false premis.
[18:56:10] <malanoche> You presented the argument, be prepared to defend it.
[18:56:10] <jerryyang> Who gives a fuck is HDThrow loves Jebus?
[18:56:10] <belab001> madmin is good at backing down, soft-pedalling, lurching from one embarassing outburs to the next
[18:56:13] <jerryyang> if
[18:56:13] <malanoche> [18:54:04] <malanoche> What is the "intent" you are protecting?
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[18:56:20] <greenDeal> nobody does, it's just a semantic distraction...like sports
[18:56:21] <artichoke> There doesn't need to be a "reason," because the law is the law.
[18:56:40] <belab001> madmin, arent you going to even apologize, or acknowledge your ill advised foray into chat?
[18:56:44] <malanoche> I haven't seen anyone bail this hard since a friend of mine laid down his GSR on the interstate.
[18:56:46] <artichoke> If you want to change the law -- it is YOU who needs to provide the reason -- not me.
[18:56:51] <belab001> haha
[18:56:51] <malanoche> [18:54:04] <malanoche> What is the "intent" you are protecting?
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[18:56:59] <malanoche> SImple question, HDThrow.
[18:57:01] <artichoke> The onus is on you.
[18:57:04] <greenDeal> excellent
[18:57:12] <greenDeal> do that again
[18:57:19] <malanoche> Aren't you embarrassed that I called you on your bullshit again, HDThrow?
[18:57:34] <belab001> madmin first makes up some bullshit numbers about the S&P500, claims all the charts and googel finance are wrong, then goes on a tear about how much he hates obama, and now hes talking about aliens implanting micrchips in his fillings
[18:57:38] <artichoke> You need to explain why the law needs to be changed to accommodate the grievance classes.
[18:57:38] <malanoche> That you once again presented a one-line thought, I called you on it and you completely failed to make it happen.
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[18:57:41] <malanoche> Like, badly.
[18:57:42] <churl> someone get this onus off me
[18:57:43] <SnowDog> DAMMIT
[18:57:44] <malanoche> Embarrassingly so.
[18:57:51] <artichoke> I don't need to explain why the law is the law. You need to explain why it needs to change.
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[18:57:54] <chibi> http://gawker.com/5095104/the-royal-scepter
[18:57:58] <malanoche> HDThrow, because there's no reason to restrict civil unions to straight couples only.
[18:58:06] <greenDeal> sounds like a bitter republican who voted for ron paul
[18:58:06] <artichoke> You are the one who wants it to change, not me. So make your argument, or STFU.
[18:58:07] <belab001> madmin, whats next? flouride is causing aids ?
[18:58:12] <malanoche> Using your "argument," negroes and women shouldn't have the right to vote.
[18:58:12] <SnowDog> BRKA is a buy and I dont have free capital to buy a substantial chunk
[18:58:15] <belab001> oh man this guy is speechless
[18:58:16] <belab001> haha
[18:58:17] <greenDeal> when dothe little tiny black helicopters show up?
[18:58:18] <SnowDog> DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT
[18:58:24] <churl> homosexuals are abominations of nature
[18:58:25] <malanoche> He claims to have voted for McCain.
[18:58:30] <belab001> <madmin> i dont even know wtf to say..
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[18:58:40] <artichoke> I never *claimed* to have voted for anybody.
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[18:58:43] <artichoke> Strike 2.
[18:58:44] <malanoche> churl, there are hundreds of instances of "natural" homosexual behavior.
[18:58:50] <greenDeal> ron paul is the lyndon larouche of the republican party
[18:58:59] <churl> bonobos are freaks of nature
[18:59:02] <Vikash> malonche is one of those examples.
[18:59:09] <malanoche> Hey, HDThrow, remember when you said that you were interested in protecting the "intenet" of the law? Say, what is that "intent" again?
[18:59:20] <greenDeal> the republicans are have finally had their last hurrah, bush was the last republican president
[18:59:24] <artichoke> malanoche: apparently the intent is one man, one woman.
[18:59:26] <belab001> i bet madmin spends his time posting uninformed / racist rants on news sites
[18:59:29] <greenDeal> the republicans will go the way of the whigs
[18:59:35] <belab001> or like youtube
[18:59:35] <belab001> haha
[18:59:38] <howto> have you the brain worms?
[18:59:39] <malanoche> HDthrow, and what about the status quo is worth preserving?
[18:59:47] <malanoche> Give me a single reason why civil unions should be restricted to straight couples.
[18:59:51] <belab001> too easy
[19:00:10] <malanoche> You have failed spectacularly up to this point. Shock the channel.
[19:00:14] <malanoche> Just one.
[19:00:17] <SnowDog> quick, someone loan me $1.5 million
[19:00:21] <artichoke> malanoche: what about Affirmative Action is worth preserving? While we're slicing and dicing longstanding laws to ribbons, why not change them all? What's the point of having them at all?
[19:00:22] <belab001> Vikash, check out this illuminating graph - the crash is now officially the worst since the great depression: http://dshort.com/charts/bears/four-bears-large.gif
[19:00:38] <belab001> the tech crash was only 45%, but that's been surpassed now in half the time
[19:00:39] <malanoche> HDthrow, again, why should we have allowed negroes or women to vote?
[19:00:47] <belab001> the velocity of the downsing is certainly much stronger
[19:00:53] <malanoche> You're going in circles, everybody is watching you do it. Have some fucking pride, you monkey.
[19:01:03] <malanoche> Know when to say when, slappy.
[19:01:16] <artichoke> If you're so facile that you can't understand the value of vital societal institutions and the laws that grew up around them, I can't explain it to you.
[19:01:28] <malanoche> HDthrow, what is "vital" about "one man one woman"?
[19:01:30] <malanoche> You're assuming your conclusions.
[19:01:37] <greenDeal> that's a good graph, and we're following the 29 pattern with a similar credit crisis
[19:01:37] <artichoke> You're so smart, yet you go all simple on us here.
[19:01:42] <artichoke> You can't figure it out.
[19:01:45] <malanoche> It's rather idiotic, and it's an oft-defeated fallacy employed to defend the status quo when it is not worthy of being defended.
[19:01:59] <malanoche> HDThrow, I figured it out. What I'm demonstrating to you and the rest of the people here is that you have not.
[19:02:07] <artichoke> I already told you that you are begging the question.
[19:02:09] <artichoke> End of line.
[19:02:14] <belab001> vikash.. shocking eh
[19:02:14] <xartet> no one can paint baby in the corner, but i think malanoche just did.
[19:02:19] <Vikash> yup
[19:02:19] <malanoche> HDthrow, you didn't claim "one man one woman" is "vital" just six lines ago?
[19:02:20] <zuck> except this time the government has stepped in with a new deal WAAAAAAY before letting it go on for years.
[19:02:22] <greenDeal> are you guys finished pissing on eachother yet?
[19:02:28] <malanoche> xartet, last time I did this he threatened to kick my ass.
[19:02:30] <greenDeal> did you drink extra beer?
[19:02:30] <malanoche> Or kill me, not sure which.
[19:02:32] <malanoche> I think the former.
[19:02:36] <artichoke> You ASSUME the law must be changed. But it isn't me who must provide proof that it must. That's your job.
[19:02:38] <malanoche> Sufficiently hilarious for me to extend an invite to my house.
[19:02:44] <greenDeal> zuck, it hasn't yet
[19:02:45] <belab001> Vikash, basically the entire country has been pumped and dumped
[19:02:48] <malanoche> HDThrow, why is "one man one woman" "vital"?
[19:02:50] <greenDeal> it's working on it
[19:02:56] <Vikash> it's too bad there are so many self-loathing gays against gay marriage
[19:03:01] <greenDeal> the credit crisis is still in full effect
[19:03:01] <zuck> well new deal level spending
[19:03:05] <malanoche> Vikash, only one I know of is Neff.
[19:03:09] <malanoche> Oh, and Mark Foley.
[19:03:10] <birdflu> why would any gay be against gay marriage?
[19:03:18] <Vikash> there's probably a few more here
[19:03:37] <greenDeal> there's no money to loan right now... to anyone, because banks are nearly out of cash
[19:03:39] <zuck> every western power has voted itself a sizable chunk of money to slip into the credit market
[19:03:41] <malanoche> HDThrow is furiously typing up another line of evasion and obfuscation as we speak. I just know it.
[19:03:46] |<-- potemkin has left efnet ()
[19:03:49] <Vikash> on the other hand it's amazing that a gun-toting trash talkin ego-maniac is pro gay-marriage. welcome to the 21st century :D
[19:03:57] <malanoche> It should be sufficiently vague and nonetheless chock full of baseless ad hominem.
[19:04:02] <Vikash> weirdness is the new normal.
[19:04:04] * malanoche awaits
[19:04:07] <greenDeal> the banks are taking what they can get from the 700B bailout and buying smaller banks instead of loaing money
[19:04:07] <xartet> ive seen seruious fags seriously for mccain seriously wearing mccain shirts
[19:04:10] <artichoke> malanoche: why *shouldn't* we monkey around with an ancient social contract between those who procreate? I guess that's a hard one to figure out. Ever heard of the "Law of Unintended Consequences?"
[19:04:14] <malanoche> There it is.
[19:04:21] <SnowDog> Vikash: loan me $1.5m
[19:04:26] <SnowDog> :)
[19:04:28] <malanoche> Ancient? The country is less than 250 years old, retard.
[19:04:29] * PuttyWad slams back down
[19:04:32] <greenDeal> international banks aren't loaning to eachother
[19:04:38] <malanoche> Hahahahahahaha. "ancient"
[19:04:41] * Vikash loans SnowDog 1.5 million 0% interest
[19:04:44] <zuck> germany japan britain canada italy etc etc have all voted roughly comeasurate $ figures to slip into their own banks
[19:04:46] <SnowDog> WOOHOO
[19:04:48] <malanoche> Wow, HDthrow. This is easily your worst showing in recent memory.
[19:04:54] <Vikash> :D
[19:04:56] <artichoke> malanoche: the institution is much older. How old is the institution of gay marriage? Is it just a fad?
[19:04:56] <PuttyWad> i think Kermit isn't really a frog
[19:05:08] <malanoche> 'HDthrow, what makes "one man one woman" so "vital"?
[19:05:09] * SnowDog buys 19 shares of BRKA.
[19:05:10] <malanoche> You claimed it above.
[19:05:12] <artichoke> malanoche: your points are incredibly weak.
[19:05:16] <malanoche> I'd be glad to repost your words if you have forgotten already.
[19:05:18] <PuttyWad> what the fucking hell is 'comeasurate'?
[19:05:29] <PuttyWad> is this #japan?
[19:05:33] <greenDeal> I think nationalizing banks is a good idea especially the folding "financial" banks that are all stock hedges anyway
[19:05:34] <PuttyWad> i don't understand
[19:05:49] <artichoke> malanoche counts hundred if not thousands of years of family history as nothing.
[19:05:51] <malanoche> My "point" is that you are utterly and hilariously failing to construct even a _single_ coherent argument as to why "one man one woman" is a "vital" concept for the U.S.A.
[19:05:54] <greenDeal> they caused this mess, they should be bought out by the government
[19:05:56] <chibi> HEBRON, West Bank (AP) - Jewish settlers on Thursday spray-painted graffiti on a mosque slurring the Prophet Muhammad and defaced a Muslim cemetery, Israeli military officials said, threatening to worsen tensions in this volatile West Bank city.
[19:05:59] <malanoche> It's not a weak one at all, and I've demonstrated it sufficiently.
[19:06:04] <artichoke> 'Cause "it needz to CHANGE!"
[19:06:13] <PuttyWad> huh, so family history is all rad and shit?
[19:06:13] <zuck> commensurate
[19:06:19] <malanoche> Just one, HDthrow.
[19:06:21] <PuttyWad> your mother is commensurate
[19:06:28] <zuck> yes :(
[19:06:30] <PuttyWad> keep up the good shirk
[19:06:31] <malanoche> One argument and you can forget all about this humiliating little dance of defeat you've been doing for the last 10 minutes.
[19:06:34] <malanoche> Just. One.
[19:06:42] <greenDeal> chibi, that and a depression and you have the makings of a world war
[19:06:58] <malanoche> Found it.
[19:07:01] <artichoke> malanoche: your point is completely moot. It completely begs the question. And the only argument that anyone needs to hear is: why should the intent of the law be changed? It's all on you, scrot.
[19:07:04] <greenDeal> ...only it'll probably start w/Pakistan vs. India
[19:07:06] <PuttyWad> oh who's this malanochre person. this is going to rocket the ching chongs into space, post haste
[19:07:14] =-= malanoche has changed the topic to “<artichoke> malanoche: how about I kick your ass?”
[19:07:15] =-= Mode #philosophy +t by Mises
[19:07:34] <PuttyWad> Pakistan gives a shit about you and yours, sure thing
[19:07:40] <PuttyWad> nuke this, hut
[19:07:41] <malanoche> HDthrow, did you not just claim that "one man one woman" is a "vital" concept for the U.S.A.'s government to regulate?
[19:07:47] <malanoche> These are your words.
[19:07:49] <malanoche> I'm just confirming here.
[19:07:51] <malanoche> Yea or nay?
[19:07:52] <greenDeal> Putty, crack an 'ol mil for me, wouldjadare?
[19:08:03] <PuttyWad> please stop scrolling about ice skating
[19:08:24] <PuttyWad> beotch, this is Pabst Blue Ribbon Light day
[19:08:27] <greenDeal> how'djalike cathy rigby up your ass!
[19:08:42] * malanoche waits for the world's slowest oblivous asshole chatter to think up and type some insane retort
[19:08:50] <malanoche> Let's go, HDthrow. Time is money.
[19:08:53] * malanoche taps watch
[19:09:03] <greenDeal> PBRs are ok...thought you'd be a Miller light guy because of the alky content
[19:09:03] <artichoke> malanoche: that's not what I said. I said the institution of marriage is ancient, even older than our laws that regulate it. But what about homosexual marriage? What's the track record there? What the hell is that all about? These are questions you need to answer in a convincing fashion to get past the "don't know/don't care" stage for me.
[19:09:04] <PuttyWad> is money like google?
[19:09:13] <malanoche> HDthrow, you didn't?
[19:09:28] <PuttyWad> i like to change it up per the Korean Store's price changes
[19:09:35] <PuttyWad> healthy and all that
[19:09:41] <greenDeal> I hoid dat
[19:10:18] <malanoche> You sure, HDThrow?
[19:10:19] <Roanoke> Good Evening PuttyWad !
[19:10:21] <malanoche> Again, just checking...
[19:10:22] <malanoche> <artichoke> malanoche: apparently the intent is one man, one woman. <artichoke> If you're so facile that you can't understand the value of vital societal institutions and the laws that grew up around them, I can't explain it to you.
[19:10:24] <xartet> i bet artichoke buys the eurocentric fairy tail that de soto discovered the mississipi.
[19:10:30] <xartet> tale
[19:10:32] <PuttyWad> artichoke seems to have a problem with using hooks for hands and not getting a job in Secretary of Secretary
[19:10:38] -->| Olegario (~barzakh@c-76-113-195-218.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined #philosophy
[19:10:41] <Mises> [Olegario] Olegarrrrrrrrrrriooooo
[19:10:46] <PuttyWad> hope you're doing a'ight, Roanoke
[19:10:46] <artichoke> Heh.
[19:10:47] <madmin> the intent of marriage was never 'one man, one woman', not even in the bible
[19:10:52] <malanoche> SO, I ask you, in DIRECT RESPONSE to the words of yours I posted above: What is so "vital" about the concept of "one man one woman" that is worth regulating by force of law?
[19:10:59] <Olegario> on the dork side, oh yeah
[19:11:01] <greenDeal> wow, there's a monty python channel on youtube now
[19:11:03] <malanoche> Who wants to bet $500 he won't answer directly.
[19:11:08] <PuttyWad> that being sick crap makes me want to not ever say or type the word 'honeybucket'
[19:11:09] <malanoche> Cash is on the table.
[19:11:13] <madmin> the words in the bible are 'one man, one wife' (not woman) and the context of this was that rabbis should not have multiple wives
[19:11:14] =-= Mode #philosophy -t by Mises
[19:11:21] <PuttyWad> so be healthy and the world will be a better place
[19:11:21] <Vikash> i love this #
[19:11:24] <xartet> that isnt a good bet
[19:11:29] <malanoche> I know that.
[19:11:31] <xartet> dont take that bet guys
[19:11:33] <malanoche> I'm just hoping for suckers.
[19:11:37] <malanoche> It's a sure thing for me.
[19:11:41] <artichoke> malanoche: again, if you don't know why married people drew up laws to regulate the institution, then it would seem you need to get educated.
[19:11:50] <malanoche> Damn. That would have been five hunj right there.
[19:11:59] <malanoche> HDthrow, are you going to answer my question?
[19:12:03] <Roanoke> PuttyWad : Im doing okey. Im out of tobacco, but, I will kick myself in the ass and get out and go get some soon.
[19:12:08] <malanoche> It's a direct response to the words I posted above which were in direct response to me.
[19:12:12] <malanoche> That's how conversation works.
[19:12:13] <Roanoke> Im just being lazy.
[19:12:13] <artichoke> And again, if you want to tinker with it, the burden of proof is on your. Not on me.
[19:12:13] <belab001> The tech crash saw a 49.1% decline in the S&P500 from peak to trough over 31 months: March 4, 2000 (1,527.46) -> October 9, 2002 (776.76)
[19:12:14] <belab001> Now the credit crunch has already seen a 51.9% drop in just 13 months! October 9, 2007 (1,565.15) -> November 20, 2008 (752.44)
[19:12:15] <malanoche> So bail or answer.
[19:12:16] <chibi> the family guy is right. 75% of monty python skits are unwatchable
[19:12:17] <belab001> unreal
[19:12:19] <PuttyWad> i only bet on greyhounds that have cracked out black ladies sitting next to me with a fifty dollar synth and calling me 'blue steel'
[19:12:22] <birdflu> this cup of tea is a fine cup of tea.
[19:12:26] <birdflu> i think i shall marry it.
[19:12:37] <yuyuyup> watttttttttt
[19:12:39] <artichoke> malanoche: I have nothing to answer for. The person who wants "change" has to provide the proof.
[19:12:40] <Roanoke> White tea ?
[19:12:43] <malanoche> There it is. Bail.
[19:12:43] <yuyuyup> monty python is plenty great
[19:12:47] <yuyuyup> 75% my ass
[19:12:51] <greenDeal> birdflu is looking for a hubby
[19:12:52] <birdflu> no, it's morroccan mint.
[19:12:52] <malanoche> Can't even continue a simple conversation by answering a simple question derived from his own words.
[19:13:02] <Roanoke> Good stuff.
[19:13:03] <malanoche> I win. You lose. Congratulations, you're 0-for-the-year.
[19:13:11] <belab001> compared to the tech crash with 49.1% decline in 31 months.. we have lost 2.8% more than that in just 13 months
[19:13:12] <madmin> birdflu the HEARTBREAKER
[19:13:14] <greenDeal> careful guys...she'll probably go for getting knocked up...what is she? 30?
[19:13:18] <malanoche> She's over 30.
[19:13:33] <birdflu> yeah, im all used up.
[19:13:34] <chibi> TOKYO (AP) - Japan placed Health Ministry officials under heavy security after two stabbings targeted former elite bureaucrats and their wives, attacks that many are linking to public outrage over a scandal that has left millions without pensions.
[19:13:35] <belab001> i suppose this suggeests it will get worse.. the average bear interval is 15 months
[19:13:38] <artichoke> You can't take me to task for what is in your words, "the status quo." Your argument is that the status quo needs to change. In such a case, you are the one who must argue your case, not me.
[19:13:39] <malanoche> Something in this laptop is going to blow nice and pretty.
[19:13:40] <malanoche> I don't konw what.
[19:13:45] <greenDeal> definitely bio-alarmclock time
[19:13:45] <xartet> she's too busy being an independent educated world traveller/teacher to get married.
[19:13:46] <PuttyWad> i find it hard to believe that anyone under thirty is trying to have a relationship
[19:13:57] <PuttyWad> but i'm glad they do
[19:13:57] <Olegario> not enough IRC babies
[19:14:05] <belab001> vikash what do you think of this data: http://dshort.com/articles/next-bear-market-01.html
[19:14:10] <Olegario> make more. I command it.
[19:14:14] <artichoke> Olegario: send me some IRC wimminz.
[19:14:16] <PuttyWad> otherwise i'd stop getting carded when purchasing cigarettes
[19:14:19] <chibi> PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) - A 17-year-old Cambodian monk was charged with raping a British woman while taking her on a tour of a mountain cave near his Buddhist temple, a court official said Thursday.
[19:14:29] * Olegario holds forth his hand and instructs you to be fruitful and multiply
[19:14:33] <Roanoke> You still get carded ?
[19:14:38] <Roanoke> Thats pathetic.
[19:14:38] <malanoche> HDthrow, you failed to answer a simple question. Your "argument," for lack of a better word, shuddered to pieces as soon as I pursued itlike a '59 De Soto
[19:14:44] <birdflu> i'm going to steal some sperm from the sperm bank and take fertility drugs and have quadruplets
[19:14:50] <malanoche> kept on the front yard.
[19:14:50] <PuttyWad> did a few months ago, yeah
[19:14:54] <malanoche> The fuck did that sentence break for.
[19:14:58] <malanoche> on/in
[19:15:02] <birdflu> then i will have my little show ponies in all the pageants and get RICH RICH RICH!
[19:15:03] <PuttyWad> and i basically told the guy to eat shit
[19:15:14] <PuttyWad> and he gave up and then i bought them without showing ID
[19:15:25] <belab001> PuttyWad you shoulda raped him
[19:15:26] <Vikash> quadruplets are a bad idea
[19:15:35] <belab001> with a beer bottle
[19:15:35] <PuttyWad> sort of like Guatemalans do at Costco
[19:15:37] <SifuZp> with a Betamax TAPE! LONG LIVE THE NEW STUFF for fires.
[19:15:38] <greenDeal> whatever happened toJenMC and onze? they had an IRC baby, didn't they?
[19:15:43] <malanoche> HDthrow, I must say, though, I do applaud your personal growth. The last time you performed this badly supporting one of your hilarious political opinions, you threatened physical violence against me over the internet.
[19:15:51] <malanoche> Which was just loldongs as could be.
[19:15:58] <madmin> onze disappeared and jenn found him in canada six months later
[19:16:03] <madmin> he ran away
[19:16:07] <PuttyWad> what's canada?
[19:16:07] <Vikash> you know that twins have lower iq's than avg right? it's because they share resources in the womb that would normally go to one baby
[19:16:08] <madmin> like a pussy
[19:16:09] <Roanoke> GreenDeal : JennMc still in between jobs in Vermont.
[19:16:10] <greenDeal> no shit?
[19:16:14] <greenDeal> lame
[19:16:15] <madmin> yeah
[19:16:17] <malanoche> Vikash, is that your excuse?
[19:16:18] <Vikash> it must be even worse for quadruplets.
[19:16:20] <artichoke> malanoche: don't worry about that, scrot. I got your number now.
[19:16:21] <madmin> he totally ran out on them
[19:16:25] <birdflu> my babies will be able to do math before they are verbal
[19:16:27] <malanoche> Is there a long-lost Tard Twin out there?
[19:16:35] <birdflu> they will stamp out the answers to complicated math problems with their feet
[19:16:36] <belab001> yo vikash
[19:16:37] <yuyuyup> vikash that's why god made incest twins lesbian porn
[19:16:38] <birdflu> just like PONIES
[19:16:39] <belab001> did you see that table
[19:16:41] <Vikash> heh. @ #$#@% i was one of the quintuplets
[19:16:47] <imfinite> vikash i don't believe that about twins
[19:16:51] <malanoche> HDthrow, yeah, you got it alright. My fatal weakness is unsupported arguments and fellatio of the status quo.
[19:16:54] <birdflu> stomp
[19:17:02] * malanoche double thumbs up collarpop
[19:17:07] =-= PuttyWad has changed the topic to “My Little ____. You be the judge.”
[19:17:08] =-= Mode #philosophy +t by Mises
[19:17:16] <imfinite> i have twin nephews. they are both very intelligent.
[19:17:17] <malanoche> Thank god for IRC logs.
[19:17:18] <Olegario> onze was bedeviled by jennmc's old whore d0ng tricks
[19:17:18] <Vikash> imfinite: choose to disbelieve the facts, that's entirely your preogative hon
[19:17:19] <artichoke> malanoche: begging the question and failing to support your own thesis, yes.
[19:17:27] <greenDeal> did malanoche just step off the set of "Idiocracy"?
[19:17:31] <Olegario> stupid bastard never stood a chance once he got between her thighs
[19:17:34] <malanoche> I should post a web page of HDthrow's Greatest Hits.
[19:17:35] <artichoke> greendeal: ha ha!
[19:17:36] <Roanoke> Keep in mind Jenn had two other kids from other relationship. Dont be too quick to blame Onze.
[19:17:40] <malanoche> He'd probably try to sue it off the intarwebs.
[19:17:41] <Olegario> that's what happens to the naive and unexperienced
[19:17:43] <artichoke> greendeal: he's still there.
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