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   tapping his phone. They also showed him logs taken from Melbourne

   University, which had been traced back to his phone. Electron figured

   the game was up, so he might as well tell them the whole story--or at

   least as much of it as he had told Phoenix on the phone.


   Two officers conducted the interview. The lead interviewer was

   Detective Constable Glenn Proebstl, which seemed to be pronounced

   `probe stool'--an unfortunate name, Electron thought. Proebstl was

   accompanied by Constable Natasha Elliott, who occasionally added a few

   questions at the end of various interview topics but otherwise kept to

   herself. Although he had decided to answer their questions truthfully,

   Electron thought that neither of them knew much about computers and

   found himself struggling to understand what they were trying to ask.


   Electron had to begin with the basics. He explained what the FINGER

   command was--how you could type `finger' followed by a username, and

   then the computer would provide basic information about the user's

   name and other details.


   `So, what is the methodology behind it ... finger ... then, it's

   normally ... what is the normal command after that to try and get the

   password out?' Constable Elliott finally completed her convoluted

   attempt at a question.


   The only problem was that Electron had no idea what she was talking



   `Well, um, I mean there is none. I mean you don't use finger like that



   `Right. OK,' Constable Elliott got down to business. `Well, have you

   ever used that system before?'


   `Uhm, which system?' Electron had been explaining commands for so long

   he had forgotten if they were still talking about how he hacked the

   Lawrence Livermore computer or some other site.


   `The finger ... The finger system?'


   Huh? Electron wasn't quite sure how to answer that question. There was

   no such thing. Finger was a command, not a computer.


   `Uh, yes,' he said.


   The interview went the same way, jolting awkwardly through computer

   technology which he understood far better than either officer.

   Finally, at the end of a long day, Detective Constable Proebstl asked



   `In your own words, tell me what fascination you find with accessing

   computers overseas?'


   `Well, basically, it's not for any kind of personal gain or anything,'

   Electron said slowly. It was a surprisingly difficult question to

   answer. Not because he didn't know the answer, but because it was a

   difficult answer to describe to someone who had never hacked a

   computer. `It's just the kick of getting in to a system. I mean, once

   you are in, you very often get bored and even though you can still

   access the system, you may never call back.