G-Z725

This is the home page for the men predicted or confirmed Z725 and negative for
Z725 subgroups.   Z725 was identified in 1000 Genomes Project samples in
2011 by Ray Banks and turned into an individual test by Family Tree DNA in
2012.

M201
        P287
              P15
                   L1259
                          L30
                                 L141
                                          P303
                                                  L140
                                                           L497
                                                                  CTS9737
                                                                           Z725

The above diagram shows Z725's position in the G tree.  It is the youngest of a
series of mutations, each one covering fewer persons as the tree branched.
All Z725 men have all the mutations shown above it in the tree.

A separate page exists for each of these mutations and the persons covered by them.
See tabs on left.   The G-L497, G-L140, G-P287 and G-M201 pages have significant 
additional information.  

Z725 does not have any sister subgroups under CTS9737.  It is the only subgroup. 

Z725 has two subgroups of its own defined by SNP mutations, L43 and Z726.
We have included on this page two subgroups defined by shared marker value
oddities.  When men from the subgroups have whole Y-DNA testing, this will
identify more reliable SNP mutations to define the subgroups.  Then they will
be moved to their own pages.  Currently two of these subgroups have
undetermined status for the Z726 subgroup, and this is being remedied.  It
is possible one or more will be moved down the G tree if results indicate this.
The two subgroups are DYS594=11 and DYS388=12.
Of these, the DYS594=11 subgroup is confirmed negative for Z726.

Age of Z725

With only a few samples currently confirmed as Z725+ and negative
for the subgroups, it is difficult to draw conclusions.  Hopefully whole
Y-DNA sequencing currently underway within Z725 will provide some of
the answers.   Comparing 67-marker samples of all Z725 men suggests Z725
is at least 5,000 yrs old and (using the info in the G-L497 page) less than
12,000 yrs old.

The DYS594=11 subgroup based on its 67-marker values seems to share a
common male ancestor in the period of 1500-2500 years ago.  The 
DYS388=12 subgroup seems to have such an ancestor who lived within 
the last 500 yrs.  The defining mutation may have existed earlier than the 
most recent common ancestor for each of these subgroups.

Geographical Distribution of Z725

Nothing can be concluded presently about the geographical men coverage
of men who are Z725+ but negative for its subgroups because of the small
number.  Thew few available list German and British Isles ancestry.

The DYS594=11 subgroup is one of the most interesting of G subgroups.  
It is the most Welsh of any of our subgroups, with most of the rest English.
Some of the English men have Welsh surnames.  Scotland, Denmark, Germany
and France have small representations.   From the collapse of the Roman 
Empire until the Industrial Revolution, there was little inflow of nonWelsh
men into the interior of Wales.  Some Normans did occupy southern coastal
areas.  It is not clear where our Welsh men lived in Wales for the most part.
This DYS594=11 subgroup is likely the cause of the percentage of G in 
Wales exceeding that in England a bit.   

The DYS388=13 subgroup is 100% English.  

Origins of Z725

Until more samples are available, little can be said about the origins
of this subgroup.

Z725-related Maps

A project map exists for men in the Z725 category showing origins.

Source information

Because this mutation is so new, it has not been the subject of any studies.

Special Testing

The following men in the Z725 category have the following results
for newer, poorly defined SNP mutations: 
 [men without Z726- and L43- results may belong to one of those two subgrps]
                   items in red are the Z725 subgrps   + means positive, - means negative               

L42- Bailey, Chayer
L43- Chayer, Schwartz (in Geno file), Shepherd
L78- Beckner, Desmond
L79- Harbowy
L89- Desmond
L90- Desmond
L116+ Harbowy
L139-  Beckner
L142+ Harbowy
L149+ Beckner
L154+ Desmond
L156+ Desmond
L353+ Al Wazzan
L486- Hamman
L496+ Hamman
L640- Beckner
Z724- Beckner
Z726- Bailey, Chayer, Schwartz (in Geno file)
Z1901- King

The following DYS594=11 men have the following results
for newer, poorly defined SNP mutations: 
                   items in red are the Z725 subgrps   + means positive, - means negative  

L43- Bird (in WTY)
L72- Bird
L78- Bird, Canniff
L79+ Bird
L90- Bird
L116+ Bird
L139- Bird
L142+ Bird
L154+ Bird
L156+ Bird
L183- Bird
L190+ Bird
L204+ Bird
L269+ Bird
L297- Bird
L353+ Bird
L377-  Bird
L382+ Bird
L402+ Bird
L486-  Bird
L521+ Bird
L523+ Bird
L605+ Bird
Page99- Bird
Z724- Bird
Z726-  Bird (in Geno file)
Z1901- Bird


         more info about these SNPs can be found at:
                   type L1325, for example, in the Landmark box.  After searching, look
                               for the small L1325 in the colored area and click on it.


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