DE in providing medical education to non traditional students

To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. 

-Ralph Waldo Emerson



Introduction and Concepts in Distance learning

What is distance learning

Explanation of Various Terms.

Glossary of Web Based learning


Practical self experience with Distance Learning?

Difference between Distance Education and Correspondence Courses

 Can skill oriented courses be covered by DE?

Technologies used in distant education

Instructional Qualities for Web Based Learning

Challenges of Web-based Learning

DE in providing medical education to non traditional students

Teacher and student qualities for distance education

Assignment - Preparation of Distance Learning Module

Evaluation of Distance Learning

Advantages and Disadvantages of e-Learning

Famous quotes

Discussion end- Compliments from Sir & Friends

Summary - Distance Learning


DE in providing medical education to non traditional students?

I just read this interesting article on Use of distance learning to provide medical education to non-traditional students.
Training our nursing staff and technical staff in the advances in their area is a potential area where this can be used. When I was in London, I found everyone furiously glued to their computers each day-- doing online courses on loads of things- right from fire training, waste disposal, how to talk to patients, how to deliver bad news, how to identfy child abuse. It was compulsary and counted in their promotions. But the overdrive resulted in most of them treating these courses as "tick box sessions"- that's what they were sarcastically referred to.
Some other thoughts. DE is an extremely viable solution to provide continuing medical education to doctors who have qualified ages ago. When MCI makes renewal of degrees compulsory, I feel we ought to have CPD points for completing online courses in our subjects. And I am praying hard that the job of designing these modules comes to us--- the FAIMER fellows. That should be fun!
When you say "tick box sessions" do you mean MCQs or the survey which is taken at the end of courses?
  In India, the misconception about DE courses is that these are those courses which a person takes up when he doesn't get admission in full time classroom courses or just as add on to their degrees/ diplomas.
   How to remove such misconceptions?
I think the format of these courses was subject content followed by a series of questions- mostly MCQs. They got a certificate of completion if they scored adequately. The score (high/ higher) after the pass mark did not matter. They just had to complete certain modules before they were even considered for promotion or getting the next increment. And the topics were not exactly pleasing (or seemed relevant) to the users. So the evident irritation. No one wanted to give tests on which kind of fire bell ringing means you have to evacuate the building, which fire alarm means the cause of smoke is being investigated etc.

Bharti U
I think DE for health allied courses is already existing in INDIA. The modules of them are very extensive and good but how far they are able to impart knowledge is a big question to be
We have courses for Technicians,12th passed students and so
on ,but I always wonder that for such courses without hands on practical training the effort is only tick box session
Just In Time Education: a new paradigm?

Dr. Sanjay Bedi
A new paradigm called Just In Time Education which become possible in 21st Century with the use of Web based Education. I remember during SARS out break I was secretary  Computerisation of Indian Medical Association Punjab State Branch and we emailed presentation on SARS to
IMA members with full  Xrays picture and other education materials very quickly .
Just in Time is a concept from Business in Supply Chain Management where raw materials are delivered Just in Time to Cut down downtime costs of materials.This concept is coming in Education also with the learner learn Just in time what he needs to solve a problem rather than pre conceived course materials with lot of flexibility.
Sending a link and an article on the topic.

Dr. Sanjay Bedi
1 attachment(s)Article.doc(39.4 KB)

Here is an article from BMJ regarding developing skills in students for utilising web based learning effectively.It enumerates qualities, scholistic and nonscholastic, required to integrate web based learning with our conventional learning. 

: Website watch

Dr. Sanjay Bedi
 Pharmacology Department ,Medical College ,Amritsar is an inspiration
Please see
-- Can we all join hands in providing these for all the subjects.

Syed Ziaur Rahman
Being a pharmacologist, I tried to scan each and every link of the website. Its a good attempt by the postgraduate students of the Department of Pharmacology, Government Medical College, Amritsar, Punjab. Thanks for sending such informative links.

Chetna Desai
 Nice site ...have a look at this too...has been developed by self ...suggestions for improvement ar welcome..we try to upgrade it every month..or two

Dr. S. Ziaur Rahman
Few months back, when I happened to see the website of your department, it was in the early phase. Now, the website has full of information including few clippings of the conferences held either at your department or in Ahmedabad in general on pharmacology. All links in the website are working with relevant information. Good to see that so many projects are being in operation in your department. I hope these are not PG thesis topics. It’s new information for me that in the course of MLT, pharmacology is also being taught as one of the subjects. In our institute, anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, pathology and microbiology are taught and not pharmacology. This may be because of curriculum designed by the Department of Medical Education and Research, Health and Family Welfare Department, Government of Gujarat. If you update the website every month then you can also provide information regarding PG’s exercises like journal club, seminar, therapeutic club, thesis and research presentation, etc.
Thanks for updating with your departmental activities through website. I hope NPPV is also being operated successfully.
Very well organized website. Downloads part is very interesting.
Dr. Sanjay Bedi
 These are standards by which various E learning initiatives can share data . Standards are certain protocols by which various Computer software can share resources ,inputs etc. directly.
Sharable Content Object Reference Model (SCORM) is a collection of standards and specifications for web-based e-learning.. It defines communications between client side content and a host system called the run-time environment (commonly a function of a learning management system). SCORM also defines how content may be packaged into a transferable ZIP file.
SCORM is a specification of the Advanced Distributed Learning (ADL) Initiative, which comes out of the Office of the United States Secretary of Defense.
SCORM 2004 introduces a complex idea called sequencing, which is a set of rules that specify the order in which a learner may experience content objects. The standard uses XML, and it is based on the results of work done by AICC (CBT), IMS Global Learning Consortium, [, [1] IEEE, and Ariadne

Shareable Content Object Reference Model 
 - Shareable Content Object Reference Model (SCORM) is an XML-based framework used to define and access information about learning objects so they can be easily shared among different learning management systems ( LMSs). SCORM was developed in response to a United States Department of Defense (DoD) initiative to promote standardization in e-learning 
The SCORM specifications, which are distributed through the Advanced Distributed Learning (ADL) Initiative Network, define an XML-based means of representing course structures, an application programming interface (  API), a content-to-LMS data model, a content launch specification, and a specification for metadata records for all components of a system. The ADL specification group's next challenge is to motivate vendors to comply with SCORM specifications.

 Actually throughout the discussion you have shared lot of information for which we are thankful to you.
A nice video on modern students?

Dr. Sanjay Bedi

 Just like everyone else on the listserve, I sincerely wish to thank you for the valuable inputs in this month's discussion.
 I thoroughly enjoyed this video too
Really a nice one. Who is at fault? The system or the students?